What does freedom mean to a Muslim

[BelFarfalla]

i`m searching for the topic in the news , i dont wanna talk without proof

What? Are you denying that Christians in just about every Muslim country are pesectued and even in some cases being exterminated by Muslims.

 

[Ella]

islam must be respected ,we are not like christians who accept insult to their religion

RESPECT IS EARNED. The behavior displaced in your link is totally unworthy of respect.
If you want people to respect islam, stop behaving like barbarians.

 

[BelFarfalla]

islam must be respected ,we are not like christians who accept insult to their religion
plz go and study the bible to know what you will know them by their fruits mean

if its general then
December 8, 1941 - The USA declares war on Japan.

December 15, 1941 - US submarines sink Japanese merchant ships

January 27, 1942 - Japanese warship sunk by an American submarine

February 1, 1942 - First American aircraft carrier offensive of the war, Yorktown and Enterprise conduct air raids on Japanese bases in the Gilbert and Marshall Islands.

February 24, 1942 - The Enterprise attacks Japanese on Wake Island.

March 4, 1942 - The Enterprise attacks Marcus Island

March 18, 1942 - The War Relocation Authority us established in the USA. which will go on to round up 120,000 Japanese-American civilians and deport them to barb-wired camps

April 18, 1942 - Doolittle’ B-25 raids Tokyo from the Hornet

June 4-5, 1942 - The USA defeats Japan in the Battle of Midway, four Japanese carriers and a cruiser sunk by the American navy

August 7, 1942 - The USA invades Tulagi and Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands.

August 17, 1942 - American marines attack Makin Atoll in the Gilbert Islands

August 30, 1942 - The USA invades Adak Island in the Aleutian Islands.

April 18, 1943 - American P-38 fighters assassinate Japanese Admiral Yamamoto

May 10, 1943 - American Troops invade Attu in the Aleutian Islands.

June 1, 1943 - The USA begins submarine warfare against Japanese shipping.

July 8, 1943 - American B-24s bomb Japanese on Wake Island.
November 1, 1943 - The USA invades Bougainville in the Solomon Islands.

December 26, 1943 - American marines invade Cape Gloucester.

January 31, 1944 - The USA invades Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands.

June 5, 1944 - 77 American B-29 bomb Japanese railway stations in Thailand.

July 19, 1944 - The USA invades Guam in the Marianas.

October 11, 1944 - The USA raids Okinawa.

November 11, 1944 - Iwo Jima bombarded by the American Navy.

November 24, 1944 - American B-29s bomb aircraft factories near Tokyo.

February 19, 1945 - The USA invades Iwo Jima.

March 1, 1945 - American submarines sink a Japanese merchant ship, despite the ship being granted safe passage

March 9/10 - 279 American B-29s firebomb Tokyo, killing thousands of civilians

August 6, 1945 - Americans drop atomic bomb on Hiroshima killing over 100,000 Japanese civilians

August 9, 1945 - Americans drop atomic bomb on Nagasaki, killing over 30,000 Japanese civilians

August 14, 1945 - Japan surrenders unconditionally

August 29, 1945 - The USA occupies Japan

The first thing you listed was: December 8, 1941 - The USA declares war on Japan.

Seems that you forgot to list Pearl Harbor… when the Japanese attacked out by surprise.

Your point of this post is what? Japan attacked the USA killing thousands of our people. We fought back.

Don’t forget that Japan also was attacknig China where they raped and killed hundreds of thousands. They started the war. We defeneded ourselves.

 

[BelFarfalla]

here is why that happened ,i dont say it was justified but i say it was a reaction not an action ,they insulted islam and claimed manythings about it news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4366232.stm

This riot and the violence was a reaction to a video tape about a person who left Islam for Christianity.

You think that this is a reason for violence and killing people?

 

[Ella]

This riot and the violence was a reaction to a video tape about a person who left Islam for Christianity.

You think that this is a reason for violence and killing people?

Of course he does. Because he is living in a society that is founded on barbarianism. Which is incompatible with human civilization of the 21st century.

 

[BelFarfalla]

if that is true ,didnt your so tiny mind told you how they still exist?

Are you saying that it cannot be true that Msulims are killing and persecuting Christians because Christians still exist? What sick reasoning…

 

[BelFarfalla]

here is why that happened ,i dont say it was justified but i say it was a reaction not an action ,they insulted islam and claimed manythings about it
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4366232.stm

No, you are saying that it was justified because they insulted Islam.

Well buddy you are here insulting Christianity. Does this mean that we should rush out and riot against Muslims and attack an Imam. By your way of thinking it would be justified because you are insulting our religion and our God.

What you and other don’t seem to realize is that this violent action does not help your religion, it does not protect your precious Muhammad. What it does is show that people are right when they say that Islam is violent.

This riot and the attack on the nun was about a video that the Church/school showed. IT was seen by a couple of hundred people. If the riot and violence had never happened, no one else in the entire world would know about it. But now because of the riot and violence the world knows…… What do we know….
That Islam is not strong enough to withstand a little video play done by school kids … that Muslims had to terrorize those school kids and their parents to make them shut up because Islam is a weak religion with weak theology that requires violence to make sure no one speaks against it.

Violence is not necessary is the religion is true because God will ensure its spread and it’s continuance.

 

[paarsurrey]

Violence is not necessary if the religion is true because God will ensure its spread and it’s continuance.

Hi
I agree with you.
Thanks

The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.

The first forty years i.e. before Muhammad was appointed ProphetMessenger by GodAllahYHWH has been offered as a reasonable argument/challenge in Quran before Infidels-of-Mecca, and they could not deny its truthfulness.

Muhammad had a marvelous record of a peace loving person for 40+13+2=55 years, he joined in welfare activities if there was any in Mecca, he helped the needy and in distress, he stood for the human cause, he never harmed any person. His record in these 55 years is clean by any standards.

 

[ahmadhassan]

RESPECT IS EARNED. The behavior displaced in your link is totally unworthy of respect.
If you want people to respect islam, stop behaving like barbarians.

oh did they started with respect?they made a play insulting islam ,what muslims did isnt totally justified but it was a reaction not an action

 

[ahmadhassan]

No, you are saying that it was justified because they insulted Islam.

if you proved that i insulted christianity or said that it was totally justified i will leave

 

[ahmadhassan]

The first thing you listed was: December 8, 1941 - The USA declares war on Japan.

Seems that you forgot to list Pearl Harbor… when the Japanese attacked out by surprise.

Your point of this post is what? Japan attacked the USA killing thousands of our people. We fought back.

Don’t forget that Japan also was attacknig China where they raped and killed hundreds of thousands. They started the war. We defeneded ourselves.

so its justified to kill their children and un armed ppl

 

[ahmadhassan]

Are you saying that it cannot be true that Msulims are killing and persecuting Christians because Christians still exist? What sick reasoning…

if we muslims kill christians ,you wouldnt have found 10 million christian in egypt

 

[ahmadhassan]

Is insulting Islam or Muhammad justification to fight/kill others?

If I were to stand on the street in Egypt and say to people who pass by that Muhammad told lies…am I free to do that?

if you said so its normal bec you didnt believe him ,but not to make laugh of him

 

[hosemonkey]

You have made that offer before, you have been proven wrong in many areas, and yet you stay, making stupid statements and being a nuisance. You are not going to convince anyone that Mohamedanism is not false religion and that moslems are not a bunch of violent thugs. You are wasting our time here.

 

[Morning_Star15]

if we muslims kill christians ,you wouldnt have found 10 million christian in egypt

That has to be one of the most illogical arguments I’ve ever heard. That’s like saying that because there were still Jews living in Europe during and after WWII, this proves that the Nazis weren’t killing Jews. So your argument is that if not all the Christians are killed, that means none of them are killed. How low can you go in your arguments?

 

[Verisimilitude]

islam must be respected ,we are not like christians who accept insult to their religion
plz go and study the bible to know what you will know them by their fruits mean

Why must Islam be respected?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/behead768453_1.jpg

What was this man guilty of?
http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040511/040511_beheading_hmed3p.standard.jpg

She is somebody’s wife or daughter or mother. Is this respecting her?
http://thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/Tehran-stoning.jpg

Justice?
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/images/caning-in-aceh.jpg

What does freedom mean to Islam?
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/muslim_thug_1.jpg

Why death to America?
http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF2002/Weaver/Weaver03.jpg

How many of the 1.3 billion feel this way?

https://notfound.typepad.com

Holy words?
[[by NickGisburne]]("http://www.youtube.com/watch_fullsc...sk=ub9gEUrYjQpTpNJtRhWTHgU&fs=1&title=Islamic Teachings: Cruelty From The Qur’an [by NickGisburne)

 

[BelFarfalla]

if we muslims kill christians ,you wouldnt have found 10 million christian in egypt

You just don’t kill all of the Christians… Mostly Copts and other Christians are abused and mistreated by the Muslims of Egypt

Oh, so then using the same argument we can say that the Crusasders never killed any mulims as there are hundreds of millions of Muslims in the middle east.

 

[Verisimilitude]

plz go and study the bible to know what you will know them by their fruits mean

I think it abundantly clear you do not know what it means.

 

[redmars3000]

open new thread and i will answer you ,dont change topic so that i forget the current topic

Pretty arrogant for you to tell people not to change topics since that is how you ‘debate’ in the majority of your posts.

 

[redmars3000]

Why must Islam be respected?

:clapping: :clapping: Well Done Verisimilitude.

There is your fruit Ahmad.

(Dont expect him to stay on the same subject though in his reply.)