What do Protestant really believe about the Catholic Church?

[steve-b]

They do not call themselves Protestant. I have never met anyone in real life who does, in Australia.

How is it you aren’t picking up on their belief system just because they don’t "say" they are Protestant.?

According to Austrailian statistics, 2016 Census: Religion

Protestants

|Anglican – 13.3%
|Uniting Church – 3.7%|
|Christian, (Not further defined)– 2.6%
|Presbyterian and Reformed – 2.8%|
|Baptist – 1.5%|
|Pentecostal – 1.1%|
Lutheran – 1.2%|
|Other Protestant – 0.5%||

Hillsong is one of the Protestant communities in the (other) category

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Where did you get that heading Protestants from, its certainly not in that Census round up you just quoted.

you are gravely misrepresenting that census data. And should be quite ashamed you added a heading there in an attempt to prove a point.

What you have done is demonstrated what I said. Australians do not say I am a Protestant, they list their religion by name. i.e. Anglican, Uniting, Baptist, Pentecostal.
thanks for proving my point, i have never met a real life protestant.

And where are you getting that anyone who filled out their religion, and attends Hillsong, decided just to put other (protestant) in. Hillsong identifies as something else.

 

[steve-b]

Where did you get that heading Protestants from, its certainly not in that Census round up you just quoted.

you are gravely misrepresenting that census data. And should be quite ashamed you added a heading there in an attempt to prove a point.

What you have done is demonstrated what I said. Australians do not say I am a Protestant, they list their religion by name. i.e. Anglican, Uniting, Baptist, Pentecostal.
thanks for proving my point, i have never met a real life protestant.

And where are you getting that anyone who filled out their religion, and attends Hillsong, decided just to put other (protestant) in. Hillsong identifies as something else.

Do you not know that those groups listed are Protestant?

 

[Roseeurekacross]

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@...0~2016~Main Features~Religion Data Summary~70

nope not on this page either.

There is no heading that says Protestant., so you are in error. You are falsifying a table of results to suit yourself. Get back to my point. I have never met anyone who calls themselves Protestant.

Someone who listed Anglican as their religion Considers themselves Anglican, for example.
I feel you are missing a few basic understandings here of how people identify their religion. In my Country.

I have no idea what they do in yours, but do not assume its the same here.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

Q: Could I ask, your church is Catholic but your spiritual leader is not Catholic? What religion is your leader?

You have not read my post correctly either, I was not discussing my spiritual leader either. I was and missed a comma I fear, discussing my Prime Minister is deeply spiritual and is the leader of our country.

 

[Carmelite1983]

I’m curious how they explain Eucharistic Miracles, or other miracles like incorruptible saints, stigmatic saints, Marian Apparitions, etc.

 

[Augustinian]

I have never met a real life person who says they are Protestant.

The term “Protestant” only describes their relationship with Catholicism.

If they aren’t interested or the Catholic Church’s views or presence, the term “Protestant” is really obsolete. Protestants are “protesters” against Catholicism, that’s what the term means. If they are cooperating with, or ignoring Catholicism, the term in an anachronism.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

These people who practice who class them selves as
Anglican for example, are not protesting against Catholicism. They have better things to do, go to Church, live their lives. Here at least.

 

[steve-b]

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@...0~2016~Main Features~Religion Data Summary~70

nope not on this page either.

There is no heading that says Protestant., so you are in error. You are falsifying a table of results to suit yourself. Get back to my point. I have never met anyone who calls themselves Protestant.

Someone who listed Anglican as their religion Considers themselves Anglican, for example.
I feel you are missing a few basic understandings here of how people identify their religion. In my Country.

? I guess so.

Roseeurekacross:

I have no idea what they do in yours, but do not assume its the same here.

interesting

 

[Roseeurekacross]

interesting

Glad we got that sorted out, and I award you 10/10 for your creative use of the bold feature and the underline feature and the font size feature.

Well done! It was an interesting use of the edit box

 

[steve-b]

These people who practice who class them selves as
Anglican for example, are not protesting against Catholicism. They have better things to do, go to Church, live their lives. Here at least.

A famous Anglican who converted to Catholicism, and who was a prolific writer, had the following to say in his journey into the Catholic Church.

Lecture 12, Ecclesiastical history, Section 4 http://www.newmanreader.org/works/anglicans/volume1/lecture12.html

Such, then, is the Anglican Church and its Via Media, {377} and such the practical application of it; it is an interposition or arbitration between the extreme doctrines of Protestantism on the one hand, and the faith of Rome which Protestantism contradicts on the other. At the same time, though it may be unwilling to allow it, it is, from the nature of the case, but a particular form of Protestantism…

 

[PickyPicky]

Of course Newman wasn’t altogether Australian.

 

[GKMotley]

I think Catholics, in communion with Rome, get to call Anglicans protestants.

Anglicans, who so decide. get to call themselves Catholics. In the Anglican tradition, of course.

 

[PickyPicky]

And of course the Church of England has been known to call itself Protestant: “the true Profession of the Gospel and the Protestant Reformed Religion Established by Law”.

 

[GKMotley]

No way to stop them. Lord knows we Anglican Catholics have tried. And reformed.

Mercy.

 

[steve-b]

Of course Newman wasn’t altogether Australian.

GKMotley:

I think Catholics, in communion with Rome, get to call Anglicans protestants.
Anglicans, who so decide. get to call themselves Catholics. In the Anglican tradition, of course.

Eastern Catholic Bishop emeritus Bishop John in answering a particular question in a Q&A session, about truth, wrote "If something is true, it would be absurd to say “Oh, we don’t believe that in the East. All too frequently, such “dialogue” seems to presuppose a relativism where you speak “your truth” and I’ll speak “my truth” and we’ll just leave it at that. A sort of ecumenical schizophrenia”… From

The context he gives can obviously be used in multiple cases / ways, but truth is truth and won’t change. Relativism is a HUGE error infecting societies these days

 

[GKMotley]

It’s true that Catholics, of the RC stripe, don’t account Anglicans Catholics at all. Don’t account their orders valid, either. And, to any faithful RC, these are truths.

 

[JonNC]

Roseeurekacross:

I have never met a real life person who says they are Protestant.

The term “Protestant” only describes their relationship with Catholicism.

If they aren’t interested or the Catholic Church’s views or presence, the term “Protestant” is really obsolete. Protestants are “protesters” against Catholicism, that’s what the term means. If they are cooperating with, or ignoring Catholicism, the term in an anachronism.

That’s not what the term means. The formal protest was against the civil authorities, not the Catholic Church, at the Second Diet of Speyer in 1529. It wasn’t a protest about doctrine, but a protest against the limiting of religious exercise, much like the protest Catholics participated in against the HHS Mandate.

 

[steve-b]

It’s true that Catholics, of the RC stripe, don’t account Anglicans Catholics at all. Don’t account their orders valid, either. And, to any faithful RC, these are truths.

For clarification,

Re: the qualifier “Roman” , Catholics are familiar with that qualifying argument, when coming from a particular non Catholic stripe.

Faithful Catholics are those who are in complete union with the chair of Peter AND also union with all those in union with the chair of Peter.

 

[steve-b]

Augustinian:

Roseeurekacross:

I have never met a real life person who says they are Protestant.

The term “Protestant” only describes their relationship with Catholicism.

If they aren’t interested or the Catholic Church’s views or presence, the term “Protestant” is really obsolete. Protestants are “protesters” against Catholicism, that’s what the term means. If they are cooperating with, or ignoring Catholicism, the term in an anachronism.

That’s not what the term means. The formal protest was against the civil authorities, not the Catholic Church, at the Second Diet of Speyer in 1529. It wasn’t a protest about doctrine, but a protest against the limiting of religious exercise, much like the protest Catholics participated in against the HHS Mandate.

Jon

We probably have gone over this in the past. Luther was the Father of a revolt.

Luther’s errors were listed HERE
Why Luther was excommunicted HERE