What drew you to the Latin Mass?

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I went to my 2nd Extraordinary Form Mass yesterday, and I understood a bit more compared to my first time a few weeks ago. They did have the red books to follow along. I loved the reverence and quiet of the EF Mass, and wished my local diocese would have one.
 
I went to my 2nd Extraordinary Form Mass yesterday, and I understood a bit more compared to my first time a few weeks ago. They did have the red books to follow along. I loved the reverence and quiet of the EF Mass, and wished my local diocese would have one.
It gets a lot better, especially as you understand what each part of the mass signifies.
 
I love the Latin Mass becaues of its reverence and focus on Jesus, not each other. Going to Liturgy is not a social gathering folks.

Also while the priests speaks in Latin, I feel I can whisper and speak the translated words in English to God. I actually feel more of a participant in the Latin Mass as supposed to the Novus ordo where I feel like I am just one of the crowd that follows along. Also I dont like how the Novus Ordo is so vulnerable to Liturgical abuse. I would skip Novus Orgo Masses altogether if it were not for one thing: Jesus is still present in the Eucharist, but aside from that there is not much…certainly not much reverence that Jesus is present there.
 
I went to my 2nd Extraordinary Form Mass yesterday, and I understood a bit more compared to my first time a few weeks ago. They did have the red books to follow along. I loved the reverence and quiet of the EF Mass, and wished my local diocese would have one.
I think one never stops learning about the Mass. And in the Latin Mass, you get to learn some Church Latin too. One can never learn too much. 👍
 
Yes, I do agree there as I knew more of what was going to happen when now compared to my first time…
It gets a lot better, especially as you understand what each part of the mass signifies.
 
I was born in the 1950s, and was not raised a Roman Catholic. However, my mother (who left the church in the 1940s) had a lot of family members, very unassimilated Italian Catholics who were incredibly upset at “the changes” (as they called them). I used to overhear, as a child, their discussions around Nonna’s dinnertable…I remember my uncle especially, saying (with sarcasm), “Oh yeah! The Church that ‘never changes’!”

All of then left the Church in 1970, after the novus ordo was introduced (and it wasn’t even that bad back then, from what I later learned!) I learned about the pre-Vatican II church from them, and their memories spurred me to investigate the RC church as a teenager.

The end result was I became a Roman Catholic in 1978, through a regular, novus ordo parish…but left shortly thereafter because I’d hoped to find at least some semblance of “the old ways”. But I was eternally thankful to the old priest who catechised me for a year (they didn’t have classes back then; he met with me, one on one, weekly). He showed me the modernist catechism the parish often used, and Father had said, "This is the catechism they want me to use with you…but this is the one we’re going to use instead (and he reached into a drawer of his desk and took out an old Baltimore Catechism!) He hated the changes too, in the church, but he told me he stayed out of obedience.

Anyway, a neighbor, to whom I shared my dilemma of wanting the TLM, told me of a group of Traditional Catholics who held a Tridentine Latin Mass in a suburban motel called the Ramada Inn. I took 3 buses to get there, fell in love with Traditional Catholicism, and kept going.

Then, the priest died, and they moved the Mass location much further away, near where another priest lived. I couldn’t go anymore, so I then found a SSPX Mass to go to, also held in a motel.

Eventually, they bought a church building and stopped having Masses in the motel. Because their new bldg was even further from me, I stopped going (I have never learned to drive due to a health issue I have and have to rely on buses for travel.)

I remembered the Tridentine priest telling us that if we ever can’t find the TLM, we could go to the Byzantine Catholic Liturgy, since they did not change the words of consecration over the wine, as the NO did. So I found a local Byzantine Catholic parish, went there for many years, and loved it!

But then we had to move to another state, and there wasn’t one nearby, so again, I was churchless.

I didn’t mean to get into ALL of that, just wanted to give my background of how I found Traditional Catholicism, including the TLM. I will say that times now are MUCH MUCH different and better than those horror days of the 1970s! You folks now are so fortunate that you can just go to a local parish in many cases, and have a TLM. But those first Traditional Catholics, they pioneered the way for all of you to have it so much easier now. If not for them being holdouts as they were, things would not have progressed to the point where they are today.
 
since they did not change the words of consecration over the wine, as the NO did.
Technically, the Vatican or Pope didn’t change the words of consecration (not substantially, anyway) with the N.O. or O.F. The bishops approved a controversial English translation which went into effect even before the the 1970 Mass was promulgated.
 
Technically, the Vatican or Pope didn’t change the words of consecration (not substantially, anyway) with the N.O. or O.F. The bishops approved a controversial English translation which went into effect even before the the 1970 Mass was promulgated.
I know, but it was still changed, wasn’t it? In the NO don’t they still say, “pro vobis et pro omnis” (for you and for ALL)? The actual words of Christ (and the words in the Tridentine Mass, Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy and also the Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy, as well as many of the other most ancient liturgies) say, “For you and for MANY”.
 
I know, but it was still changed, wasn’t it? In the NO don’t they still say, “pro vobis et pro omnis” (for you and for ALL)? The actual words of Christ (and the words in the Tridentine Mass, Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy and also the Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy, as well as many of the other most ancient liturgies) say, “For you and for MANY”.
They never said “pro vobis et pro omnes” or “pro vobis et pro omnibus” anywhere. The Vatican’s “pro vobis et pro multis” wasn’t changed in the EF or Latin OF. It was simply mistranslated in the English Mass so you heard “for you and for all (men).”
 
I was born in the 1950s, and was not raised a Roman Catholic. However, my mother (who left the church in the 1940s) had a lot of family members, very unassimilated Italian Catholics who were incredibly upset at “the changes” (as they called them). I used to overhear, as a child, their discussions around Nonna’s dinnertable…I remember my uncle especially, saying (with sarcasm), “Oh yeah! The Church that ‘never changes’!”

All of then left the Church in 1970, after the novus ordo was introduced (and it wasn’t even that bad back then, from what I later learned!) I learned about the pre-Vatican II church from them, and their memories spurred me to investigate the RC church as a teenager.

The end result was I became a Roman Catholic in 1978, through a regular, novus ordo parish…but left shortly thereafter because I’d hoped to find at least some semblance of “the old ways”. But I was eternally thankful to the old priest who catechised me for a year (they didn’t have classes back then; he met with me, one on one, weekly). He showed me the modernist catechism the parish often used, and Father had said, "This is the catechism they want me to use with you…but this is the one we’re going to use instead (and he reached into a drawer of his desk and took out an old Baltimore Catechism!) He hated the changes too, in the church, but he told me he stayed out of obedience.

Anyway, a neighbor, to whom I shared my dilemma of wanting the TLM, told me of a group of Traditional Catholics who held a Tridentine Latin Mass in a suburban motel called the Ramada Inn. I took 3 buses to get there, fell in love with Traditional Catholicism, and kept going.

Then, the priest died, and they moved the Mass location much further away, near where another priest lived. I couldn’t go anymore, so I then found a SSPX Mass to go to, also held in a motel.

Eventually, they bought a church building and stopped having Masses in the motel. Because their new bldg was even further from me, I stopped going (I have never learned to drive due to a health issue I have and have to rely on buses for travel.)

I remembered the Tridentine priest telling us that if we ever can’t find the TLM, we could go to the Byzantine Catholic Liturgy, since they did not change the words of consecration over the wine, as the NO did. So I found a local Byzantine Catholic parish, went there for many years, and loved it!

But then we had to move to another state, and there wasn’t one nearby, so again, I was churchless.

I didn’t mean to get into ALL of that, just wanted to give my background of how I found Traditional Catholicism, including the TLM. I will say that times now are MUCH MUCH different and better than those horror days of the 1970s! You folks now are so fortunate that you can just go to a local parish in many cases, and have a TLM. But those first Traditional Catholics, they pioneered the way for all of you to have it so much easier now. If not for them being holdouts as they were, things would not have progressed to the point where they are today.
I LOVE that you shared your history. I always like to hear about how it was in the old days. Thank you. 🙂
 
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