What does it mean to say that something is immoral?

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Something is immoral if it is against God’s will or intention for a particular thing. Like how having sex before marriage is against God’s intention for sex. Killing one another is against God’s intention for us, etc.
 
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I agree with bzkoss’ response, and I’d also add to or expand on that by saying that whether an action is right or wrong has to do with the object’s nature. Ethics depends on metaphysics, and what a thing is determines what it can do and what can be done to it.

So, for example, you can kill a chicken and eat it because it’s an animal w/o a rational, immortal soul, but you can’t do that to your neighbor Fred, no matter how much you’d like to, and that’s because he is not only a mortal animal, but also a rational animal with an immortal soul. It’s his soul, and his destiny of seeing God at the end of his earthly pilgrimage that makes an unnatural disruption of that journey an evil.

Just like it would be silly to use a monkey wrench to take a philips screw out of the wall because that’s ignoring the nature of both the wrench and the screw, in the same way man’s actions are morally good or evil with respect to something by measuring how well they acknowledge the nature and purpose of the object in question. That’ll be my definition : )

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We all have an inate sense of what is right and wrong, so many factors go into this, but the origin or full understanding of morality is still not known
 
bzkoss236 said:
Something is immoral if it is against God’s will or intention for a particular thing. Like how having sex before marriage is against God’s intention for sex. Killing one another is against God’s intention for us, etc.
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Not long ago I read C. S. Lewis’ book The Abolition of Man. He took the position that morality is knowable to reasoning minds, and thus certain basic principles of morality are known equally to people of disagreeing religions or of no religion.
 
Yarb said:
Not long ago I read C. S. Lewis’ book The Abolition of Man. He took the position that morality is knowable to reasoning minds, and thus certain basic principles of morality are known equally to people of disagreeing religions or of no religion.
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But, all definitions rely on an ordered universe, which leads to beaumains’s response.
 
Let me quote from “The Christian Life” by Francis L.B. Cunningham, OP.

Talking about a norm or standard by which the action is measured: “Following St. Thomas, they (Catholic philosophers and theologians) teach that there is a double objective norm of morality, the first immediate and proximate, which is right reason; the second is ultimate and supreme, the eternal law.” (page 59)

So something is moral if it is within right reason, as Yarb says “reasoning minds”. This right reason is part of the natural law which guides us to our proper end, which is final union with God, as Beaumains said. This natural law is part of our nature as our rational participation in the eternal law, which has God as its author. This natural law is affirmed by St. Paul: “When the Gentiles who have no law do by nature what the Law prescribes, these having no law are a law unto themselves. They show the work of the Law written in their hearts.” (Rom 2:14 f)

I would expand upon Beaumains statement concerning the act’s nature. An act’s nature can make it immoral no matter what. Thus an act of adultery is always immoral. However, a good act can be made immoral by the intent of the one who performs the act. Let us say that someone gives money to an orphanage. That in itself is a good act. If the one giving the money wants only to alleviate the want of the orphans, then that would be moral. If, however, he is doing it to get his picture in the paper so everyone can praise him , then theact would be immoral.

I hope this helps!
 
Anything against God’s will (e.g. breaking the commandments) is immoral.
 
Yarb said:
Not long ago I read C. S. Lewis’ book The Abolition of Man. He took the position that morality is knowable to reasoning minds, and thus certain basic principles of morality are known equally to people of disagreeing religions or of no religion.
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I would agree, because of Natural Law, which is about how things are meant to function in a moral sense. The Natural Law is part of God’s law, or an expression of His will, that is observable through reason. So, my point still stands.
 
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An intention or decision is evil if it prevents or diminishes physical, intellectual, social, or spiritual development and fulfilment. It is the antithesis of divine love…
 
bzkoss236 said:
Something is immoral if it is against God’s will or intention for a particular thing. Like how having sex before marriage is against God’s intention for sex. Killing one another is against God’s intention for us, etc.
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Intentions - interesting way of stating God’s will. I lke it.
 
tonyrey said:
An intention or decision is evil if it prevents or diminishes physical, intellectual, social, or spiritual development and fulfilment. It is the antithesis of divine love…
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Interesting, so if we remove God from the equation thus evil. We view moral/immoral from say an atheist perspective. What defines moral/immoral. There’s no boundary without a paradigm. Thoughts?
 
GaryTaylor said:
Interesting, so if we remove God from the equation thus evil. We view moral/immoral from say an atheist perspective. What defines moral/immoral. There’s no boundary without a paradigm. Thoughts?
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I don’t think there is an ‘atheist’ perspective on morality. ‘Atheism’ is not an organisation or a club, with an agenda. It is a view point.

I would suggest that morality is innate to Humans and forms part of the human condition and it has evolved that way. 🙂
 
aprilfloyd said:
I don’t think there is an ‘atheist’ perspective on morality. ‘Atheism’ is not an organisation or a club, with an agenda. It is a view point.

I would suggest that morality is innate to Humans and forms part of the human condition and it has evolved that way. 🙂
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So cannibals are moral? They too evolved through natural selection. What brings moral out of natural selection?

Regardless point being I’m looking at a perspective non religious, does atheism fit that?

When we remove religion then we are the ultimate judge of morality, so what one deems moral can easily be immoral to another. Where’s the boundary?
 
fredystairs said:
I would expand upon Beaumains statement concerning the act’s nature. An act’s nature can make it immoral no matter what. Thus an act of adultery is always immoral. However, a good act can be made immoral by the intent of the one who performs the act. Let us say that someone gives money to an orphanage. That in itself is a good act. If the one giving the money wants only to alleviate the want of the orphans, then that would be moral. If, however, he is doing it to get his picture in the paper so everyone can praise him , then theact would be immoral.
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That’s a good point, too.
 
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