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I found this excerpt from the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich… what does it mean, does anyone know? 😦

A NEW CHURCH UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PLANETARY SPIRITS.

September 12, 1820. - "I saw a fantastic, odd-looking church being built. The choir was in three parts, each raised some steps above the last; and under it was a deep vault full of fog. On the first platform of the choir was a seat; on the second, a basin of water; on the third, a table. I saw no angel helping in the construction, but numbers of the most violent planetary spirits dragging all sorts of things into the vault where persons in little ecclesiastical mantles received them and deposited them in their various places. Nothing was brought from above; all came from the earth and the dark regions, all was built up by the planetary spirits. The water alone seemed to have something holy about it. I saw an enormous number of instruments brought into the church, and many persons, even children, had different tools, as if trying to make something; but all was obscure, absurd, dead! Division and destruction reigned everywhere. - Near by, I saw another church, shining and rich with graces from on high, angels ascending and descending. In it were life and increase, tepidity and dissipation ; and yet it was like a tree full of sap compared with the other which was like a chest of lifeless institutions.

The former was like a bird on the wing, the latter, like a paper dragon, its tail adorned with ribands and writings, dragging over a stubble-field. I saw that many of the instruments in the new church, such as spears and darts, were meant to be used against the living Church. Every one dragged in something different, clubs, rods, pumps, cudgels, puppets, mirrors, trumpets, horns, bellows-all sorts of things. In the cave below (the sacristy) some people kneaded bread, but nothing came of it; it would not rise. The men in the little mantles brought wood to the steps of the pulpit to make a fire. They puffed and blew and labored hard, but the fire would not burn; all they produced was smoke and fumes. Then they broke a hole in the roof and ran up a pipe, but the smoke would not rise, and the whole place became black and suffocating. Some blew the horns so violently that the tears streamed from their eyes. All in this church belonged to the earth, returned to the earth, all was dead, the work of human skill, a church of the latest style, a church of man’s invention like the new heterodox church in Rome."

November 12, 1820.-" I passed over a dark, cold country to a large city, and I saw again the great, odd-looking church with nothing holy about it and innumerable planetary spirits laboring at it. I saw it in the same way that I see a Catholic institution being erected, angels, saints, and Christians all laboring in common ; only here the concurrence of the laborers was shown under forms more mechanical. The planetary spirits ascended and descended and shot down rays upon the workmen; but all was done in accordance with human reason. I saw a spirit on high drawing lines and tracing figures, and down below the design, the plan immediately carried out."
 
I’m not sure but it reads as pretty interesting in Archictecture.

Does it imply something about the Angelic Heirarchy within/in the Orthodox Church? . .
 
I found this excerpt from the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich… what does it mean, does anyone know? 😦

A NEW CHURCH UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PLANETARY SPIRITS.

September 12, 1820. - "I saw a fantastic, odd-looking church being built. The choir was in three parts, each raised some steps above the last; and under it was a deep vault full of fog. On the first platform of the choir was a seat; on the second, a basin of water; on the third, a table. I saw no angel helping in the construction, but numbers of the most violent planetary spirits dragging all sorts of things into the vault where persons in little ecclesiastical mantles received them and deposited them in their various places. Nothing was brought from above; all came from the earth and the dark regions, all was built up by the planetary spirits. The water alone seemed to have something holy about it. I saw an enormous number of instruments brought into the church, and many persons, even children, had different tools, as if trying to make something; but all was obscure, absurd, dead! Division and destruction reigned everywhere. - Near by, I saw another church, shining and rich with graces from on high, angels ascending and descending. In it were life and increase, tepidity and dissipation ; and yet it was like a tree full of sap compared with the other which was like a chest of lifeless institutions.

The former was like a bird on the wing, the latter, like a paper dragon, its tail adorned with ribands and writings, dragging over a stubble-field. I saw that many of the instruments in the new church, such as spears and darts, were meant to be used against the living Church. Every one dragged in something different, clubs, rods, pumps, cudgels, puppets, mirrors, trumpets, horns, bellows-all sorts of things. In the cave below (the sacristy) some people kneaded bread, but nothing came of it; it would not rise. The men in the little mantles brought wood to the steps of the pulpit to make a fire. They puffed and blew and labored hard, but the fire would not burn; all they produced was smoke and fumes. Then they broke a hole in the roof and ran up a pipe, but the smoke would not rise, and the whole place became black and suffocating. Some blew the horns so violently that the tears streamed from their eyes. All in this church belonged to the earth, returned to the earth, all was dead, the work of human skill, a church of the latest style, a church of man’s invention like the new heterodox church in Rome."

November 12, 1820.-" I passed over a dark, cold country to a large city, and I saw again the great, odd-looking church with nothing holy about it and innumerable planetary spirits laboring at it. I saw it in the same way that I see a Catholic institution being erected, angels, saints, and Christians all laboring in common ; only here the concurrence of the laborers was shown under forms more mechanical. The planetary spirits ascended and descended and shot down rays upon the workmen; but all was done in accordance with human reason. I saw a spirit on high drawing lines and tracing figures, and down below the design, the plan immediately carried out."
It does sound like something you would see in a mystery/action movie.
 
“Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing
from a servant, though he be lord of all;
But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the
father.
Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the
elements of the world:
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son,
made of a woman, made under the law,
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the
adoption of sons …
But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God,
how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye
desire again to be in bondage?
Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not
injured me at all.” (Gal 4:1-5, 9-12)

“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the whichthe heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of
persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein
the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and
a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent
that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.”
(IIPet 3:10-14)3

I believe she references elemental spirits…

BP
 
I think she’s talking about demons there… but what I meant to ask is, what is this “new church” that she is speaking of.

Some people would say it’s the Church after VII, but then - where is the true living Church that is mentioned being beside it? Another idea is that it’s describing all the attacks and abuses upon the Church around VII and afterwards, - all the falsehood that is going around now, - but the Papacy still stands. Another idea is freemasonry: jloughnan.tripod.com/forgery.htm

any thoughts?
 
"The water alone seemed to have something holy about it. "
Code:
    Earth,  wind,  fire and water  were  the elements of  nature to the ancients.  But these writings are not scripture.    I  will  check your reference.

 I know  John.   Did you read  that page?    That whole passage is falsified  and is to be disregarded.   No wonder it is so confusing.    I still think planentary sprits are elemental spirits.
BP
 
From the link:
Hopefully, you can now see how terribly misleading the material quoted on your website is. Sister Emmerich here is clearly talking about PROTESTANT churches, and the quotes Dupont spliced together to question the validity of the New Mass have nothing whatever to do with the subject matter.
What is behind your posting this private revelation? How are any of us able to interpret it? Why would you want us to? Why would you believe our opinion, even if we offered it? This is very spiritually unhealthy for your to speculate on these spurious revelations, to which you seem overly attracted.

Please note that NONE of her private revelations were the cause of Sr. Emmerich being elevated to the altar as “venerable.”
 
I have no idea. It is private revelation so the Church has not interpreted it, either. Why do you need to know? Is it relevant for your salvation? No? I thought not.
 
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