What do you call it when they have the year of birth of a saint

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…followed by like 60 years after the 1st Crusade, 1, 000 years after the death of Christ, 4000 years after God spoke to Abraham and 6000 years after Adam and Eve’s fall (or was it the creation of Earth?–if that, is it a good argument in favor of creationism?). I know I’ve seen this kind of thing before. I thought it was called the Roman Martyrology, but no websites with this have appeared with this info. under those keywords. What is it I’m trying to remember?

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Phil
 
Could you possible be referring to the chanting of the Christmas proclamation. It is called ***The Liturgical Proclamation of Jesus’ Birth. *** The time frames listed in each of the many listed are taken strictly from time as interpreted in the scriptures, from modern translations. If one goes to the original Hebrew our modern translations give the meaning of “YOM” as “a day”. While this is one of the variant translations, it does not give additional translations of the same word, "YOM"Additional meanings include eons, and also the same word is used for “an undetermined amount of time.” I admit, I do not know Hebrew. This is what my scripture professor taught us when I was in the seminary years ago. That said, you can understand the controversies with fundamentalist and literalist that can arise, depending on what translation they use, and the education level of their teachers. The Liturgical Proclamation is normally chanted as an introduction to Midnight Mass at Christmas, done while the celebrant is processing in with the figure of the Christ child, to place it in the manger.
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No, I’m thinking of the years before a saint’s birth or death (I can’t remember which, that passed since certain Biblical events happened.
I thought it was called the Roman martyrology, but possibly, it could be an extension of each saint’s day, because our Latin Mass bulletin, under “Roman Martyrology”, just has what saints are remembered on certain weekdays and some weekend days, maybe.

Thanks though!
Phil
 
Maybe you’re thinking of the Proclamation of the Lord’s Birth, taken from the Roman Martyrology and sometimes chanted before Midnight Mass on Christmas…
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* The twenty-fifth day of December.
* In the five thousand one hundred and ninety-ninth year of the creation of the world
  from the time when God in the beginning created the heavens and the earth;
* the two thousand nine hundred and fifty-seventh year after the flood;
* the two thousand and fifteenth year from the birth of Abraham;
* the one thousand five hundred and tenth year from Moses
  and the going forth of the people of Israel from Egypt;
* the one thousand and thirty-second year from David's being anointed king;
* in the sixty-fifth week according to the prophecy of Daniel;
* in the one hundred and ninety-fourth Olympiad;
* the seven hundred and fifty-second year from the foundation of the city of Rome;
* the forty second year of the reign of Octavian Augustus;
* the whole world being at peace,
* in the sixth age of the world,
* Jesus Christ the eternal God and Son of the eternal Father,
  desiring to sanctify the world by his most merciful coming,
  being conceived by the Holy Spirit,
  and nine months having passed since his conception,
* was born in Bethlehem of Judea of the Virgin Mary,
  being made flesh.
* The Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ according to the flesh.
 
foolishmortal said:
6000 years after Adam and Eve’s fall (or was it the creation of Earth?–if that, is it a good argument in favor of creationism?).
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No; it must be interpreted as at least five-thousand one-hundred and ninety-nine from the creation of the world. Otherwise there is a big problem between the old form…

the one thousand five hundred and tenth year from Moses
and the going forth of the people of Israel from Egypt;

and the new form…

thirteen centuries after Moses led the people of Israel out of Egypt.

I have often thought the recent trend of placing so much trust in the science of history, when the conclusions are at best guesses, is a mistake. There is no historical proof that Ramses was the Pharaoh of the Exodus --and many good historical reasons for believing he was not-- that to change the number of centuries in the Proclamation seems rash. Hence, we must interpret these centuries as at least.
 
Just a suggestion. Do not take the time frames given, especially from Creation, the flood, etc. as literal. Remember, the bible teaches us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. (ik ik ik ik)
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Hmmm Maybe it was just about Jesus. In any case, I believe historical things did happen in the Bible. Maybe the question about which Mary was the prostitute question was out of it because of what the last poster said. After all, there was that Epic of Gilgamesh involving a massive flood, which could have been that flood. Maybe the writer died after writing about it. I would not question its literalism unless a church doctrine officially interprets a Bible story as not being literal about something. That’s why the Church is the true Church and why the others become so inconsistent. Ours has the authority to interpret it and judge personal revelations for what they are or aren’t.
 
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