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PJM
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In your opinion why is Catholism “not taken seriously/”
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Why do you think people do not take Catholicism seriously, Pat? I don’t think that at all.
In fact, I think it is taken quite Seriously, particularly by those who wish to marginalize faith in general, and Christianity in particular. They can ignore the LCMS, but not you guys, at 1.2 billion.
Jon
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Aelred_Minor
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I agree. From what I’ve seen both the friends and enemies of the Church seem to take Catholicism quite seriously.
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rinnie
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Sometimes I think the enemies more.
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Brian123456
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I think our enemies take it very seriously and recognize the Truth and it’s almost a compliment when they attempt to take us down. An unpleasant compliment for sure but by ‘hating’ us they only further strengthen us.
I think some of us don’t take the ‘Catholicism’ seriously as we should as sometimes some of us get too comfy and lax and think let the others take care of it.
Thank you to all the others taking care of it.
I think some of us don’t take the ‘Catholicism’ seriously as we should as sometimes some of us get too comfy and lax and think let the others take care of it.
Thank you to all the others taking care of it.
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ahs
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I can relate to both views here…that I see Catholicism taken quite seriously (especially amongst Protestants on CAF or some others that are set upon “saving Catholics”) AND that I have been in the throws of discussion with those who don’t at all. Right now, I happen to be engaging a couple guys on another site that take it seriously in practice (meaning, they sure devote alot of time arguing against it…so it is presumably a serious matter for them) yet their words portray them as laughing off Catholicism as though it were just a passing phase…a mere tradition that shall pass. I think also we can include those Catholics who seem to know little, if any, of their Faith and don’t seem to care (which likely excludes that majority of people on this forum). These would be the folks who you may hear say, “I’m Catholic…BUT…” and then they go on to defend some part of their life or belief that they like the Church to keep out of.
For those who don’t, or at least “seem” to not…I can only guess.
For those who don’t, or at least “seem” to not…I can only guess.
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wmw
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It just seems a, “why do you beat your wife?”, question.
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concretecamper
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IMO, if you want to render something irrelevant, you marginalize it first.
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Rinnie! Really? Every person?The devil sure takes it seriously. He works day and night trying to destory the One True Church and word of God.
Every person out there who are not Catholic sure take alot of tine to try to rip down the CC. And they are pretty serious.
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MaryT777
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Those who I spoke with the most on a Protesant/ Catholic website were very serious about Catholicism. Many who vehemently disagreed had spent a lot of time studying “their version” of it.
A lot of what they are taught is spoon fed mistruths.
Those on these forums are very cordial and the non Catholic Religions forum is great.
Mary.
A lot of what they are taught is spoon fed mistruths.
Those on these forums are very cordial and the non Catholic Religions forum is great.
Mary.
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ellzeena
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The Pope is constantly in the news. The election of a new Pope is a major media event (in the secular world). The only Church I can discern that is under constant secular attack is the Roman Catholic Church. Every misdeed, every slip of the tongue of anyone in authority, is quoted and expounded upon ad nauseam by the secular media. Why do you think this is? Do you see the sins of leaders of non-denominational faiths (legion) repeated and rebuked over and over through the years? Heck no. They just fall into obscurity or go forward with their money hungry campaigns and false teachings!
What the Pope says means something to the entire world. Yes, a huge number of those people don’t agree, but they still listen. See what Jesus had to say about His church and its sufferings and you will see that the only Church that fulfills these prophecies is His church, the Roman Catholic church.
What the Pope says means something to the entire world. Yes, a huge number of those people don’t agree, but they still listen. See what Jesus had to say about His church and its sufferings and you will see that the only Church that fulfills these prophecies is His church, the Roman Catholic church.
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Monergistic
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Well, since I live in the US, taking Catholicism seriously mostly depends on what’s going on with Catholics in the US.
So there’s all these Catholics born in the US, and for the most part they tend to live out their lives in the US.
If a few more of those Catholics were saints, that would make me take Catholicism more seriously.
There’s this whole process, the blesseds and venerables and servants of God. But saints are the ones that make everyone sit up and take notice. That is what’s really taken seriously. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the process or with the methods of consideration. But for whatever reason, there aren’t that many American Catholics that have achieved that. A few who were born somewhere else then came here, and a few who were born here and went somewhere else. But not that many overall, and even fewer who were born here and continued to live here.
So if there were a few people like that- American born saints living in America, who get that way by being great and not by relaxing the standards at all- that would do a lot. It would inspire Catholics in this country like nothing else, and it would earn the respect of a whole lot of non-Catholics. Making saints, becoming saints, having them around- that makes everyone take Catholicism seriously, and I might argue that it’s a great metric for how Catholicism’s doing at any given place and time.
When there are some Catholic saints around and doing their thing, I don’t know if it’s possible to completely refuse to take Catholicism seriously. And if there really is a serious and widespread tendency to not take Catholicism seriously at a given place and time, it’s probably a good guess that Catholic saints haven’t been around there in awhile.
So I’d look to saints as a metric, and I might try to relate some other metrics to that as well. Seems like an important overall end goal.
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SteveVH
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I think this forum is evidence enough that this isn’t true.Every person out there who are not Catholic sure take alot of tine to try to rip down the CC. And they are pretty serious.
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PJM
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Interestering take
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PJM
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There seems to be a lack of influence that did not exist for a very long time.
God Bless you Jon,
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His blessing also with you, Pat.
I think the CC is now important because, in part, the government has moved into trying
to influence morals, marginalize faith. This is what brought the
LCMS into the fray, as well. Our communions have
to be engaged now, to protect our faith and freedom.
Jon
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SteveVH
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Absolutely.
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ufamtobie
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Hey Jon,
I think you should not ignore the 1.2 billion either and come on home
Ufam Tobie
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