What does it mean for a husband to lead his family?

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Honestly, this is the kind of decision that a person highly trained in medicine is going to go over with a parent or both parents, and usually will offer a recommendation. In emergency situations, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Now, if you know that the person you intend on marrying objects to blood transfusions or other types of medical care, that would be a very, very serious conversation to have before the wedding.
Yes the whole transfusion thing i see, but what if you come from a mindset of where going to fight till the end. But your spouse id more like, I don’t know, even after speaking to the dr. Shouldn’t one, more than likely the husband say, this is what were going to do? These situations do happen, some might not be medical decisions, but other decisions.
 
Yes the whole transfusion thing i see, but what if you come from a mindset of where going to fight till the end. But your spouse id more like, I don’t know, even after speaking to the dr. Shouldn’t one, more than likely the husband say, this is what were going to do? These situations do happen, some might not be medical decisions, but other decisions.
My husband and I tend to have the policy that whoever feels more strongly is generally going to be the one who gets their way. But that works for us because neither one of us is particularly domineering, and the things we tend to feel strongly about are also things we tend to know a lot about (or at least more than the other).

I guess I don’t understand how what you are saying would be applied in real life.
 
The greatest of you says Jesus is not the one who is being served but the one who serves. We are all called to know what this means. Be that as it means it is the father and husband who can lead by example. We are called to be servants to one another. On paper it sounds great but in practice it doesn’t seem to work at least with many. It is a gold mine when a man does learn to be this servant. This does not mean he is passive. He has learned to love from those who brought him up and more important he learned it from his Lord. Most fathers have been given a trait which will make them the nurturers and mentors for their family. The mother and wife tends to be the disciplinarian for the family giving the “sermon on the mount” to the children when they are younger. The father’s role kicks in later when the children need someone for them to listen to them. This is the nurturer and mentor stage where fathers can excel at. In the first stage the child tends to be spoken to an then grows into the second stage where the child is listened to. That stage is when the fathers are required to give each child some of his time.
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My Grandparents have been married for 67 years and both are in their 90’s…My Grandma knows her place in the family and my Grandpa knows his position as the man of the house…after all this time, he still as not been promoted.

He acts all tough and everything, but he is well aware who the boss is…It is kind of funny to watch how they interact…My Grandpa is not a weak man, but he knows Grandma wont put up with anything.
It’s cool to see a home with a strong matriarch who is given full dignity by a quiet yet confident patriarch.
 
Keeping in mind that some husbands aren’t fit to lead a family.
God couldn’t sanction abusive, unjust, selfish, husbands to lead a family.
Such men mock the Christian ideal of marriage, fatherhood and family.
May God protect and guide their wives and children.
 
Raylan Alleman? Of the “don’t send your daughters to college because they don’t need a higher education” movement. Thanks, but no thanks. :mad:
Peace & all Good to all!

I’m not endorsing every single one of his comments, but I do think that generally he has some good contributions to make to a discussion or debate. Personally I have no objection to women going to college. I’m all for it if that’s what they want to do & if they feel called to going to college.

College is a Spiritually perilous place much of the time for BOTH male AND female students and I just worry that young people feel pressured sometimes into going to college because they feel they have to for whatever reason. A higher education shouldn’t become an end in itself, being pursued just for the sake of it-whether we’re talking about someone’s son or daughter. I also know plenty of smart & successful people that went to college & plenty that didn’t so I guess it’s a matter of looking at people’s individual preferences & where they feel called & where they think they can benefit most.

But I’m definitely all in favour of everyone having access to it & doing it if they feel called & inclined to do so.

I hope this makes sense, it’s past midnight for me now-please forgive any nonsensical or misspelled parts. my caffeine stream is depleted & things begin to break down when that happens.😃

God Bless everyone. And to all a good night!! 👍:blessyou::blessyou:
 
Raylan Alleman? Of the “don’t send your daughters to college because they don’t need a higher education” movement. Thanks, but no thanks. :mad:
Peace and all Good!

I’d just like to add one final thought about this, I hope the OP won’t mind the slight drift from the stated topic for the thread.

Without getting into a full blown discussion of Higher education & it’s merits I’d just like to say that if a young woman feels called to dedicate her life to being a stay at home mother which is a wonderful thing then she would not, strictly speaking need a higher education for this. Although there’s no reason she shouldn’t go to college as well. I always understood Raylan Alleman’s point to be that Higher Education isn’t necessary for family life & motherhood (but it may be helpful in some respects), and given campus life these days it may not be good for the Spiritual life of members of either sex.

Note, I didn’t say because a woman should only be a stay at home mother or anything like that. I’m just offering my thoughts & saying that a higher education isn’t always necessary in life & people shouldn’t feel pressured into it.

God Bless
 
If you would really like an in depth discussion about what it is to be a Man after God’s own heart:

That Man Is You

I don’t know if this is available in OP’ area however:
The Arch Diocese of Omaha where I live endorses this program (feel free to write to or contact the chancery office). I live in an area with several parishes that boarder each other, and all of them have co-operated to create an inter-parish group along with the KoC support for this program.
Peace and all Good!

z_0101,

Thanks a lot for sharing the link to the course, it does look great! we certainly don’t have anything like that near where I am but I’d love to get something like it going!

God Bless
 
Peace and all Good!

I’d just like to add one final thought about this, I hope the OP won’t mind the slight drift from the stated topic for the thread.

Without getting into a full blown discussion of Higher education & it’s merits I’d just like to say that if a young woman feels called to dedicate her life to being a stay at home mother which is a wonderful thing then she would not, strictly speaking need a higher education for this. Although there’s no reason she shouldn’t go to college as well. I always understood Raylan Alleman’s point to be that Higher Education isn’t necessary for family life & motherhood (but it may be helpful in some respects), and given campus life these days it may not be good for the Spiritual life of members of either sex.

Note, I didn’t say because a woman should only be a stay at home mother or anything like that. I’m just offering my thoughts & saying that a higher education isn’t always necessary in life & people shouldn’t feel pressured into it.

God Bless
No women should ever feel trapped. I think it’s extremely unwise to discourage women from pursuing a degree because there is no need for one.

If she were to become widowed at a young age with children. If she were to marry a man who cannot or will not support the family (regardless of marriage prep and good intentions this frequently happens). If the husband finds himself unemployed for an extended period of time. If the husband finds himself indisposed (injured, sick, both) and cannot work for an extended period of time.
If mom has nothing on her resume besides “homemaker” since the age of 18, she is not going to be able to do much besides low-skilled, low-entry job and most likely won’t be able to cover the mortgage, groceries, utilities and bills for an extended period of time. Even if she were to help.

If her only option is to literally find a new husband, and quick, because the bills are piling up and she can’t manage on her own…then there is a major problem.

If she doesn’t want to pursue a degree…that’s one thing. That is her choice. I don’t even think this should be a mutual decision between a husband/wife. If she wants to further her education and gain job training and skills…she shouldn’t be discouraged by anyone.

It’s extremely surprising and discouraging seeing this kind of an argument. I’m all for Church teaching but twisting words and scripture that places a women completely under the thumb of her husband is wrong. And even suggesting that a women has no need to pursue higher education or do anything that is related to honing job skills because that could get in the way of her job as a mother and homemaker…is wrong.

Raylan Allen’s arguments can do some serious damage to the mindsets of both young women and men. They’ve been argued here on CAF before.

Given the current economy in most westernized nations…it would be almost suicidal for a young family to rely solely on a husband’s ability to provide for the family. If he loses his job…which is, at this point, likely…a family is seriously handicapping themselves if their only option is he gets another job right now because…well the wife is supposed to be a homemaker…she’s not supposed to go into the workforce to provide. Her providing is not an option. We planned it that way by forgoing college and any kind of job training outside of the home.

I’m a homemaker and a stay at home mom. But I do have a resume and plenty of job experience. I’m finishing my degree because my husband did lose his job and couldn’t find another that paid as much as the first one.
we realized dry quickly that it isn’t wise to rely on only the husband to work and provide.
Sometimes a family needs to go into survival mode. Most families will be there and one needs to be prepared.
 
No women should ever feel trapped. I think it’s extremely unwise to discourage women from pursuing a degree because there is no need for one.

If she were to become widowed at a young age with children. If she were to marry a man who cannot or will not support the family (regardless of marriage prep and good intentions this frequently happens). If the husband finds himself unemployed for an extended period of time. If the husband finds himself indisposed (injured, sick, both) and cannot work for an extended period of time.
If mom has nothing on her resume besides “homemaker” since the age of 18, she is not going to be able to do much besides low-skilled, low-entry job and most likely won’t be able to cover the mortgage, groceries, utilities and bills for an extended period of time. Even if she were to help.

If her only option is to literally find a new husband, and quick, because the bills are piling up and she can’t manage on her own…then there is a major problem.

If she doesn’t want to pursue a degree…that’s one thing. That is her choice. I don’t even think this should be a mutual decision between a husband/wife. If she wants to further her education and gain job training and skills…she shouldn’t be discouraged by anyone.

It’s extremely surprising and discouraging seeing this kind of an argument. I’m all for Church teaching but twisting words and scripture that places a women completely under the thumb of her husband is wrong. And even suggesting that a women has no need to pursue higher education or do anything that is related to honing job skills because that could get in the way of her job as a mother and homemaker…is wrong.

Raylan Allen’s arguments can do some serious damage to the mindsets of both young women and men. They’ve been argued here on CAF before.

Given the current economy in most westernized nations…it would be almost suicidal for a young family to rely solely on a husband’s ability to provide for the family. If he loses his job…which is, at this point, likely…a family is seriously handicapping themselves if their only option is he gets another job right now because…well the wife is supposed to be a homemaker…she’s not supposed to go into the workforce to provide. Her providing is not an option. We planned it that way by forgoing college and any kind of job training outside of the home.

I’m a homemaker and a stay at home mom. But I do have a resume and plenty of job experience. I’m finishing my degree because my husband did lose his job and couldn’t find another that paid as much as the first one.
we realized dry quickly that it isn’t wise to rely on only the husband to work and provide.
Sometimes a family needs to go into survival mode. Most families will be there and one needs to be prepared.
Peace and all Good, Kelfa

thank you very much for your response! It was very helpful for me

I apologise if my reference to Raylan Alleman has caused any offence to anyone on this thread, this was not my intention, it may have been somewhat naive & foolish of me. If so, I do apologise.

I was not necessarily trying to argue for his views and points, I originally included him among other examples of Catholics discussing the issues of Fatherhood & family life, to try and give a wide frame of reference on the topic, and subsequently to explain how I understood his remarks on Higher Education of daughters.

As I’ve said repeatedly, I am very much in favor of everyone receiving Higher Education, just so long as they are happy with this & aren’t pressured into one choice or another

God Bless & reward you
 
Peace and all Good!

z_0101,

Thanks a lot for sharing the link to the course, it does look great! we certainly don’t have anything like that near where I am but I’d love to get something like it going!

God Bless
Great!!!
The very first place to start is to contact the program director. They will send you some introductory materials for you to read thru and then take to your Pastor. If you have any problems with this first step please PM me and I can help as I was one of the Core group that helped to establish our program. Please be patient with my replies; however, I will get back to you about this program!

The hardest parts, are the time, the seed money and getting the Men in your Parish to enroll and attend. We’re blessed that the KoC is basically allowing us to rent the hall for electricity and they hold a breakfast fundraiser for the rest of the cost. Goes over very very well (last time we had a surplus that we used for a better projector 😃 ).

And Don’t Think That You Can’t Do This… that is what I thought… the man to get this started: That Man Is You… 👍
 
Great!!!
The very first place to start is to contact the program director. They will send you some introductory materials for you to read thru and then take to your Pastor. If you have any problems with this first step please PM me and I can help as I was one of the Core group that helped to establish our program. Please be patient with my replies; however, I will get back to you about this program!

The hardest parts, are the time, the seed money and getting the Men in your Parish to enroll and attend. We’re blessed that the KoC is basically allowing us to rent the hall for electricity and they hold a breakfast fundraiser for the rest of the cost. Goes over very very well (last time we had a surplus that we used for a better projector 😃 ).

And Don’t Think That You Can’t Do This… that is what I thought… the man to get this started: That Man Is You… 👍
Peace and All Good to you!

Thanks for the support and encouragement! I’ll let you know how things pan out, though I might take a little time-I’m about to start a new job so I may not get on here much while I’m getting settled there

God Bless
 
Marriage to me should be a partnership not a dictatorship. Sometimes I lead, sometimes he does but we work together. I believe everyone should be educated and able to be able to have a job if possible in a short time. I don’t believe staying at home for a long time is a good thing if one does plan to re enter the workforce because it will affect their live. If one plans to be a stay at home parent they should have a backup plan if things go wrong (divorce, death etc). I have no interest in ever being a stay at home wife or catering to the needs of a husband, I want a full partnership.
 
Marriage to me should be a partnership not a dictatorship. Sometimes I lead, sometimes he does but we work together. I believe everyone should be educated and able to be able to have a job if possible in a short time. I don’t believe staying at home for a long time is a good thing if one does plan to re enter the workforce because it will affect their live. If one plans to be a stay at home parent they should have a backup plan if things go wrong (divorce, death etc). I have no interest in ever being a stay at home wife or catering to the needs of a husband, I want a full partnership.
I have often wondered about the wisdom of a “lifetime” stay at home spouse, given today’s economy. My wife and I aren’t comfortable with the idea.
 
I have often wondered about the wisdom of a “lifetime” stay at home spouse, given today’s economy. My wife and I aren’t comfortable with the idea.
I’m not either. I’ve known several stay at home spouses who found they were penalized for being out of the workforce. The only way I think it could work is if the stay at home spouse still worked, perhaps part time or freelance and kept up with their skills. Otherwise, no. Even if they don’t want to be in the workforce it could affect them years from now with social security. Just too much of a risk in my opinion.
 
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