What do you think is the hardest thing for people to accept about Jesus?

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SSTeacher said:
  1. His teachings?
  2. His miracles?
  3. His resurrection?
  4. His followers?
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He was very strictly orthodox and did not approve of gentiles. He did not allow any relaxation of strict observance of the law of Moses.

His miracles were his whole ministry. The performance of miracles are the signs performed by all who believe him, according to what he had said. So, if you are without any miracles, his miracles are the big problem.

His resurrection is the icing on the cake, it supports his gospel of the Kingdom of God, God’s power.

His followers reject most of what he was about, and fully embrace what Paul taught. So, I think Jesus might see this as the biggest problem…
 
geometer said:
He was very strictly orthodox and did not approve of gentiles. He did not allow any relaxation of strict observance of the law of Moses.
His miracles were his whole ministry. The performance of miracles are the signs performed by all who believe him, according to what he had said. So, if you are without any miracles, his miracles are the big problem.

His resurrection is the icing on the cake, it supports his gospel of the Kingdom of God, God’s power.

His followers reject most of what he was about, and fully embrace what Paul taught. So, I think Jesus might see this as the biggest problem…
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Lord of the Sabbath

At the time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, they said unto him, Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath."

He answered, "Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread - which was not lawful for for them to do, but only for the priests . . . I tell you that one greater than the temple is here. . . For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.

Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, they asked him, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?’

He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.

Obviously, Jesus and the Pharisees (as well as yourself) differed on what an observant Jew was and is, I think it all comes down to how Jesus interpreted the Mosaic law.

P.S. And if Jesus was very strictly orthodox, one has to wonder why the Pharisees (and the Saducees) wished to kill him.
 
SSTeacher said:
  1. His teachings?
  2. His miracles?
  3. His resurrection?
  4. His followers?
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his teachings… especially (nowadays) the one about how so few find the narrow path that leads to eternal life… These days everyone (most people) seem to think that everyone is going to heaven eventually. This is NOT what the Bible teaches… not even close. I sometimes even have a hard time believing in the teaching that Hell is eternal but you have to ask yourself: Do i believe or do i not? You can’t just pick and choose what to believe of the Bible. It either is the Word of God or it is not. Jesus is who He says or He is NOT… Obviously, i believe… I just grieve so much over people being separated from God and all His goodness forever… and it particularly grieves me that so many seem to choose the wrong way… but anyway, that’s just the way things are, i guess…

while at the Blessed Sacrament some time ago, i got a very strong feeling that my mind was cluttered with too much worldly (human) stuff. It was horrifying to see how separated from Christ i was because of all the temporal debris in my head/heart/soul… I mean, it felt like i had to be in Purgatory 100 yrs to get to where i need to be, spiritually… and for all i know, that may be the case. The avg stay in Purg is supposed to be 40 yrs!!! (some saint said that or maybe more than one?)…

anyway… I think that’s why a lot of people reject Jesus… He’s just not “tolerant” enough… :rolleyes:

i know that’s why pepole reject his Church…
 
  1. His teachings?
  2. His miracles?
  3. His resurrection?
  4. His followers?
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I am surprised from childhood to believe ,Our Lord and GOD Jesus taught us- Mathew 5:39 :
39 But I say this to you: offer no resistance to the wicked. On the contrary, if anyone hits you on the right cheek, offer him the other as well;

catholic.org/bible/book.php?id=47

While Comparing to Any Other Religion ,we can understand ,this teaching can only come from Heaven.🙂
**38 'You have heard how it was said: Eye for eye and tooth for tooth. **(Matthew 5:38)
^Sadly ,this is what Our Islamists does :o
 
geometer said:
His miracles were his whole ministry. …
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this is NOT true…

Jesus spoke more of Hell than Heaven…

He wanted (and His primary mission was) to save people from the power of sin… which leads to Hell, which is forever…

His miracles were secondary…

We will be healed of everything some day… when in Heaven…

However, we won’t even GET to heaven if we do not do everything He says…

as He said, it is better to go into Heaven maimed than into Hell with our whole body…
 
distracted said:
this is NOT true…

Jesus spoke more of Hell than Heaven…

He wanted (and His primary mission was) to save people from the power of sin… which leads to Hell, which is forever…

His miracles were secondary…

We will be healed of everything some day… when in Heaven…

However, we won’t even GET to heaven if we do not do everything He says…

as He said, it is better to go into Heaven maimed than into Hell with our whole body…
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Well, only God Almighty can save you, and that is a miracle. The gospels do not speak of being saved from sin. Salvation in the gospels is an act of God…
 
josie_L said:
Obviously, Jesus and the Pharisees (as well as yourself) differed on what an observant Jew was and is, I think it all comes down to how Jesus interpreted the Mosaic law.

P.S. And if Jesus was very strictly orthodox, one has to wonder why the Pharisees (and the Saducees) wished to kill him.
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He may have reinterpreted the law a bit, but he did not abolish any of it.

Caiaphas the high priest gave the reason. He was executed in order to save the nation of Israel from the Romans.
 
geometer said:
He may have reinterpreted the law a bit, but he did not abolish any of it.

He is the fulfilment of the Law, hence the reason he calls himself the Lord of the Sabbath.

“I tell you that one greater than the temple is here.” and “For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

Caiaphas the high priest gave the reason. He was executed in order to save the nation of Israel from the Romans.
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So it had nothing to do with Blasphemy?

Well I guess than Caiaphas and Pontius Pilate were at odds, because Pilate saw nothing seditious and/or treasonous about Jesus.
 
josie_L said:
So it had nothing to do with Blasphemy?

Well I guess than Caiaphas and Pontius Pilate were at odds, because Pilate saw nothing seditious and/or treasonous about Jesus.
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Well, if the words of Caiaphas have any weight…
 
For myself, I would have to say I struggle the most with his divintiy, as terrible as that sounds. I accept that he is God\The Son of God, but at times, I cannot help but think he was just a man. A very intelligent man, but a man non the less.

At times, I cannot get out of my head that there have been many extremely charismatic preachers over the years, and that perhaps he was the best of them. Again, I DO believe, but, since you were asking, that is my own personal biggest struggle.
 
Can’t say what is hardest for others - but know what is the hardest for me.

Couldn’t put one aspect better than the following quote fron Among Strangers
Among Strangers:
That He is the Incarnation of God; God made flesh; fully God and fully man in one Person, who is the second Person in the Trinity, Who is One God
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Then I also find it hard to understand/believe that Jesus had to die for our sins.

A third - I have a problem with Jesus’ anger and contempt at people who seem to me to be doing their best - eg the elder brother in the parable of the Prodigal son. I have no problem with the younger brother being forgiven and restored to the family but I wish there was more understanding of the feelings of the older brother and that the father was able to understand the older son’s feelings.

And fourthly - Jesus preached about being meek and humble but there were many times when he was other than that.
 
geometer said:
Well, if the words of Caiaphas have any weight…
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"'The Jews insisted, "We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he
 claimed to be the Son of God."

 ". . . Pilate tried to set Jesus free, but the Jews kept shouting, "If you let this man go,
  you are no friend of Caesar, anyone who claims to be a King opposes Caeasar." 

 ". . . Here is your King," Pilate said to the Jews."

 "But they shouted, "Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!"

 "Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked

 "We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered".

 "Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified."
 
josie L;4893280 said:
I do not think that these were Rabbinical priests. Why would they say such a thing? Do you think that the Jews were so happy about the Roman occupation?
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promethius said:
What, pray tell, is the roman catholic faith? Is that of any relation to the latin rite of the catholic church… or is it a different subsidiary of the SEVEN rites which compose the catholic church? perhaps you should know what we are before you slander our beliefs about protestants.

For example, the church teaches that you protestants ARE catholic, though separated, and that you DO have both Christ and Christian truth insofar as you’ve managed to preserve those teachings that you took and kept from the catholic church. Benedict stated this clearly on his trip to brazil and it was front page news even in america. Please, try not to slander us catholics, it just makes protestants look bad.
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What are you talking about? I’m not trying to slander anyone.
 
geometer said:
I do not think that these were Rabbinical priests. Why would they say such a thing? Do you think that the Jews were so happy about the Roman occupation?
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No, but I think they (those who wished him dead) hated Jesus even more.
 
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