What do you do if someone lies about being sorry for hurting people, and continues to do it

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I am speaking about a person who is deceptive, and cruel, they go out of their way to hurt other people…they say they are sorry, but continue to lie and scheme and attack people with their mouth, and twist things to make them seem like a victim

I am talking about a troll…if someone does this and asks for forgiveness ,but continues their behavior how do you handle them?

They have been caught in the act, and think its funny… It might seem like nothing but for those on the net that are trying to find a meeting of minds, they can do great damage to others

I know we must forgive, but must we be a victim,Is it Christian to ignore them?
 
:gopray2: Pray for them. Pray, and if possible that you don’t have to be around them don’t. Just continue to pray for God to come boldly in to thier lives. (for at least 14 days) May Christ Be with You
 
Stinky, its a little more involved that I posted. A friend of mine is a non denominational minsiter…She has been watching them, and says she feels that there is an aura of evil about them,that goes beyond fooling around

They pretend to be very religious, but use scripture like a club to wound people…The minister says she thinks they are purposefully perverting the word of God…They know scripture and can rattle of off like crazy, but not with a spirit of love

It is more like a spirit of hate, like they are deliberately trying to turn people away from learning about God…they change nics frequently always to attack someone in the cruelest possible way

There is a lady who feels that she will never see a happy ever after. Her boyfriend is dying, and this cruel person told her she would never she her loved ones again, but told her that she who was a Christian would, and was gleeful, and evil about it
 
I am sorry for this whole thing, so I will pray
St.Michael the Arch-angel, defend us in battle, please protect all that these come in contact… Amen
 
You can reassure that poor woman with the dying boyfriend with some scripture of your own:

Jesus said,

28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." Matt 11:28-30 (RSV)

And for the troll, Jesus said:

31 “When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, 33 and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. 34 Then the King will say to those at his right hand, Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; **35** for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, **36** I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' **37** Then the righteous will answer him, Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? 38 And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? 39 And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?’ 40 And the King will answer them, Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.' **41** Then he will say to those at his left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?' **45** Then he will answer them, Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ 46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Matt 25:31-46 (RSV)

And St. Paul wrote: (from my favorite chapter of the Bible):
1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
1 Cor 13:1-3 (RSV)

Ruthie
 
Don’t know that you can do much about “them,” but I would take their word for what it is – meaningless.
redrosetea said:
I am speaking about a person who is deceptive, and cruel, they go out of their way to hurt other people…they say they are sorry, but continue to lie and scheme and attack people with their mouth, and twist things to make them seem like a victim

I am talking about a troll…if someone does this and asks for forgiveness ,but continues their behavior how do you handle them?

They have been caught in the act, and think its funny… It might seem like nothing but for those on the net that are trying to find a meeting of minds, they can do great damage to others

I know we must forgive, but must we be a victim,Is it Christian to ignore them?
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redrosetea said:
I am speaking about a person who is deceptive, and cruel, they go out of their way to hurt other people…they say they are sorry, but continue to lie and scheme and attack people with their mouth, and twist things to make them seem like a victim

I am talking about a troll…if someone does this and asks for forgiveness ,but continues their behavior how do you handle them?

They have been caught in the act, and think its funny… It might seem like nothing but for those on the net that are trying to find a meeting of minds, they can do great damage to others

I know we must forgive, but must we be a victim,Is it Christian to ignore them?
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A tough situation to be sure. Ultimately your question is how should a Chistian approach the situation, what is the loving thing to do? The way I see it you have three options.
  1. grin and bear it, I do not recomened this as it does nothing to help your chistian freind amened their ways.
  2. Ignore it, again, same problem.
  3. The biblical response in Matthew chapter 18, talk to them about it, then get a friend and you to talk about it and if they are still obstinate take it to the Church. Be Careful! There is great peril in this on your part, as you may be tempted to judge! If this person is your friend, I would talk to them like, “hey, I know you want to spread the love of Christ, but sometimes you come off as being less than charitable”
Important note, tell them this is how you perceive it, not how they mean it. Ultimately we don’t know what is in this persons heart, they may actually mean good (I doubt it) but you never know, so approach it as a perception. If you do not know this person well then maybe go through a mutual friend, like this pastor you spoke of.

Ultimately, if you try and help them amend, and you bring the church with you and they still are obstinate, then as scripture says “let them be like a gentile and a tax collector to you” (Matt 18: 15-17 ignore them and continue to forgive in your heart and pray for them; but as action goes at that point it is out of your hands.

At least thats what I would do…of course I am a bit aggressive…
 
redrosetea said:
I am speaking about a person who is deceptive, and cruel, they go out of their way to hurt other people…they say they are sorry, but continue to lie and scheme and attack people with their mouth, and twist things to make them seem like a victim

I am talking about a troll…if someone does this and asks for forgiveness ,but continues their behavior how do you handle them?

They have been caught in the act, and think its funny… It might seem like nothing but for those on the net that are trying to find a meeting of minds, they can do great damage to others

I know we must forgive, but must we be a victim,Is it Christian to ignore them?
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People who have a need to lie all the time have a pathological condition. It’s sort of like self-preservation run amuck in a person’s brain. Sometimes people like this hurt their friends and family very deeply. Forgiving them is one thing; continuously being on the receiving end of their mental issues is quite another. The best thing to do is to ask God to help you forgive the person, and then find ways to stay away from him or her. You do not need them in your life. It will only get worse.
 
Depending on what site you are on (I presume we aren’t talking about CAF), what features are available, and what their rules are you can:

(1) Report them to a moderator and see about having them banned
(2) Put them on ignore
(3) Make a habit of posting “Please note that X makes a habit of lieing on this board. I would not take anything they say seriously” on threads/chats that they create trouble on.
(4) Stop going to that site.
 
People like that possess “aberrant personalities”. They are afflicted with psychosis. There is little difference between them and people who torture small animals. That may sound harsh, but look at the fact that they glean pleasure from their acts. At some point their actions may take on a greater scope and will cause greater damage to someone.

If this is on a web forum…you might want to get some people who do not appreciate their activities to get together and petition the webmaster or site owner to “ban” their ISP…that way they can’t just change nic’s and return.

In any event…disassociate yourself from people like that. Misery loves company…
 
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