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I don’t admire anything about other denominations or religions. Nor do I admire their religious traditions or disciplines.
The fervent evangelical faith of the Apostles is what got most of them killed. It is not something you can borrow. Maybe, just maybe, they are not so off base and in error.Recently Billy Graham’s son went to Berkeley to hold a rally of some sort or another. I don’t really respond well to evangelicals for the most part but I saw a little bit of the rally - Graham speaking, protestors, and I thought to myself how much courage that would take. You look at these Supreme Court cases, bakers, florists, Hobby Lobby, and you always have to add this footnote, they are evangelical. (let’s not forget the Sisters of the Poor…) There is a fearlessness, a commitment, that I think is really Biblical about this sort of thing; it is not natural to many Catholics (except maybe prolife activism) but Protestants do seem to channel it much more often and naturally. (also in the prolife movement) I like it. I aspire to borrow it. I believe it may well get them a number of points on high, in spite of being off base and in error about so much else in the faith. They are out on the front line, no problem.
I never said they weren’t. All the more reason to ask why it does not seem natural for Catholics today to have and proclaim evangelical faith.The apostles were Catholic.
You seem to be equating knowledge with memory. What good is memorization of Scripture if you are getting it wrong. Do you think protestants just picked up the Bible and came to their belief just like that? Of course not. Someone told them what particular verses meant. Actually Catholics have much more knowledge of Scripture because we don’t rely on our personal interpretation but on the Church that Jesus founded.I have a lot of respect for Evangelicals’ devotion to and knowledge of the Scriptures. This isn’t to say that I believe Sola Scriptura is sound theology, but I think we Catholics could stand to read it more, commit more of it to memory, and defer to it more in our day to day lives. Honestly if I needed to look up a passage but didn’t have recourse to the internet and had a random Catholic and a random Evangelical with me, I’d probably ask the Evangelical and take her at her word.
When you are talking about protestant lay people, I don’t think that denomination means a lot in regards to individual beliefs. A lot of cross-pollination between the different groups, and I don’t think its really due to change in beliefs. Sen. McCain and President G.W Bush both were baptized as Episcopalians and ended up as a Baptist and a Methodist.I don’t know what Lutherans or Methodists believe, eg. You can ask when the subject comes up about someone being a Lutheran, and what they believe.
Thank you for clarifying . I think sometimes when we try to paint a picture, the human tendency is to use too wide a brush that causes distortment in the details that define the truth of the scene.I meant no disrespect. But I don’t agree with a lot of what Calvinist Evangelicals teach in terms of doctrine, the rejection of the Real Presence, the sacraments. I don’t think they fully understand the history and truth of the Church, by which I mean the original Church of Christ and the Apostles. And I question how much of the faith they live beyond just being ‘saved.’ My point was I admire the fervency of their faith and their commitment as Christians. And, in fact, I don’t need to borrow it; I have it. I do consider it a little “Protestant” though. The post was supposed to be a compliment.