What does the Catholic Church teach about Jesus's glorified body?

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CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

DYING IN CHRIST JESUS

To rise with Christ, we must die with Christ: we must "be away from the body and at home with the Lord."In that “departure” which is death the soul is separated from the body. It will be reunited with the body on the day of resurrection of the dead.

Being away from the body is to be home with Christ.
The Resurrection Body

1 Corinthians 15:35-49. But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another… There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

Jesus is at home and is of the image of those in heaven…a spirit.

Jesus would not now be in an perishable glorified physical body made of dust. But would now be in an imperishable glorified spiritual body of power.
 
Jesus’ glorified body is not perishable. It is what our resurrected bodies will be.
 
Wesrock said:
Jesus’ glorified body is not perishable. It is what our resurrected bodies will be.
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According to Paul, our resurrected bodies will be spiritual bodies, imperishable, glorified, and with power. Physical bodies are perishable. This is why I do do not believe that Jesus is still in a physical body.
 
notforgotten said:
According to Paul, our resurrected bodies will be spiritual bodies, imperishable, glorified, and with power.
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Yes… full of spirit, conformed to Christ, in total love of God. But it will be actual, physical bodies. He does noy mean “made of spirit” or phantasms.

catholic.com/tract/resurrection-of-the-body

Fourth Lateran Council: Although he is immortal and unable to suffer according to his divinity, he was made capable of suffering and dying according to his humanity. Indeed, having suffered and died on the wood of the cross for the salvation of the human race, he descended to the underworld, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven. He descended in the soul, rose in the flesh, and ascended in both. He will come at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, to render to every person according to his works, both to the reprobate and to the elect. All of them will rise with their own bodies, which they now wear, so as to receive according to their deserts, whether these be good or bad; for the latter perpetual punishment with the devil, for the former eternal glory with Christ.

ewtn.com/library/councils/lateran4.htm#list

CCC 1016 By death the soul is separated from the body, but in the resurrection God will give incorruptible life to our body, transformed by reunion with our soul. Just as Christ is risen and lives for ever, so all of us will rise at the last day.

1017 "We believe in the true resurrection of this flesh that we now possess" (Council of Lyons II: DS 854). We sow a corruptible body in the tomb, but he raises up an incorruptible body, a “spiritual body” (cf ⇒ 1 Cor 15:42-44).
 
notforgotten said:
According to Paul, our resurrected bodies will be spiritual bodies, imperishable, glorified, and with power. Physical bodies are perishable. This is why I do do not believe that Jesus is still in a physical body.
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One must understand Paul correctly.

He does not mean we will be like ghosts…

But that we will not have bodies exactly as they are now. Limited as they are now in time and space.

No they will be glorified -like that of Jesus. Imperishable, glorified and with power as noted!

Jesus the risen Lord said -

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Luke 24:39

ewtn.com/v/bible/search_bible.asp RSV CE

He said and showed rather distinctly that he is not like a ghost - but that he has flesh and bone…

Not a corruptible body -not like say the body of someone returned to life by a doctor who “brings him back” but rather it will be transformed - glorified.
 
The Church has been adamant in its teachings since the first century that the physical bodies we have now will be resurrected and glorified. That is orthodox belief. Anything else is heterodox.
 
"At Easter we rejoice because Christ did not remain in the tomb, his body did not see corruption; he belongs to the world of the living, not to the world of the dead; we rejoice because he is the Alpha and also the Omega, as we proclaim in the rite of the Paschal Candle; he lives not only yesterday, but today and for eternity (cf. Heb 13:8).

But somehow the Resurrection is situated so far beyond our horizon, so far outside all our experience that, returning to ourselves, we find ourselves continuing the argument of the disciples: Of what exactly does this “rising” consist? What does it mean for us, for the whole world and the whole of history? A German theologian once said ironically that the miracle of a corpse returning to life - if it really happened, which he did not actually believe - would be ultimately irrelevant precisely because it would not concern us. In fact, if it were simply that somebody was once brought back to life, and no more than that, in what way should this concern us? But the point is that Christ’s Resurrection is something more, something different. If we may borrow the language of the theory of evolution, it is the greatest “mutation”, absolutely the most crucial leap into a totally new dimension that there has ever been in the long history of life and its development: a leap into a completely new order which does concern us, and concerns the whole of history."

~ Pope Benedict XVI

w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2006/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20060415_veglia-pasquale.html

Not a return to normal bodily life - our body will be transformed -though remain of course our body as that of Jesus did. A spiritual body - not as our body is now.

Rather - imperishable, glorified and with power …

Truly though a body - not “a spirit” - one that can eat fish if we wish. And be touched.

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Luke 24:39 ewtn.com/v/bible/search_bible.asp

Yet disappear and reappear.

Wonderfully so!
 
Wesrock said:
The Church has been adamant in its teachings since the first century that the physical bodies we have now will be resurrected and glorified. That is orthodox belief. Anything else is heterodox.
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Ok, this will be at the time of the resurrection of the dead. I can believe that.
 
notforgotten said:
Ok, this will be at the time of the resurrection of the dead. I can believe that.
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After death - our body is buried - our soul goes to God etc (death is the separation of the soul and the body).

At the resurrection - we will have our body - glorified! Like that of Jesus.

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Luke 24:39

ewtn.com/v/bible/search_bible.asp RSV CE
 
notforgotten said:
Ok, this will be at the time of the resurrection of the dead. I can believe that.
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And we’ve also quoted Church Councils, papal exhortions, and sections of the Catechism that confirm that Jesus ascended body and soul into heaven and that Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven.
 
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.”

Apostles Creed
 
To be clear, we don’t know exactly how they exist bodily in heaven, as if it’s some physical platform in the clouds for them to walk on or some other dimension. I don’t know if we can even properly speak of them existing in some local time or space comparable to our experience. But neither does that mean their bodies have been put on “hold” until the end times. They exist in body and soul “now”, insofar as that can make sense, in spiritual and bodily communion with God (Jesus being God and Mary fully in His presence and being made holy by Him), but more than that is rather a mystery.
 
Wesrock said:
Yes… full of spirit, conformed to Christ, in total love of God. But it will be actual, physical bodies. He does noy mean “made of spirit” or phantasms.

catholic.com/tract/resurrection-of-the-body

Fourth Lateran Council: Although he is immortal and unable to suffer according to his divinity, he was made capable of suffering and dying according to his humanity. Indeed, having suffered and died on the wood of the cross for the salvation of the human race, he descended to the underworld, rose from the dead and ascended into heaven. He descended in the soul, rose in the flesh, and ascended in both. He will come at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, to render to every person according to his works, both to the reprobate and to the elect. All of them will rise with their own bodies, which they now wear, so as to receive according to their deserts, whether these be good or bad; for the latter perpetual punishment with the devil, for the former eternal glory with Christ.

ewtn.com/library/councils/lateran4.htm#list

CCC 1016 By death the soul is separated from the body, but in the resurrection God will give incorruptible life to our body, transformed by reunion with our soul. Just as Christ is risen and lives for ever, so all of us will rise at the last day.

1017 "We believe in the true resurrection of this flesh that we now possess" (Council of Lyons II: DS 854). We sow a corruptible body in the tomb, but he raises up an incorruptible body, a “spiritual body” (cf ⇒ 1 Cor 15:42-44).
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I can see that Jesus rose in both spirit and flesh. But that doesn’t mean that He is now in flesh.
 
notforgotten said:
I can see that Jesus rose in both spirit and flesh. But that doesn’t mean that He is now in flesh.
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His risen body - is the* same risen body*.

Paul points to what to help us understand our resurrected bodies? His glorious body.

Our bodies will be changed to be like “his glorious body”.

The very same glorious body he rose with (he did not get a new one after he ascended!)

What is that body like?

Jesus the risen Lord said -

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Luke 24:39

ewtn.com/v/bible/search_bible.asp RSV CE

and it can appear and disappear…and look completely different (road to emmaus) when he wanted…
 
CCC 663 Henceforth Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father: “By ‘the Father’s right hand’ we understand the glory and honour of divinity, where he who exists as Son of God before all ages, indeed as God, of one being with the Father, is seated bodily after he became incarnate and his flesh was glorified.”

Still researching…
 
Wesrock said:
CCC 663 Henceforth Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father: “By ‘the Father’s right hand’ we understand the glory and honour of divinity, where he who exists as Son of God before all ages, indeed as God, of one being with the Father, is seated bodily after he became incarnate and his flesh was glorified.”

Still researching…
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Catechism

How do the dead rise?

997 What is “rising”? In death, the separation of the soul from the body, the human body decays and the soul goes to meet God, while awaiting its reunion with its glorified body. God, in his almighty power, will definitively grant incorruptible life to our bodies by reuniting them with our souls, through the power of Jesus’ Resurrection.

998 Who will rise? All the dead will rise, "those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment."552

999 How? Christ is raised with his own body: “See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself”;553 but he did not return to an earthly life. So, in him, “all of them will rise again with their own bodies which they now bear,” but Christ “will change our lowly body to be like his glorious body,” into a “spiritual body”:554
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But someone will ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?" You foolish man! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body which is to be, but a bare kernel. . . . What is sown is perishable, what is raised is imperishable. . . . The dead will be raised imperishable. . . . For this perishable nature must put on the imperishable, and this mortal nature must put on immortality.555
1000 This “how” exceeds our imagination and understanding; it is accessible only to faith. Yet our participation in the Eucharist already gives us a foretaste of Christ’s transfiguration of our bodies:
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Just as bread that comes from the earth, after God's blessing has been invoked upon it, is no longer ordinary bread, but Eucharist, formed of two things, the one earthly and the other heavenly: so too our bodies, which partake of the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, but possess the hope of resurrection.556
scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a11.htm
 
Bookcat said:
His risen body - is the* same risen body*.

Paul points to what to help us understand our resurrected bodies? His glorious body.

Our bodies will be changed to be like “his glorious body”.

The very same glorious body he rose with (he did not get a new one after he ascended!)

What is that body like?

Jesus the risen Lord said -

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Luke 24:39

ewtn.com/v/bible/search_bible.asp RSV CE

and it can appear and disappear…and look completely different (road to emmaus) when he wanted…
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So, the Church believes that Jesus is spirit and now in some supernatural glorified body made of flesh and bone?
 
notforgotten said:
So, the Church believes that Jesus is spirit and now in some supernatural glorified body made of flesh and bone?
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Same resurrected and glorified body.

His resurrected body forever…

The “made of flesh and bone” - can confuse you if you think it means that his body is like yours right now. It not the same as my body now.
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It is glorified -this reality transcends anything we have experience of.*

Yes he can appear to you now and say the same thing to you as he did to his apostles.

“See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones as you see that I have.” "

Can can also disappear or appear in a locked room.
 
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