What do we learn from God's repeated failures?

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Consider the falls of Satan, Eve/Adam, Noah’s contemporaries, Moses, David, so many others in biblical record, and most significantly, the Christ. While these (save the last) may have been creatures, they represent an acknowledged history of God failing.

Jesus told his Hebrew followers that he came to the house of Israel. Yet he failed, as God in flesh on Earth, to lead that house, having just less than a thousand or so follow him and only a handful come to know the Truth. He may have blessed a few gentiles, but that was not His stated mission. Even awesome works/signs wrought by the Holy Spirit did not bring Israelites (in the main) to recognize having experienced God having been their human contemporary. One Jew, Saul of Tarsus, reframed the gospel message “disciples of all nations” and became Paul, apostle to the gentiles. The argument in council occurred, one supposes, because Jesus failed to make that univeral outreach clear?

So what does the repeated failure of God, omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, to accomplish His [stated or implied] purpose tell us? It’s been millenia and we still see the bulk of our world unwilling to accept God for Who He is. What are we to learn from this history of christian theology?

I ask, for I believe. This is a challenge to my reasoning, not to my faith. Philosophy (“search for truth”) fears no question; faith (“realization of what is hoped for and evidence of things not seen”) fears no truth.
 
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Did God fail at mind control? Sure, let’s call it that.
But…

Did He ever claim to set out to control our minds?
 
What @Irishmom2 said.

If in researching history all you see are God’s “failures”, you are not realizing those failures aren’t because of God, its because man tries to do what they want and not listen to God.
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Jesus told his Hebrew followers that he came to the house of Israel. Yet he failed, as God in flesh on Earth, to lead that house, having just less than a thousand or so follow him and only a handful come to know the Truth.
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Jesus was not a failure at all. Not even close. He did the most amazing thing ever known to man over 2000 years ago and we’re still talking about it today. 🙂

While Jesus walk the earth the men who became His followers are the men who continue to bring us to Jesus. They continue to teach what He taught. Preach what He preached. Follow where His path… how is that a failure.

We follow God because of Jesus coming to earth to teach us about His Father. He accomplished exactly what He set out to do, for us, for man despite how many times we show God we are the failures. God never gave up on us.

Why do you think any of the people you listed are failures, then really look at exactly how they failed. Was it God or was it man who failed?
 
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This is a challenge to my reasoning, not to my faith.
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Read the Scriptures.
The Bible is a lesson in love, and God’s Divine Plan works with man’s free will. What some see as failure, in reality it is God’s wisdom. For example, in 1 Cor. 1 we read:

For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”
Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe.
For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
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But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, so that no human being might boast in the presence of God. And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”
 
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How was the fall of Satan a win?
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You don’t seem to speak as a Christian - who fully understands Free Will

God and Jesus aren’t about winning or losing

Jesus isn’t measured by the percentage of Jews who rejected Him

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Matthew (Chapts 10 & 15) make it pretty clear that Jesus was reaching out to the remnant of Israel. That effort clearly failed (at least, at that time). I accept on faith [catechism 574] that mission is incomplete.
 
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Matthew (Chapts 10 & 15) make it pretty clear that Jesus was reaching out to the remnant of Israel. That effort clearly failed (at least, at that time). I accept on faith [ccc574] that mission is incomplete.
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The Failure are those Jews who rejected Jesus
 
Since God doesn’t fail, your question is moot. How is it within an omnipotent being’s power to “fail”?
 
The basis of my question is that God’s failing to achieve His apparent (or stated) intent has a purpose. He does that to teach us something. What are we to learn? The replies seen this far (albeit so soon) are challenging my perception of God’s having failed. If that word is too strong, try another. What does it mean for us that scripture shows God’s will repeatedly frustrated? It’s most evident that God has not accomplished what He wants – unless we misunderstand what He really wants. What is it we are to learn from this ?
 
You cannot blame the responses on words that you chose though. People responded to what you said, not what you may have intended to say. The word is not too strong, maybe you chose the wrong word. So it is up to you to choose a different one, not us.
 
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What is it we are to learn from this ?
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That our human perspective is limited (cf. book of Job), that free will is real, and that existence necessarily involves imperfection. On the latter point, “metaphysical evil”, we can consider that since God is perfect, everything that is not-God is imperfect and in some way a “failure” if we see that simply as a lack of total good. In some sense by choosing to create anything, God chose to “fail” or to accept evil.

This is again another way to restate the problem of evil, and that because creation necessarily involves evil — or God’s failure — we accept that some good is brought out of it, including our own existence. We recognize this most intimately in the Passion and Crucifixion. In the Way of the Cross, we also consider how Jesus “chose” to “fail” by falling three times while carrying the Cross, a show of compassion for us, solidarity in our own suffering and failures, and a demonstration of His full humanity.

This is a deep and profound question, and would make a great area of research for a thesis if you ever pursued theology academically.

[Don’t be discouraged by the knee-jerk CAF responses. 🙂 This is a popular apologetics website that gets a lot of “trolls” so suspicions are often raised at least initially.]
 
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How can God fail when he is simply pure of any sin ?

Make no sense to say he has failed in my own opinion.
 
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So what does the repeated failure of God, omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, to accomplish His [stated or implied] purpose tell us? It’s been millenia and we still see the bulk of our world unwilling to accept God for Who He is. What are we to learn from this history of christian theology?
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God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent; this does not permit Him to do the logically impossible - something logically impossible is simply nonsense.He cannot force us to choose Him. God does not fail for God has providentially ordered events to bring about the salvation of the maximum possible number of people freely. He has succeeded in His aim to bring about the salvation of the maximum number of people in co-operation with their wills.
 
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