What does science not know?

[Jim_Baur]

My mother taught me to ask questions.

My father taught me to find out the things that you do not know.

Them correlate the data.

I do not even know what I do not know.

I know that we get the light from that which we do not know, not from what we know.

What are the most basic things that science does not know as of yet?

Do we know what caused the Ice Age to end?

Do we know how the planets formed?

Do we know if climate change is good or bad? (I growing seasons will be longer in Canada.)

Please do not laugh, do we know what light and darkness are?

If there was a great set of earth quakes, would the ocean currents change. If they changed, what kind of weather changes would we see?

I will be reading and learning, thanks!

 

[pig]

there is a certain kismet in this thread, i was thinking about this too;

‘I know that we get the light from that which we do not know, not from what we know.’

what we don’t know is most interesting.

As far as canada warming up goes, there are fossil crocodiles and palm trees in alaska, inside the arctic circle. Temperatures during winter can reach and stay as low as -60 degrees C.
Crocodiles need temperatures year-round of about 31 degrees to 34 degrees C. So you were looking at a 94 degree C winter/year-round temperature rise in Alaska.

Catastrophic climate change models which include such unnatural causes as human industrial activity globally have only managed to predict a worst case scenario of 3 or 4 degrees C rise in temperatures globally.

So how did crocodiles and palm trees live in the arctic circle without humans warming up the climate (not that that would make any difference). I have a sneaky idea about how they did it though.

 

[Jim_Baur]

The earth’s recession is my first guess.

It is a guess.

A hit by a asteroid is another.

The list keeps on going.

A giant object hit Mars, that is for sure, not to mention the Moon.

I think I will just listen to what others say, that is what I am waiting to hear.

THANKS!!!

 

[Alberti_Devoveo]

What are the most basic things that science does not know as of yet?

I believe that the “basic things” of science are actually well known. Going beyond those basic things are what is unknown. I bet we probably only know a single-digit percentage of scientific truth available in the universe.

Do we know what caused the Ice Age to end?

I am no climatologist, but I do not think the actual cause is known.

Do we know how the planets formed?

Condensation of dust and gas in the circumstellar disk of a young star.

Do we know if climate change is good or bad? (I growing seasons will be longer in Canada.)

Climate change happens 4 times a year . More seriously, studies (and I use this term loosely) show either it is going to kill off everyone in the world or it will do nothing and then go back down to 1960’s temperature ranges (which begs the question, why were the 1960’s chosen as the baseline of temperatures to which we have compared for the current warming?)

Please do not laugh, do we know what light and darkness [/are?

Light is quanta of energy, darkness is the absence of this quanta. Suggesting that darkness is made up of ‘dark’ particles is plain wrong.

If there was a great set of earth quakes, would the ocean currents change. If they changed, what kind of weather changes would we see?

I am not qualified to answer the first question, but I imagine that a change in oceanic currents could increase or decrease storm strengths.
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[dshix]

My mother taught me to ask questions.

My father taught me to find out the things that you do not know.

Them correlate the data.

I do not even know what I do not know.

I know that we get the light from that which we do not know, not from what we know.

What are the most basic things that science does not know as of yet?

Do we know what caused the Ice Age to end?

Do we know how the planets formed?

Do we know if climate change is good or bad? (I growing seasons will be longer in Canada.)

Please do not laugh, do we know what light and darkness are?

If there was a great set of earth quakes, would the ocean currents change. If they changed, what kind of weather changes would we see?

I will be reading and learning, thanks!

We do know what caused the ice age to end, and what could cause another.

We do know how the planets formed.

Your third question isn’t quite clear. Are you talking about global warming (a fallacy) or global cooling? (actually happening)

We do know what light is. (photons) Darkness is the absence of light.

Not sure how to understand your last question.

I hope these brief answers were somewhat helpful, if you want I’ll give a small explanation of each of the things I mentioned.

 

[Jim_Baur]

Global Cooling!

Is the earth actually cooling? Cool!

I did not know that, thanks!

 

[Jim_Baur]

Western Canada has a much warmer climate than the eastern coast.

If the ocean’s current were radically changed, would the east become warm too?

Would the west become cold too?

 

[Jim_Baur]

Concerning the forming of the planet Earth, to what degree of certitude do we know how earth was formed?

THANKS!!!

 

[Jim_Baur]

This is the kind of thing for which I am looking.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Earth

One of the reasons for interest in the early atmosphere and ocean is that they form the conditions under which life first arose. There are a lot of models, but little consensus, on how life emerged from non-living chemicals; chemical systems that have been created in the laboratory still fall well short of the minimum complexity for a living organism.[50][51]

 

[Robert_Sock]

What does science not know? God!

 

[Polycarp1]

What does science not know? God!

Theology is the study of God and science is the study of God’s works. Unforunately many scientists deny God’s existance. That is like studying bear tracks but not believing in bears!

 

[Jim_Baur]

Polycarp and Sock–sounds good!

 

[catholictiger]

What are the most basic things that science does not know as of yet?

that you exist. I’m serious about this by the way Science has no way to be able to prove that you have existence. This is a very widely accepted fact among Catholic Philosophers now moderns not so much.

 

[J_Peterson]

How about determining the moment of death?

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

Science does not know why science works. In fact, scientists will go out of their way to avoid that question and, if pressed, will give the sort of amusing and unscientific answers one would expect from a child.

 

[inocente]

Science does not know why science works. In fact, scientists will go out of their way to avoid that question and, if pressed, will give the sort of amusing and unscientific answers one would expect from a child.

Do you mean Catholic scientists or all scientists?

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

Do you mean Catholic scientists or all scientists?

I am mostly familiar with materialistic scientists, those who operate entirely within the scientific worldview. That includes, I am sure, some Catholic scientists.

To explain why science works requires going outside science which is why it is unknowable to science and those who insist on keeping within it.

 

[inocente]

I am mostly familiar with materialistic scientists, those who operate entirely within the scientific worldview. That includes, I am sure, some Catholic scientists.

To explain why science works requires going outside science which is why it is unknowable to science and those who insist on keeping within it.

Oh. so you’re saying it’s those who insist on keeping within science who give “amusing and unscientific answers” (your post #15) about why science works?

A standard answer is that the world contains order, since if it didn’t science would be impossible. Can much more be said without speculating? (Both of us might believe the order comes from God, but we can’t test that scientifically, so it would be an unscientific answer.)

 

[Bubba_Switzler]

Oh. so you’re saying it’s those who insist on keeping within science who give “amusing and unscientific answers” (your post #15) about why science works? A standard answer is that the world contains order, since if it didn’t science would be impossible. Can much more be said without speculating? (Both of us might believe the order comes from God, but we can’t test that scientifically, so it would be an unscientific answer.)

Precisely. (And even to say that “the world contains order” is more loaded than you might at first appreciate. What is “order”, after all?)

Which is why I say: this is something science does not (indeed, cannot) know.

 

[Jim_Baur]

Please do not laugh, but we do not know how life started.

It is begging the question(s) to assume it started on its own?

Again, please do not laugh, do we know what light is? As of yet, which metaphor do we use, wave or particle?

To what degree of certitude do we have for the forming of Earth? Or, are there competing opinions still?

Also, do we know how the micro physics correlates with the macro physics? Would that matter with the coming into existence of life?

THANKS!