What do you guys think of people that 'went' to Heaven?

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NDEs (near death experiences) are very interesting and may reflect authentic experiences of the afterlife. Or they may have an explainable cause, such as changes in brain activity at the moments around death.

The Church has no formal teaching on these matters.

I happen to think that many of these NDEs describe what fits my expectations of a loving, merciful God and the peace that souls in heaven experience. They seem to effect serious changes in the people who have them, greater than might be expected of medically explainable hallucinations. We’ll never know if they are true or not till our own time comes.
 
Just following this thread… I have always been interested in this topic and want to see what other people’s thoughts are.
 
Certainly many who we would not necessarily consider to be holy Catholics have claimed visions of a paradisal afterlife, which makes me both skeptical and hopeful at the same time.
 
The best part of it when the kid liked heavens and did not want to go back to earth but JESUS had to send his spirit back because he answered the kid’s father prayers. 🙂
 
People who have these kinds of visions have them for a reason.

Or it’s chemical, just extreme imbalances in the brain due to trauma etc.

Do altered states of consciousness such as NDE reveal what is truly there beyond the veil, or are they merely hallucinations? Yes and No? Depends on the person?
 
do you guys believe that people actually went to heaven, saw/talk God, and came back?

here’s an example…

youtube.com/watch?v=dmYBn_qoGhw

what are your or the church’s thoughts on this?
I believe it can really happen. 🙂 But like with anything else, some people can exploit it and lie and tell false stories etc. But I do believe people can and have had real experiences like that.🙂
 
The best part of it when the kid liked heavens and did not want to go back to earth but JESUS had to send his spirit back because he answered the kid’s father prayers. 🙂
That sounds like the book I read about the little kid who went to heaven and he said how they brought things to him that he was familiar with so he wouldn’t be afraid and how the angels were singing songs and he asked them to sing We Will Rock You and he said they wouldn’t sing that song. LOL!! :rotfl: 😃 That was cute. Then he said he wanted to stay but Jesus told him he has to go back because He’s answering his father’s prayer. 🙂

I like the stories about kids NDE because little kids can’t lie the way adults can.
 
That sounds like the book I read about the little kid who went to heaven and he said how they brought things to him that he was familiar with so he wouldn’t be afraid and how the angels were singing songs and he asked them to sing We Will Rock You and he said they wouldn’t sing that song. LOL!! :rotfl: 😃 That was cute. Then he said he wanted to stay but Jesus told him he has to go back because He’s answering his father’s prayer. 🙂

I like the stories about kids NDE because little kids can’t lie the way adults can.
Check my thread about the children pure soul:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=776045
 
I am skeptical of many of the claims that are made by people saying that they had a NDE. That being said, I have no doubt that God could cause these things to happen, afterall, there are no limits on God.

There are probably some that are real revelations, but likely many more that are mere hoaxes, hallucinations, etc. The problem is sorting the real from the not.
 
I can believe children who are incapable of committing mortal sins going directly to Heaven, but I am wondering about the number of adults who have apparently died without the need to go to Purgatory instead of directly to Heaven. Or have I missed those stories?
 
I can believe children who are incapable of committing mortal sins going directly to Heaven, but I am wondering about the number of adults who have apparently died without the need to go to Purgatory instead of directly to Heaven. Or have I missed those stories?
I’ve heard of stories where some say they were in hell too, although those stories are not as popular as the Heaven ones. 😉 All you have to do is google NDE experiences of those who saw hell. Very scary indeed! Here’s a few stories I found.

I Should Not Be Here

“In the darkness I became aware of an even more evil presence than I had already felt and there, high above anything, was this creature I just know was Satan. I didn’t know what to do because this wasn’t just a dream, this was reality. In my terror I screamed out, “I’m a Christian and I belong to Jesus. I shouldn’t be here”, but Satan looked down and laughed a hideous laugh that I will always remember, and said, " When I tempted you, you gave in to me, you belong to me now”, and at that moment I knew it was true. What could I do? There I was in Hell, with Satan, and in total despair. I had thought I was a Christian, but I had not committed my life to Jesus."

Testimony from Christine Eastell - Went into a cardiac arrest after a serious car accident.

Journey to the Center of the Earth

“I tell you, the terror is unbelievable. With a spirit body, it cannot be frozen or burned. It simply exists with thousands of sensations, which this nervous system we own down here could not take. It is absolutely Hell. I was surrounded by demons. They seemed to be so excited they were doing a fancy rock and roll dance in honour of getting me there. Thousands of them shouted to me that I would never get out. They didn’t realize I was only there for a short period, and told me I was there because I had believed their deceptions whilst I was on Earth. The stench was indescribable. It was the smell of dying and dead flesh. Satan, their captain, is of course the author of death. Jesus called them unclean spirits, and they certainly are that.”
  • Dr. Richard Eby - Book: Caught Up into Paradise
Emergency Room

“A respiratory nurse who works in an emergency room told me about a patient who had gone “code red” – he flat lined. She and some other medical personnel rushed over with the defibrillator to try and bring him back to life. They applied the paddles and revived him. She said that he started screaming and shouting “the heat, the heat!” then his heart stopped again. They brought him back a second time. He shouted “The flames, the flames!” They lost him again. Four times the man flat lined and was brought back, each time shouting about the heat or the flames. After the last time, he died and they could not bring him back. She said all the doctors and nurses just stood there for a few minutes and stared at the body. They all knew that man went to hell.”
  • Mark Cahill – Book: One Heartbeat Away –
A Doctor’s Testimony

"Each time he regained heartbeat and respiration, the patient screamed, “I am in hell!” He was terrified and pleaded with me to help him. I was scared to death…Then I noticed a genuinely alarmed look on his face. He had a terrified look worse than the expression seen in death! This patient had a grotesque grimace expressing sheer horror! His pupils were dilated, and he was perspiring and trembling - he looked as if his hair was “on end.”
  • Dr. Maurice Rawlings Specialist on Internal Medicine
 
Several years before I became a Catholic, I had a NDE. I belived I was in sort of hell, totally alone. And here’s the kicker - God did not exist.

Since I came to believe that the last part of my NDE was not true, I don’t put a lot of credence into them. People with other religious traditions see their own gods when they have an NDE.
 
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