What drew you to the Latin Mass?

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lcg101 said:
I know my own reasons for finding solace in the Latin Mass range from the consistent reverence in accordance with the sanctity of the Real Presence to actual sacred music, but I am always interested in why other people have either 1) stayed with it after growing up attending Latin Mass or 2) chosen it of their own free will.

My heart used to skip a beat when the choir sporadically sang ‘Agnus Dei’ at the NO parish I attended, and when someone informed me that was common practice at the Latin Mass parish, and that I could have that heartbeat-skip with *every song *at ***every mass ***at the Latin Mass parish … I was hooked.
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I am a fairly recent convert to Catholicism and I knew I wanted the Latin Mass even before formally entering the Church… I think for me it’s the reverence, the music too, the way we can receive the Eucharist kneeling, the attention to detail, etc… also - I’ve met many great priests who do the Novus Ordo Mass, - but the priests at the Latin Mass parishes I’ve been to are awesome, and are good spiritual directors too… 🙂 and there is Confession before every Mass! 👍
 
Stylites said:
That’s sad to hear, Robert.
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You know, believe it or not, some people were very affected by what happened in the sixties. Lest anyone here pounces on me, I said “some” and not “all”.

Robert came back; how many never did?
 
Lormar said:
You know, believe it or not, some people were very affected by what happened in the sixties. Lest anyone here pounces on me, I said “some” and not “all”.

Robert came back; how many never did?
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They weren’t from the sixties, but the Society of Saint Pius X still haven’t returned. I think that when Pope Benedict XVI said that Summorum Pontificum would help restore unity in the Church, he wasn’t just talking about groups like the SSPX, but also to individuals like Robert.
 
Well I’m 22 years old. Fairly newbie to the Latin Mass. I literally found out 2 years ago that there was a Latin Mass because my girlfriend attended one in downtown Houston. When I learned that it was the Mass hundreds of years old I was just in awe. I knew NOTHING about the Latin Mass until then. When I discovered the Mass I honestly felt cheated. It was a well kept secret and completely unavailable where I’m from but ever since I attended my spirituality strengthened. Facing east, Gregorian chant, beautiful vestments…I could go on and on but what I loved most was the reverence. It was quiet, people were there to pray. Quite different from the social loud kumbaya guitar masses in my area. While that may help people at my Church, the TLM suited me much more. So I gotta thank my girlfriend

…or truly was it not God who drew us all to the TLM?
 
ajpirc said:
They weren’t from the sixties, but the Society of Saint Pius X still haven’t returned. I think that when Pope Benedict XVI said that Summorum Pontificum would help restore unity in the Church, he wasn’t just talking about groups like the SSPX, but also to individuals like Robert.
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I don’t understand your comment. Please explain. I have nothing to do with the SSPX,
 
Lormar said:
I don’t understand your comment. Please explain. I have nothing to do with the SSPX,
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You asked how many people still haven’t come back to the Church because of Vatican II’s reforms. One of the reasons why Pope Benedict XVI is bringing back the Tridentine Mass is to bring groups like the SSPX back into communion with the Church. But it isn’t just groups, it’s also individuals like Robert.

Hope that clarified it.
 
Stylites said:
That’s sad to hear, Robert.
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But he returned to the Church, so why is that sad? Some people are misguided, others come in due to the wrong reasons, ie. they are married to a Catholic so feel obligated to join, but through the process their hearts are converted.
 
rben20 said:
Well I’m 22 years old. Fairly newbie to the Latin Mass. I literally found out 2 years ago that there was a Latin Mass because my girlfriend attended one in downtown Houston. When I learned that it was the Mass hundreds of years old I was just in awe. I knew NOTHING about the Latin Mass until then. When I discovered the Mass I honestly felt cheated. It was a well kept secret and completely unavailable where I’m from but ever since I attended my spirituality strengthened. Facing east, Gregorian chant, beautiful vestments…I could go on and on but what I loved most was the reverence. It was quiet, people were there to pray. Quite different from the social loud kumbaya guitar masses in my area. While that may help people at my Church, the TLM suited me much more. So I gotta thank my girlfriend

…or truly was it not God who drew us all to the TLM?
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Could not agree more with you with what I highlighted.
 
laszlo said:
If the new form Mass would sing Gregorian always, and would be prayed with full reverence, would you prefer the Latin or the English what you can hear and feel?
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Latin. There’s something about praying in the language of the Doctors of the Church… also, in the few languages I’ve studied it becomes apparent that meanings are changed as you translate from one language to another. So even the most well-intentioned vernacular translation still loses some of the original intent in the Latin wording … I just love tradition, especially in the context of my beloved faith.

And while I mention these frequently, the entire experience of TLM is beyond the music, it’s beyond the language. TLM is a statement of adherence to a way of life. This is no-bars-hold Catholic. It’s Catholic to the extreme degree… it’s not going to be confused with a Protestant worship service and people won’t be able to say “If it’s not one religion, it’s another” and include this radically different way of worship in that statement. It’s being Catholic for keeps. And that’s what attracts me to it. It’s the real deal. Our faith has withstood countless enemies, from the time of Christ to now. It’s nothing to be ashamed of; we have every reason to proclaim it from the rooftops, and now what we see most often is Catholicism attempting to blend in? To mix in with the mash of non-denominational jargon and allow Catholics to act in ways that are not in accordance with the tradition of their faith? It bothers me, particularly living in the part of the US known as ‘The Bible Belt’, that certain Catholics I know have taken to speaking of their Mass as ‘service’ and the Eucharist as ‘communion’.

This is where I struggle.

I suppose in that regard I still struggle with the acceptance of the NO because I have witnessed what its ‘watering down’ (for lack of better term) affects, particularly after having gone to TLM. I just don’t understand how the kumbayah style music is enhancing anyone’s spirituality. Music should enhance the liturty, not detract. And at the NO masses I have been to (with few exception; read, one), that has not been the case.
rben20 said:
When I discovered the Mass I honestly felt cheated. It was a well kept secret and completely unavailable where I’m from but ever since I attended my spirituality strengthened.
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I felt the same way. It’s good to know that from this point on we are charged with the task of helping others find the comfort and solace in what God has led us to!
 
lcg101 said:
**Latin. There’s something about praying in the language of the Doctors of the Church… also, in the few languages I’ve studied it becomes apparent that meanings are changed as you translate from one language to another. So even the most well-intentioned vernacular translation still loses some of the original intent in the Latin wording … I just love tradition, especially in the context of my beloved faith.

And while I mention these frequently, the entire experience of TLM is beyond the music, it’s beyond the language. TLM is a statement of adherence to a way of life. This is no-bars-hold Catholic. It’s Catholic to the extreme degree… it’s not going to be confused with a Protestant worship service and people won’t be able to say “If it’s not one religion, it’s another” and include this radically different way of worship in that statement. It’s being Catholic for keeps. And that’s what attracts me to it. It’s the real deal. Our faith has withstood countless enemies, from the time of Christ to now. It’s nothing to be ashamed of; we have every reason to proclaim it from the rooftops, and now what we see most often is Catholicism attempting to blend in? To mix in with the mash of non-denominational jargon and allow Catholics to act in ways that are not in accordance with the tradition of their faith? It bothers me, particularly living in the part of the US known as ‘The Bible Belt’, that certain Catholics I know have taken to speaking of their Mass as ‘service’ and the Eucharist as ‘communion’.

This is where I struggle.

I suppose in that regard I still struggle with the acceptance of the NO because I have witnessed what its ‘watering down’ (for lack of better term) affects, particularly after having gone to TLM. I just don’t understand how the kumbayah style music is enhancing anyone’s spirituality. Music should enhance the liturty, not detract. And at the NO masses I have been to (with few exception; read, one), that has not been the case.

I felt the same way. It’s good to know that from this point on we are charged with the task of helping others find the comfort and solace in what God has led us to!**
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I would have to agree only with what’s bold. (It’s ALL bold!!! :D)

But then you will get people that say, “It’s not about the traditions, it’s about the faith in Christ at Mass.” <----- My liberal pastor will say this all day!!! People that say this are trying to destroy our Catholic Faith, the Mass, and our beautiful traditions.

I would just tell those people that without our traditions, our Catholic Faith becomes a bland Protestant faith. With our traditions, our Catholic Faith becomes the radiant, vivid, and enhanced Faith that the Church has kept for 2,000 years.

The Catholic Faith with tradition is like a TV with HD. 😃
 
Hello to the thread. I hope you all don’t mind, but I’d like to turn the question around and ask for your help.

I am not a fan of the Latin Mass…but would like to learn to love it as I do the current vernacular Mass. I find that while watching the Daily Mass on EWTN, (which has gone pretty Latin these days) I get lost. I like praying along with both the congregational and priestly prayers…in English.

I started as an altarboy in 1970; according to all of my older cousins, I was very lucky not to have needed to learn all the prayers in Latin. Now who’s laughing?

Here’s the question: Can anyone direct me to a web-source to find the entire Latin Mass along with the English (preferably, right beneath the Latin)? I’ve been down many dead-ends in my searching on the web.

Thanks,

Glennonite
 
Glennonite said:
Here’s the question: Can anyone direct me to a web-source to find the entire Latin Mass along with the English (preferably, right beneath the Latin)? I’ve been down many dead-ends in my searching on the web.
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Would this help?

rickmk.com/Mass/masstext.html

Note that this is the Traditional Latin Mass or EF or Usus Antiquior. The OF can also be said completely or partly in Latin. I’m sure that there will be websites giving Latin-English of the OF when the new English is implemented.
 
ProVobis said:
Would this help?

rickmk.com/Mass/masstext.html

Note that this is the Traditional Latin Mass or EF or Usus Antiquior. The OF can also be said completely or partly in Latin.
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Thanks, is this the format of our daily Mass today and tomorrow? I will bookmark this site in either case, but what I would like first, is a way to start speaking the Latin Mass today.

By the way a lot of people use: OF, EF, and TRO, or BLT…what are you guys talking about!? 🙂

Thanks,

Glennonite
 
Glennonite said:
Thanks, is this the format of our daily Mass today and tomorrow? I will bookmark this site in either case, but what I would like first, is a way to start speaking the Latin Mass today.

By the way a lot of people use: OF, EF, and TRO, or BLT…what are you guys talking about!? 🙂

Thanks,

Glennonite
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OF-Ordinary Form
EF-Extraordinary Form
TRO-no clue
BLT-Bacon Lettuce Tomato
 
Glennonite said:
Hello to the thread. I hope you all don’t mind, but I’d like to turn the question around and ask for your help.

I am not a fan of the Latin Mass…but would like to learn to love it as I do the current vernacular Mass. I find that while watching the Daily Mass on EWTN, (which has gone pretty Latin these days) I get lost. I like praying along with both the congregational and priestly prayers…in English.
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Hi Glennonite, yeah it’s true that the EWTN daily Mass uses a good bit of Latin these days, but it’s still actually quite a bit different than the traditional Latin Mass. If you can spare a few hours, you can watch videos of whole traditional Masses online to see what they are like.

If you want to do this, here are some links you might appreciate. I would like to add, however, that watching a video is very different than being there. Also don’t expect to be able to follow everything right away. It takes some time and, for adults, some study is useful.

youtube.com/watch?v=enWiFcsBqIE
youtube.com/watch?v=3eb0R-edS3Y
ewtn.com/liturgy/traditional/Archive.htm
 
Will_S said:
Hi Glennonite, yeah it’s true that the EWTN daily Mass uses a good bit of Latin these days, but it’s still actually quite a bit different than the traditional Latin Mass. If you can spare a few hours, you can watch videos of whole traditional Masses online to see what they are like.

If you want to do this, here are some links you might appreciate. I would like to add, however, that watching a video is very different than being there. Also don’t expect to be able to follow everything right away. It takes some time and, for adults, some study is useful.
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Thank you, Will

I will check these links.

Why do you (or anyone else who might be following this link) suppose the Pope and the Church are trending back toward Latin? There must be something other than asthetics, or being uniquely-Catholic, or being better-than the vernacular Mass.

I wonder if we will retain the option of English Masses in the future…

Thanks again,

Glennonite
 
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