What do you all think of Joyce Meyer?

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I watched her show a couple times. I enjoyed it and found that some of what she said made sense to me.

However I found it odd that she is a divorced and remarried woman. We all know what the Bible says about that.

What do you think of her? Is she like Benny Hinn without the miracles, the stereotypical televangelist? Or is she the real deal?
 
I grew up in the methodist church, and even attended a southern baptist “mega church” for a couple of years in early high school with my family – but those mega churches and televangelists really rub me the wrong way.🤷

Joyce Meyer included.
 
Joyce Meyer is a very inspirational motivational speaker, but I also think she is a dangerous heretic. She espouses the prosperity gospel (God wants you to be rich, and the more faith you have the richer you’ll get), Name It Claim It, Word of Faith, and the Evangelical Charismatic movement. These are all dangerous heresies that damage the faith of the unsuspecting.

The Word of Faith in particular has an anti-Christian view of Christ, almost Manichaeism. It teaches that Satan is almost an equal to Christ, that Satan cons God on “legalities”, and that Christ literally went to hell where Satan ruled over him for three days (those three days between Good Friday and the Resurrection.

Here’s what Fr. Barron has to say about the Prosperity Gospel, and he mentions Joyce Meyer by name:
sanctepater.com/2010/05/dangers-of-prosperity-gospel.html
 
mommyjo2 said:
Joyce Meyer is a very inspirational motivational speaker, but I also think she is a dangerous heretic. She espouses the prosperity gospel (God wants you to be rich, and the more faith you have the richer you’ll get), Name It Claim It, Word of Faith, and the Evangelical Charismatic movement. These are all dangerous heresies that damage the faith of the unsuspecting.
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Ironic that it’s usually those sorts of Evangelicals who complain that the Catholic Church is rich.

Even more ironic, in reality it’s strapped for cash because all of its income has to go to fund important causes; and nobody joins the priesthood to make money.
 
I’ve listened to her a couple of times (out of boredom) and found her to be an inspirational and motivational speaker – except there is no real content in her presentations, in my opinion.

Certainly not my cup of tea…
 
I find her similar to Joel Osteen as she preaches all “feel good” theology.
 
Back in my reversion process to the Church, I watched quite a bit of Joyce. She’s an interesting female personality, and I enjoyed her strong opinions.

I enjoyed her “Stinkin’ Thinking’” talks and she also talked about giving God our trash and He would return it as treasure.

Her ministry is targeted at new Christians and at keeping her loyal members. I’ve never heard her talk about contraception, abortion, remarriage after divorce, homosexuality, etc.
 
I don’t care for Meyer. I have a prejudice that I don’t like her Southern accent. Nothing personal, I just don’t like it. When I first found her on TV, I may have listened for 30 seconds.

I don’t like how she overdresses.

And, the few things I heard her say were sort of smart-alec comments. She seemed to have a delayed smile that was hanging back, waiting for audience effects.

This is all very irrational, but that’s how I feel.

It’s kind of the same with Joel Osteen. I don’t think I can understand anything he says. I feel that I missed the introduction and can’t locate what he’s talking about.

I listen to Protestant televangelists probably next to zero, never did much to begin with. They all seem to have devoted followings, which I cannot explain. Well, I did listen to Billy Graham once in a while. He wanted to appeal to everybody. He didn’t hit any denominational buttons too much, that I recall.
 
Yes bkayw that is the problem! Many of the megachurch preachers do not talk about sin :rolleyes:
 
** She is part of the RHEMA (prosperity gospel) set.RHEMA was started by Kenneth Hagin and his followers include Kenneth Jr, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar (not his real name, he changed it to promote prosperity), Paul and Jan Crouch of TBN fame etc. **
** She may be a fine person but, her voice grinds at me.**
 
I’m sorry if this sounds mean - but the “prosperity gospel”, as one poster explained – sounds evil.

makes me shudder. stuff like that makes me RUN not walk – away from a particular church.
 
I usually enjoy listening to Joyce Meyer, though I won’t go out of my way to do so. Yes, she is WoF, and I do consider that at least partially heretical, but unlike many WoF preachers, she doesn’t pound on the WoF distinctives. Instead she talks about common sense stuff and scriptural application most of the time. It’s not all good stuff, but a lot of it is. I rate her very worthwhile though flawed.

Full disclosure: I am myself a charismatic evangelical, though not of WoF stripe. :cool:
 
Izdaari said:
I usually enjoy listening to Joyce Meyer, though I won’t go out of my way to do so. Yes, she is WoF, and I do consider that at least partially heretical, but unlike many WoF preachers, she doesn’t pound on the WoF distinctives. Instead she talks about common sense stuff and scriptural application most of the time. It’s not all good stuff, but a lot of it is. I rate her very worthwhile though flawed.

Full disclosure: I am myself a charismatic evangelical, though not of WoF stripe. :cool:
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Could you expand a bit on what you consider to be her flaws?
 
I’d rather listen to Charles Stanley, if I’m going to listen to a leader from another denomination.
 
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mommyjo2:
Name It Claim It, Word of Faith, and the Evangelical Charismatic movement. These are all dangerous heresies that damage the faith of the unsuspecting.
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I’m as aggressive a cessationist as you’ll find and even I can’t imagine how a belief in the perpetuity of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is “heresy”.
 
JesuXPIPassio said:
What do you think of her? Is she like Benny Hinn without the miracles, the stereotypical televangelist? Or is she the real deal?
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Unfortunately she’s just as bad as all the other TBN crowd, most notably in that she teaches the Prosperity Gospel (ie., wealth is a sign of God’s pleasure in you). She’s also said some rather harsh things about some biblical characters, which just turned me off. I recall one time her saying something like: “Peter’s so stupid! I look at him and think anyone can get saved.” I thought to myself, “Wow, way to dis one of the top apostles, lady. God probably saved more souls through Peter at Pentecost than you’ve ever done in your lifetime.” :rolleyes:

Most frightening are some of the darker teachings that most people aren’t aware of. The top of this was her teaching that our salvation was found not in Christ’s death on the cross but in His supposed torture by demons in hell. Don’t believe me? Enjoy.
 
Byzantine_Wolf said:
Unfortunately she’s just as bad as all the other TBN crowd, most notably in that she teaches the Prosperity Gospel (ie., wealth is a sign of God’s pleasure in you). She’s also said some rather harsh things about some biblical characters, which just turned me off. I recall one time her saying something like: “Peter’s so stupid! I look at him and think anyone can get saved.” I thought to myself, “Wow, way to dis one of the top apostles, lady. God probably saved more souls through Peter at Pentecost than you’ve ever done in your lifetime.” :rolleyes:

Most frightening are some of the darker teachings that most people aren’t aware of. The top of this was her teaching that our salvation was found not in Christ’s death on the cross but in His supposed torture by demons in hell. Don’t believe me? Enjoy.
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She actually believes Jesus went to hell? Wow. That’s just irresponsible translating.
 
JesuXPIPassio said:
She actually believes Jesus went to hell? Wow. That’s just irresponsible translating.
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Basically, after Jesus died on the cross He went to hell where demons tortured Him for three days, then on the resurrection Christ arose and came out victorious.

If you listen to the clip I linked to, the guy plays a sound byte where Joyce Meyer moves the comma in Christ’s words to the wise thief on the cross (“I say unto you today, you will be with me in paradise”). You know, like the Jehovah’s Witnesses do. :eek:
 
I do like Charles Stanley, in fact I wish his “down home psychology” would rub off onto Catholic priests.

He repeats sentence structures like a scratched 45, but he’s got great messages on how to overcome the temptation to sin.

Holiness is within everyone’s grasp.

Both Stanley and Meyers overcame abuse that they suffered as children. Stanley was forced to watch his stepdad physically abuse his mother, and Meyers was sexually abused by her Dad for most if not all of her teen years (and her Mom knew that she was being sexually abused).

For that alone, both of these people are admirable in my eyes.
 
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