What good would the SSPX bring to the Church?

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What I’ve noticed in my limited experience is that most “traditionalists” who attend the TLM have issues with the NOM. Most believe the TLM is more efficacious, reverent, etc. They might not go around saying it to those who attend the OF, but they discuss it among themselves.

One difference between the FSSP and the SSPX is that you won’t find any verbiage on the FSSP site criticizing the new mass. It was probably part of the agreement when they were founded.

I’m not sure the SSPX will agree to not criticize the NOM.
Indeed not on the website BUT Fr Ripperger, who is a professor at the fraternitys american seminary does do so on his website sensustraditionis.org/.
If he can do it, theres no reason the SSPX would be forced to not critcise the NO.
 
Brother Jr is this true? I know for one that The institute of the Good Sheperd has an absolute good exception written into its statutes and approved by the Vatican which states that it will never be asked nor will it ever have to celebrate the Novus Ordo Further Fr Ripperger of the FSSP and Proffessor at their American Seminary would appear to disagree as regards having to celebrate the Novus Ordo, he himself has made it clear that he would not do so.

Therefore Brother Jr respectfully I do not believe this restriction would be imposed by the Vatican as it has not been imposed by the Vatican on other groups who have had their relation with Rome normalised (such as The Institute of the Good Shepered), several FSSP priests do not believe they have to do and Rome would not impose on the SSPX a condition they would never agree to.

Respectfully therefore I believe you are mistaken regarding this absolute necessity for them to celebrate the NO if so asked.
There’s a couple of differences though, jmj. In the case of the Franciscans, their Rule cannot be changed. Period. I’m fairly certain that Societies of Apostolic Life on the other hand, can have their statutes and rules changed based on mitigating circumstances. If the Pope says “we need to change something”, it can change. That includes saying the Ordinary Form, despite statutes saying otherwise.

pnewton had a great example of a time when this could happen.
 
Indeed not on the website BUT Fr Ripperger, who is a professor at the fraternitys american seminary does do so on his website sensustraditionis.org/.
If he can do it, theres no reason the SSPX would be forced to not critcise the NO.
You can criticize how some people execute it, but there’s zero reason to criticize it’s validity and to say “it’s intrinsically worse”.

“the New Mass still remains a sacrilege, and it is still in itself sinful” is not an acceptable criticism (nor is it a valid one).
 
*You will of course realise that the word used was ‘invalid’ not ‘evil’ or ‘wrong’ there is a world of difference between ‘invalid’ and ‘wrong’. An invalid mass would mean transubstantiation did not take place and those attending it were no better off than if they’d attended a protestant ‘communion service’, ‘evil’ or ‘wrong’ accepts its validity whilst criticising the rubrics and prayers etc… of the mass. These distinctions are well known so you have no excuse for not knowing them *

I would like to respond to this comment of yours above:

Perhaps you did not see the direct quote from SSPX website which I used in my fraternal correction of your incorrect claims about SSPX views of the NOM

So, I’ll reprint them again here:

The SSPX teaches now and has ALWAYS taught that the Novus Ordo Mass is evil and they have strongly asserted that they will NEVER say a Norus Ordo Mass, any of them.

It is matter of great pride to many of them, including Archbishop Lefebvre that they have never said a Novus Ordo Mass and they never will.

**“Therefore, these Masses can be of doubtful validity, and more so with time.”

taken directly from the SSPX website.**

In addition, the exact wording of their condemnation of the NOM is not “wrong” as you have paraphrased, it is EVIL. Further there is another word used, which is POISONOUS.

Let us be honest and clear, your original claim, referring to the top of the page, was that SSPX merely found the NOM “less efficatious,” than the Tridentine Rite.

The SSPX roundly condemns the NOM, refuses staunchly to ever say such a mass, attend such a mass (except as a nonparticipant for a wedding or funeral), and believes it to be intrinsically evil and poisonous to people of good faith.

All of this information is currently, and has always been readily available to anyone who might want to know the SSPX position on the NOM. Just view their website.

I don’t think we need to further play semantic games by introducing their feelings about the “validity” of the mass, after they’ve claimed it is evil and poisonous and no one should attend them, but even if you want to parse and split…they have ALSO said that the mass is doubtfully valid, and the likelihood of its invalidity grows buy the day…
Again you are misunderstanding and placing matters entirely out of context. The SSPX states that the NO can be of doubtful validity for two reasons:
1)Because of significant changes in the rite of mass itself, i.e. the ommision of ‘this is the mystery of faith’ and previously ‘for all’ rather than 'for many
2)Because the priests intentions are not made clear or so they argue and therefore they argue one must merely trust that the priest has the intention of what the church does as it is not explicit in the mass itself.

What the SSPX does not say is that the NO is not valid or that it is always of doubtful validity, therefore your sweeping statement that the SSPX does not believe the NO is valid is simply false

The rest of your post has already been answered but you clearly did not read the answer. To say that something is ‘evil’ or ‘bad’ does not mean it is invalid, a person may make a valid argument that is bad or evil, a rule may be valid but evil or wrong etc… In short bad and evil are not synonyms of invalid.

Further you must understand that these comments were made in the context of such travesties as clown masses, western masses and liturgical creativity which the Vatican itself has denounced. In this context it is clear the SSPX accepts the validity of the NO in a strict sense i.e. that it can produce the effects of the sacrament of Mass The only group of Catholics who believe that the NO is not a valid mass are those who believe there is not a valid pope, not the SSPX or any other groups I know of

As your nonsense about semantic games, I am afraid no one is playing semantic games simply pointing out facts which do not reconcile with your SSPX bashing opinion, the claims the SSPX are different only in order, or extent from those of many priests of the FSSP not, in kind. That is the claims are essentially an extension of the claim made by many priests in societies with entirely normal relations with rome that the NO is less efficacious than the TLM. Therefore must one be careful not to distort the facts.
 
  1. Cardinal Levada did say that the preamble is not up for negotiations. It’s a take it or leave it. He has said that he has no intention of going over these talks any further. His voice is final on this matter. This has always been the case. The Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of the Faith always has the final word in any internal dialogue. Popes rarely overrule them. It has not been done in hundreds of years and I don’t see Pope Benedict doing it now.
Brother JR

This does not appear to be the opinion of several Vatican officials.

la-croix.com/Religion/Urbi-Orbi/Rome/Rome-publiera-le-Preambule-doctrinal-en-cas-d-accord-avec-les-integristes-NP-2011-10-06-720130 translated here

gloria.tv/?media=201354

Nor is it the opinion of the Society rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2011/10/trying-to-make-sense-of-things.html

Therefore respectfully I question whether the document is non amendable
 
2)Because the priests intentions are not made clear or so they argue and therefore they argue one must merely trust that the priest has the intention of what the church does as it is not explicit in the mass itself.
We can’t tell the intent of any Priest though, including at an EF Mass.
What the SSPX does not say is that the NO is not valid or that it is always of doubtful validity, therefore your sweeping statement that the SSPX does not believe the NO is valid is simply false
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“Much to the contrary, they are objectively sacrilegious, even if those who assist at them are not aware of it”

"It can be an objectively mortal sin of sacrilege if Holy Communion is distributed in the hand or by lay ministers, "

“However, regardless of the gravity of the sacrilege, the New Mass still remains a sacrilege, and it is still in itself sinful. Furthermore, it is never permitted to knowingly and willingly participate in an evil or sinful thing, even if it is only venially sinful”

“Consequently, it is not permissible for a traditional Catholic, who understands that the New Mass is insulting to Our Divine Savior, to assist at the New Mass”
You could have fooled me with comments like that.
 
There’s a couple of differences though, jmj. In the case of the Franciscans, their Rule cannot be changed. Period. I’m fairly certain that Societies of Apostolic Life on the other hand, can have their statutes and rules changed based on mitigating circumstances. If the Pope says “we need to change something”, it can change. That includes saying the Ordinary Form, despite statutes saying otherwise.

pnewton had a great example of a time when this could happen.
Which would require the Pope stating that the Institute of the Good Sheperd in fact did have to celebrate the NO, however in accepting the statutes it is clear that the Holy Father does not believe this to be true. Lets we forget these statutes were only agreed upon within the last few years, I believe in 2008. They therefore reflect the current position of the Vatican and besides The statutes clearly state that the priests of the institute will never be required to celebrate the NO and cannot be asked to do so, further the Vatican has repeatedly assured them that this is the case.

All this being so it is simply not plausible that the Vatican would force the society to hold a position it does not itself hold and which it knows the society would never accept.
 
We can’t tell the intent of any Priest though, including at an EF Mass.

“Much to the contrary, they are objectively sacrilegious, even if those who assist at them are not aware of it”

"It can be an objectively mortal sin of sacrilege if Holy Communion is distributed in the hand or by lay ministers, "

“However, regardless of the gravity of the sacrilege, the New Mass still remains a sacrilege, and it is still in itself sinful. Furthermore, it is never permitted to knowingly and willingly participate in an evil or sinful thing, even if it is only venially sinful”

“Consequently, it is not permissible for a traditional Catholic, who understands that the New Mass is insulting to Our Divine Savior, to assist at the New Mass”
You could have fooled me with comments like that.

What does these comments prove? 🤷 Nothing, the SSPX believes the NO is valid but ‘wrong’ even ‘evil’. That is all. Can someone actually find a single sweeping statement that the SSPX believes all NO masses are invalid or the rite of mass is itself invalid? If not people should realise that continuing to make these claims without evidence is commiting calumy, which regardless of our disagreements with the person or organisation is still wrong.
 
Which would require the Pope stating that the Institute of the Good Sheperd in fact did have to celebrate the NO, however in accepting the statutes it is clear that the Holy Father does not believe this to be true. Lets we forget these statutes were only agreed upon within the last few years, I believe in 2008. They therefore reflect the current position of the Vatican and besides The statutes clearly state that the priests of the institute will never be required to celebrate the NO and cannot be asked to do so, further the Vatican has repeatedly assured them that this is the case.

All this being so it is simply not plausible that the Vatican would force the society to hold a position it does not itself hold and which it knows the society would never accept.
Accepting statues means consent and approval, eh? The Companions of the Cross had their statues approved not too long ago as well, and those statues include charismaticism. This must also reflect the current position of the Vatican on charismaticism, and be seen as a ringing endorsement for charismaticism and the charismatic renewal.

If push came to shove, all of these statues can be changed or temporarily removed. In the case of the Dominicans, there are some things that one has to do. But, there is a provision that in time of great need statues can be dispensed with so that something critical can get done. These are not done lightly, it isn’t advertised much, but it can happen. There’s probably something similar with the Institute of the Good Shepard.
 
What does these comments prove? 🤷 Nothing, the SSPX believes the NO is valid but ‘wrong’ even ‘evil’. That is all. Can someone actually find a single sweeping statement that the SSPX believes all NO masses are invalid or the rite of mass is itself invalid? If not people should realise that continuing to make these claims without evidence is commiting calumy, which regardless of our disagreements with the person or organisation is still wrong.
*The change in the translation from the words of Our Lord, “for many” to the ecumenically acceptable “for all” throws at least some doubt on the validity of the form. *

Doubtful validity. Not outright saying it’s invalid, but they say it’s doubtful.

Consequently, the doubt of invalidity for lack of intention, especially in the case of manifestly modernist priests, cannot be easily lifted or removed.

They’re saying here that these doubts about the validity cannot easily be lifted, so they’re pretty concerned about the OF being valid.

Consequently nobody has the obligation to satisfy his Sunday obligation by attending the New Mass, even if there is no other alternative.

So concerned, they’re basically saying at this point if you can’t make it to the EF, don’t go to Mass at all.

However, even if we could be certain of the validity of the Novus Ordo Masses celebrated in today’s Conciliar churches, it does not follow that they are pleasing to God. Much to the contrary, they are objectively sacrilegious, even if those who assist at them are not aware of it.

So really, even if they ARE valid (which they really, really doubt), they’re sacrilegious. So it’s for the best just to stay at home Sunday, do a spiritual communion, and watch football instead of going to the OF. Which I guess works for me, the Bills are 4-2 so far this year.
 
Brother JR, is there such a thing as a completely traditional parish or does it have to remain a chapel if the priests only want to celebrate the EF?
I can see where this might rarely happen.

We had a substitute priest this weekend. I spoke to him about what he wanted for the Mass. His answer was the same I always get, namely, celebrate the Mass the was we always do and he would adapt. I can easily see where a situation might arise where an SSPX priest might occassionally be asked to fill in for a parish when an unforseen emergency arises. In that case, it would be expected that he celebrate the Mass form that was already used there.

Of course, I would hope that those who assist would be accommodating to reasonable requests by that priest.
Brother Jr is this true? I know for one that The institute of the Good Sheperd has an absolute good exception written into its statutes and approved by the Vatican which states that it will never be asked nor will it ever have to celebrate the Novus Ordo Further Fr Ripperger of the FSSP and Proffessor at their American Seminary would appear to disagree as regards having to celebrate the Novus Ordo, he himself has made it clear that he would not do so.

Therefore Brother Jr respectfully I do not believe this restriction would be imposed by the Vatican as it has not been imposed by the Vatican on other groups who have had their relation with Rome normalised (such as The Institute of the Good Shepered), several FSSP priests do not believe they have to do and Rome would not impose on the SSPX a condition they would never agree to.

Respectfully therefore I believe you are mistaken regarding this absolute necessity for them to celebrate the NO if so asked.
We have to separate two things here. This is one good reason why the lay faithful need to back off on this issue, because most of us do not know enough about parochial law and laws that govern institutes of consecrated life and societies of apostolic life, since these are not made known to the general public, for very good reason. What’s that old saying about too many cooks?

The Church does not oblige any secular priest to celebrate one form of the mass or another. Therefore, a priest of the SSPX or the FSSP cannot be forced any more than the priest who belongs to a diocese. These are secular men, not consecrated men. They are protected by SP and UE.

That being said, if they take on diocesan owned parishes, they enter into an agreement with the local bishop. The local bishop has the duty to protect the rights of the faithful. If a parish has always had mass in the Ordinary Form and now has either the FSSP or the SSPX offering to take up that parish, they must provide the OF mass. They can’t eliminate it. However, no one can force a priest to celebrate it. Therefore, the bishop and the superior must find a way of meeting the needs of the people without violating the rights of the priest. This can be done in several ways. The priests of the society can volunteer to celebrate that mass, as do some of the FSSP or a priest can come from the outside to celebrate it. Fr. Ripperger and I are not at odds with each other at all. Father cannot be commanded to celebrate either form. He’s a secular priest, not a consecrated priest. He benefits from the protection of SP and UE. He can say that he will not celebrate the OF. He cannot deny the faithful the OF, nor can he tell his priests that they should refuse to do so. This is his choice and the Church respects that. If an individual FSSP priest agrees to celebrate the OF, he cannot be stopped by the FSSP. That’s why some FSSP do both forms. The FSSP is neither an order nor a congregation. They are a secular clerical institute of apostolic life.

Good Shepherd is not a society of apostolic life as are SSPX or FSSP. Good Shepherd is an Institute of consecrated life. These are consecrated religious of Pontifical Right. Like the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, Franciscans, Dominicans, Augustinians and other consecrated men, they follow the Ordinary Law of their institute. Good Shepherd has it written into their statutes and approved by the Holy See that they celebrate only the EF. What is not allowed to any of them, be it the consecrated priests and the secular priests is to proselytize for the EF and against the OF. The must uphold what SP says that both forms are expressions of the Latin Rite and are equally holy and valid.

This is what happened with the Franciscans. They cannot write into their constitutions that they will only celebrate the EF, because they are consecrated men. In the Franciscan tradition, the highest authority after St. Francis is always the general chapter. However, the general chapter cannot vote on something that St. Francis would disapprove. The vote would be invalid and the Holy See will not accept such a statute. St. Francis’ mandate is very clear; you do as the local bishop asks and don’t ask questions.

However, Canon Law does not allow bishops to dictate to consecrated men what they do outside of diocesan ministries. In addition, UE and SP are very clear that the major superior makes the final call on this matter. Any Franciscan who is a priest may celebrate the EF in private, provided he has permission to celebrate a private mass, in any form. They may not celebrate the EF with a congregation, unless they have permission from the major superior. They may not celebrate it as the conventual mass unless the chapter votes in favor of it. In this case, the superior or the chapter can stop a friar from celebrating the EF in public. It can even disallow permission to celebrate mass at all. This rarely happens. It’s a safeguard built into the rule to protect the community from clericalization.
 
As far as a chapel is concerned, everything depends on whether the chapel belongs to the diocese or to the institute. If the chapel belongs to the diocese, it must operate according to the wishes of the bishop. If it belongs to the institute, then it operates according to the norms that govern the institute. Obviously, there are points in Canon Law, SP, UE, and the Sacred Congregation for Institutes of both: Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, Ecclesia Dei, the constitutions of the institutes, the vision of the founder and other agreements that enter into the picture here. Most of the faithful are not privy to all of these laws, regulations, indults, and constitutions that play into the final arrangements. That’s why I’ve been saying that the laity should back off this subject and let the SSPX and the Vatican sort through this. Stop acting like the kid at Christmas who wants to get a sneak preview of what’s under the tree. We’ll find out in good time. Jeesh, so impatient and so curious about things that we have no voice in anyway. At the end of the day, if the SSPX and the Vatican agree that the SSPX will celebrate mass in ancient Greek, wearing togas, guess what? We have to live with it.

For this reason, I said in my previous post that it all depends on the setup that you have. The setup is part of the agreement that you make with the Vatican. Bishops cannot override these agreements. Look at Opus Dei, the Military Ordinariate, the Anglican Ordinariate, even the Oriental Churches that are under the oversight of the Latin bishops. There are parameters that the bishops must respect. However, there are also parameters that each institute must respect.

The big thing right now is to stop the proselytizing. We do not have two Churches and two Latin Rites. There is only one Latin Catholic Church and only one Roman rite with two expressions. Everyone on board must profess this and hold this to be true. They are equal in dignity, efficaciousness, validity, and holiness. Everyone must hold this to be true. When they are celebrated correctly, they are part of the living tradition of the Church. Everyone must hold this to be true. Everyone is allowed to have a preference without impunity. No one should be singled out or punished for a preference, unless you belong to a religious order. The laity does not belong to religious orders; neither do secular priests. They don’t have to worry about penalties and consequences in this regard.

The other thing that will be coming up soon is going to be a request from religious superiors of men asking the Holy Father to set the record straight concerning consecrated men. It seems that with this whole tug of war over the EF and OF, many lay people are placing too much stress on the mass and ignoring the vision, mission and charism of the religious life, to the detriment of the religious. Basically, the religious superiors would like to see the faithful reminded of the Right of Exemption granted to the orders by the Council of Trent. Under the Right of Exemption, neither the laity nor the local bishop may ask religious priests, brothers or sisters for anything that is contrary to their laws. This is especially true on such matters as the form of the liturgy that the institute uses, the use of habits, the use of language and other customs. It boils down to this. If you belong to a parish run by Vincentians and the Vincentian superior wants his men to do things in a particular way and Rome approves, you must comply. If you cannot comply, you are free to leave the parish and find another. However, you may not contradict the Vincentian superior. He has rights given to him by the Holy See and the bishop agreed, in your name, to respect those rights and regulations when he offered them the parish. You cannot call wrong what the Church calls right. You can say that you don’t like the flavor. That’s OK. I hate Mint Chocolate Chip ice cream. But it’s not bad.

As you can see, there is a lot here. It’s very intricate. For that reason, I believe that we’re better off not speculating what is in the preamble, what the SSPX is going to say, what the regulations governing the relationship between the SSPX and the Vatican are going to be. For all we know, the Vatican can create new regulations on the spot to meet the needs of the situation as it did with the Jesuits in the 1500s, the Opus Dei in the 1900s and the Anglicans in this century. We can’t handcuff the papacy. The papacy can handcuff us, but not the other way around. At the end of the day, the papacy has the final word. That final word is not going to come until we hear from the SSPX.

Put aside the speculation. Put aside the arguments and the apologia for one side or the other. It’s getting ridiculous that we can’t speak about these things as the saints would speak about them, with great respect, kindness and trust. It does no honor to God or to the Church, to defend one position or another at the expense of good manners, which is the sister of charity.

St. Anthony of Padua was one of the foremost preachers against heresy. However, he was the most polite and kind brother to heretics. When he met a person in error, he always reminded himself that he had erred many times and he remembered Francis words, “any Franciscan who engages in argumentation, even to defend the faith, sins gravely against charity.” Argumentation is not the way to do things.

We have too much arguing and not enough washing of each other’s feet.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
Put aside the speculation. Put aside the arguments and the apologia for one side or the other. It’s getting ridiculous that we can’t speak about these things as the saints would speak about them, with great respect, kindness and trust. It does no honor to God or to the Church, to defend one position or another at the expense of good manners, which is the sister of charity.

St. Anthony of Padua was one of the foremost preachers against heresy. However, he was the most polite and kind brother to heretics. When he met a person in error, he always reminded himself that he had erred many times and he remembered Francis words, “any Franciscan who engages in argumentation, even to defend the faith, sins gravely against charity.” Argumentation is not the way to do things.

We have too much arguing and not enough washing of each other’s feet.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Amen brother. Everything with charity.

I think it’s a shame that I can’t walk to a church 4 blocks from me for a vigil mass when I am unable to go to the parish I regularly attend.

Until the majority of OF masses are celebrated reverently, and I hope to see that day, there will always be criticism of the OF. However, it can be done in love.
 
Indeed not on the website BUT Fr Ripperger, who is a professor at the fraternitys american seminary does do so on his website sensustraditionis.org/.
If he can do it, there’s no reason the SSPX would be forced to not criticize the NO.
I believe that you’re treating Fr. Ripperger as if he were a consecrated man, which he is not. He is a secular priest. Observe that he makes his comments on his site, not on the official FSSP site. Any secular priest can hold any position he wants, as long as it’s not heresy. This does not mean that his diocese or his society agrees with him.
Brother JR

This does not appear to be the opinion of several Vatican officials.

la-croix.com/Religion/Urbi-Orbi/Rome/Rome-publiera-le-Preambule-doctrinal-en-cas-d-accord-avec-les-integristes-NP-2011-10-06-720130 translated here

gloria.tv/?media=201354

Nor is it the opinion of the Society rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2011/10/trying-to-make-sense-of-things.html

Therefore respectfully I question whether the document is non amendable
Several people in the Vatican has made these statements and many lay people have grabbed on to them as a hope that this will indeed happen that the preamble will be negotiable. At this point, it does not look that way unless the SSPX comes up with something that Cardinal Levada did not foresee and he agrees that it needs to be addressed. If Cardinal Levada digs in his heels, the SSPX would have to appeal directly to the Holy Father. The trick here, as I said before, very few popes have ever overruled the Sacred Congregation for the faith.

People are thinking that this preamble is flexible. However, Cardinal Levada’s office issued a statement that religious superiors and bishops received. In brief, it said that this was the Congregation’s conclusions. Conclusions are not the same as points for consideration. Knowing Cardinal Levada’s history, he’s not a man who likes to drag things out. If they come up with something that is missing in the Preamble, it would be fair to address it. If they simply say that they don’t like parr 3, art 4, the Cardinal may say, “That was our conclusion.”
Which would require the Pope stating that the Institute of the Good Sheperd in fact did have to celebrate the NO, however in accepting the statutes it is clear that the Holy Father does not believe this to be true.
All this being so it is simply not plausible that the Vatican would force the society to hold a position it does not itself hold and which it knows the society would never accept.
Again, you’re confusing consecrated men with secular men. The Institute of the Good Shepherd is not secular. They started out as a secular society and have evolved into a community. The FSSP and SSPX are simple secular clerics. They don’t fall under the same category as communities of consecrated men and women. They don’t have the same rights as consecrated men and women have. That would be like giving a celibate man the same rights as a married man. They are two very different vocations and are treated differently.

A community of consecrated life comes in two wrappers. There are orders, such as Franciscan and Benedictines. These have a rule handed down to them by the founder and no one can change that rule beyond the parameters set by the founder.

There are also congregations and communities on the way to becoming congregations. They are freer, because they are not bound by a rule revealed by Christ and handed down by the founder. Statutes that they write and vote on through a democratic process govern congregations. Then these are sent to the Holy Father for his approval. A congregation can write into its statutes that it will celebrate only the EF or the OF and all of its members are bound to obey once the Holy Father approves. Even in the case of the Good Shepherd, there are dioceses in which they are not allowed to celebrate the EF in public.

The FSSP and SSPX are not in the same category. They are neither an order or a congregation. The laity calls them an order. I have no idea why. The laws that apply to them are under the category of clerical societies of apostolic life. That’s a whole different set of laws for which there is a sacred congregation and which congregation can change the rules of the game without warning in order to meet the current needs.

The Sacred Congregation cannot change the rules and constitutions that govern consecrated men and women.

That’s the difference between the Good Shepherd and the SSPX. You can’t compare them, because the Good Shepherd is protected by the its status as an institute of Pontifical Right.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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