What does the Bible say about women pastors? Also your thoughts please

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1st Timothy II:12 seems clear that St. Paul did not want women as pastors. If we believe scripture is all inspired by God then there must be a reason why he was inspired to write that, despite his human prejudices.
 
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This is a Catholic website. There is no such thing as a woman pastor. Or bishop. Or priest.

On the other hand, women can do any amount of leadership outside of the liturgy, and they always have, in the great tradition of Jewish moms. Most of Rome’s great ancient churches started as some Roman matron’s house or cemetery. The first Christian charity hospital was started by the least brilliant lady in St. Jerome and St. Paula’s Bible study group, St. Faustina, and Jerome spends most of a letter to a friend admitting that he’d been totally wrong about this whole hospital idea being a mistake. Pretty much all Christian public charities, but especially the xenodochia and orphanages, were always run by church ladies like vowed widows, deacons’ wives, big donor ladies, and vowed virgins, although deacons had some oversight.

Throughout Christian history, women have been among the earliest converts and the friends of evangelization. Women start communities and save bad situations. Women insist on their Christian rights and duties, and are not afraid to push to the point of being martyred. All this is leadership, but not the pastoral kind. It is the tough old ewe in the flock, not the shepherd. It is the power of the mom and the girl.

Women have always run most parishes. Male priests are the only adequate counterweight to the dictatorship of church ladies!

(I am female… Heh.)
 
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Deborah wasn’t a pastor but she was a judge and a prophet (Judg. 4 & 5)
 
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It says in 1 Corinthians 14: 33-35:
(As in all the churches of the saints, 34 women should be silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be subordinate, as the law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church
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And it says in 1 Timothy 2: 11-12:
11 Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. 12 I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent.
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But for some reason, many churches, including Catholic churches, do allow women to speak in church and don’t require that they always remain silent. And they don’t require them to ask questions only from their husbands at home if there is something they don’t understand.
 
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This is a Catholic website. There is no such thing as a woman pastor. Or bishop. Or priest.
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Yet. I believe our children will see woman Deacons and our grandchildren may well see women as Priests. There is nothing that makes a female unable to perform well in these roles.
 
“Listen, my daughter, and give heed. Forget your people and your father’s house. So shall the king desire your beauty…”

It is a psalm about marriage, and about getting to the position of having a son and becoming the next queen mother, while the current queen mother stands arrayed in gold. Totally, totally different from male paradigms of power or duty.
 
Greek might be helpful to know here. Catholic tradition has interpreted St. Paul to mean that a woman should not preach in church.
 
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Wrong. Your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren will not see women priests. The Church has no power to do this.
 
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Greek might be helpful to know here. Catholic tradition has interpreted St. Paul to mean that a woman should not preach in church.
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But 1 Corinthians says that they can’t even ask questions if they want to know anything. What does that have to do with preaching?

Probably one reason that women weren’t allowed to preach is that many men believed that women are less intelligent than men. That is certainly what St. Thomas Aquinas believed.
 
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Deaconesses may be restored as a subdiaconate. The sacrament of Holy Orders requires a male recipient.
 
It’s going to be brought up again, and again, and again… and again! 🙂
 
The liturgy is not a question-and-answer session anyway. So I’m not sure what you mean.
 
There may be nothing that makes women unable to perform, but the Church is still unable to ordain them.
 
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St. Paul doesn’t say women are not allowed to ask priests anything after the church service, does he?
 
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St. Paul doesn’t say women are not allowed to ask priests anything after the church service, does he?
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He says, “If there is anything they desire to know, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”
 
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Not sure what you are intimating, so if this is wrong please let me know. Is your point that because the Church isn’t preventing women from speaking or asking questions in seeming contravention of the Scriptures that the Church can ordain women?
 
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