What Happened to Dogs?

[cute2904]

**STOPPING THE ANGELS’ VISIT **
From Bukhari Vol. 4, #448 -
Narrated Abu Talha: "I heard Allah’s Apostle saying; “Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).”
From BukhariVol. 7, #843 -
Narrated Salim’s father: "Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that. At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, “We do not enter a place in which there is a picture or a dog.”
Sahih Muslim : Book 024, Number 5246:
A’isha reported that Gabriel (peace be upon him) made a promise with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) to come at a definite hour; that hour came but he did not visit him. And there was in his hand (in the hand of Allah’s Apostle) a staff. He threw it from his hand and said: Never has Allah or His messengers (angels) ever broken their promise. Then he cast a glance (and by chance) found a puppy under his cot and said: 'A’isha, when did this dog enter here? She said: BY Allah, I don’t know He then commanded and it was turned out. Then Gabriel came and Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: You promised me and I waited for you. but you did not come, whereupon he said: It was the dog in your house which prevented me (to come), for we (angels) do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/024.smt.html#024.5295

KILLING BLACK DOG
From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540 -
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah’s Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.
From the Hadith of Abu Dawud - #2839 -
Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
From Sahih Muslim #3814 -
Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah’s messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. …[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.
From Sahih Muslim #3813 -
Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah’s messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah’s apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

 

[cute2904]

DOGS ANNULING PRAYER
From Bukhari Vol. 1, #490 -
Narrated 'Aisha: "The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).”

**WHAT TO DO WHEN DOG LICKS YOU **
Sahih Muslim : Book 002, Number 0546:
Abu Huraira reported the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) to have said: When a dog licks a utensil belonging to any one of you, (the thing contained in it) should be thrown away and then (the utensil) should be washed seven times.
Sahih Muslim : Book 002, Number 0549:
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: The purification of the utensil belonging to any one of you, after it is licked by a dog, lies in washing it seven times, using sand for the first time.
Sahin Muslim : Book 002, Number 0551:
Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/002.smt.html#002.0462

I love dog. I agree dogs are men’s best friend and should not be killed. Moreover the pure black ones . Poor puppies! :nope:

 

[DaveBj]

Dogs and pigs are considered almost equally unclean. I can understand why pigs are so considered (came out of the culture of the area), but I’ve never read an explanation of why dogs are.

A friend of mine (American) used to go jogging in his Cairo neighborhood with Sam, his large lab retriever. He was not well loved by his neighbors

On the other hand, Muhammad is reputed to have cut the sleeve off a robe so as not to disturb a sleeping cat. I knew there was something about that man that I liked

DaveBj (owned by two cats)

 

[manx]

I know that in the Philippines, a predominantly Catholic country, take the dog as more than just a man’s best friend - it’s their **MAIN DISH ** during their drinking sprees! yaaayks!

 

[cute2904]

manx:

I know that in the Philippines, a predominantly Catholic country, take the dog as more than just a man’s best friend - it’s their **MAIN DISH ** during their drinking sprees! yaaayks!

Yeah I heard about that too… yuuck!

 

[exoflare]

I hope this helps.

Muhammad and Dogs

 

[cute2904]

exoflare:

I hope this helps.
Muhammad and Dogs

Its helpful bob, thanks. Need muslims to explain about washing part of your body 7x that licked by the dog … is it true and are muslims now still doing such thing or no…

 

[davy39]

**STOPPING THE ANGELS’ VISIT **
From Bukhari Vol. 4, #448 -
Narrated Abu Talha: "I heard Allah’s Apostle saying; “Angels (of Mercy) do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or a picture of a living creature (a human being or an animal).”
From BukhariVol. 7, #843 -
Narrated Salim’s father: "Once Gabriel promised to visit the Prophet but he delayed and the Prophet got worried about that. At last he came out and found Gabriel and complained to him of his grief (for his delay). Gabriel said to him, “We do not enter a place in which there is a picture or a dog.”
Sahih Muslim : Book 024, Number 5246:
A’isha reported that Gabriel (peace be upon him) made a promise with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) to come at a definite hour; that hour came but he did not visit him. And there was in his hand (in the hand of Allah’s Apostle) a staff. He threw it from his hand and said: Never has Allah or His messengers (angels) ever broken their promise. Then he cast a glance (and by chance) found a puppy under his cot and said: 'A’isha, when did this dog enter here? She said: BY Allah, I don’t know He then commanded and it was turned out. Then Gabriel came and Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said to him: You promised me and I waited for you. but you did not come, whereupon he said: It was the dog in your house which prevented me (to come), for we (angels) do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/024.smt.html#024.5295

KILLING BLACK DOG
From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540 -
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah’s Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.
From the Hadith of Abu Dawud - #2839 -
Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
From Sahih Muslim #3814 -
Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah’s messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. …[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.
From Sahih Muslim #3813 -
Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah’s messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah’s apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

 

[davy39]

Well, according to them, I guess the angel of mercy will never enter our house. We have pictures of people and dogs all over the place. What do they have against Black Labs anyway? Very strange beliefs.

 

[manx]

davy39:

Well, according to them, I guess the angel of mercy will never enter our house. We have pictures of people and dogs all over the place. What do they have against Black Labs anyway? Very strange beliefs.

Well that’s faith. I guess when a Muslim is totally convinced that the Koran is from God and that Mohammad is a Prophet, then he/she follows blindly whatever is allowed, forbidden and all the information about the unseen.

I might be wrong. I will be glad if a Muslim corrects me.

 

[Ching_PBUH]

davy39:

Well, according to them, I guess the angel of mercy will never enter our house. We have pictures of people and dogs all over the place. What do they have against Black Labs anyway? Very strange beliefs.

Dogs have senses that man does not have. They can even detect the presence of spirits and jinns… mohammad may be himself flanked by jinns and growled at by dogs!

 

[manx]

Ching_PBUH:

Dogs have senses that man does not have. They can even detect the presence of spirits and jinns… mohammad may be himself flanked by jinns and growled at by dogs!

Will that statement help in bridging the gap between us and the Muslims? Or are we just going to make it worse? Let’s have some mercy and kindness here.

 

[ben_dy]

DaveBj:

Dogs and pigs are considered almost equally unclean. I can understand why pigs are so considered (came out of the culture of the area), but I’ve never read an explanation of why dogs are.

A friend of mine (American) used to go jogging in his Cairo neighborhood with Sam, his large lab retriever. He was not well loved by his neighbors

On the other hand, Muhammad is reputed to have cut the sleeve off a robe so as not to disturb a sleeping cat. I knew there was something about that man that I liked

DaveBj (owned by two cats)

Dave,

Dogs and pigs both shared the nature of being unclean in Judaism, as well - at least through the time of Christ (see 2Pe 2:22 - the two are mentioned together) and dogs are mentioned in the Gospels, as well, in a manner in which they might be considered unclean (even if you might read ‘domesticated’ into those passages).

And the OT is full of dogs being so unclean as to eat dead human flesh and blood. And there’s one reference to dogs and pigs again in Isaiah (too tired to look that one up!).

I’m not certain of what the modern Islamic culture has to say about dogs - I have Islamic friends and I’ve never given it much thought before but all are, if they have pets, cat people.

 

[ben_dy]

davy39:

Well, according to them, I guess the angel of mercy will never enter our house.

Same here - although I’ve none of those dogs-playing-poker-pictures which, in my opinion, are creepy!

 

[gurrato_alaien]

[What Happened to Dogs?]

it’s known that a dog can be owned for some lawful purposes. We are, however, not allowed to keep a dog as a “pet”, since it is not a very clean animal. You can read the following Fatwa to know the Shari`ah-based rulings on keeping dogs:

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547226

As for the findings of scientific research relative to keeping dogs, the prominent Muslim scholar, Sheik Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states in his well-known book, The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam:

"Some lovers of the West in Muslim countries claim to be full of love and compassion for all living creatures and they wonder why Islam warns against this “best friend” of man. For their benefit, we quote a lengthy excerpt from an article by the German scientist, Dr. Gerard Finstimer, in which the author sheds light on the dangers to human health resulting from keeping dogs or coming in contact with them. He says:

The increasing interest shown by many people in recent times in keeping dogs as pets has compelled us to draw public attention to the dangers which result from this, especially because pet dogs are hugged and kissed and permitted to lick the hands of the young and the old, and what is worse, to lick the plates and utensils which are used by human beings for eating and drinking.

Besides being unhygienic and uncouth, this practice is bad and abhorrent to good taste. However, we are not concerned with such matters, leaving them to be addressed by teachers of etiquette and good taste.

Rather this article is intended to present some scientific observations.

From the medical point of view, which is our main concern here, the hazards to human health and life from keeping and playing with dogs are not to be ignored. Many people have paid a high price for their ignorance, as the tapeworm carried by dogs is a cause of chronic disease, sometimes resulting in death.

This worm is found in man, in cattle, and in pigs, but it is found in fully-developed form only in dogs, wolves and rarely in cats. These worms differ from others in that they are minute and invisible; consequently, they were not discovered until very recently. Biologically, the developmental process of this worm has some unique characteristics. In the lesions caused by them, one worm gives rise to many heads which spread and form other and varied kinds of lesions and abscesses. These heads develop into full-grown worms only in dogs’ tonsils. In humans and in other animals they appear as lesions and abscesses completely different from the tapeworm itself. In animals the size of an abscess may reach that of an apple, while the liver of the infected animal may grow from five to ten times its normal size. In human beings the size of the abscess may reach that of a clenched fist or even the head of an infant; it is filled with yellow fluid weighing from ten to twenty pounds. In the infected human it may cause diverse kinds of inflammations in the lungs, muscles, spleen, kidneys, and brain, and appears in such different forms that specialists, until very recently, had difficulty in recognizing it.

In any case, wherever this inflammation is found, it poses great danger to the health and life of the patient. What is worse is that in spite of our knowledge of its life history, origin, and development, we have not been able to devise a cure for it, except that in some instances these parasites die out, possibly because of antibodies produced in the human body. Unfortunately, cases in which such parasites die without causing damage are rare indeed. Moreover, chemotherapy has failed to produce any benefit, and the usual treatment is surgical removal of the abscessed parts of the body. For all these reasons we should use all possible resources to fight against this dreadful disease and save man from its dangers.
to be cont…

 

[gurrato_alaien]

Cont…

Professor Noeller, through post-mortem dissection of human bodies in Germany, found that the incidence of infection with dogs’ worms is at least one percent. In some places such as Dalmatia, Iceland, southeastern Australia, and Holland, where dogs are used for pulling sleds, the incidence rate of tapeworm among dogs is 12 percent. In Iceland, the number of people who suffer from the inflammation caused by this worm has reached the rate of 43 percent. If we add to this the human suffering, the loss of meat because of infection of cattle, and the permanent danger to human health because of the presence of tapeworms, we cannot be very complacent toward this problem.

Perhaps the best way to combat the problem is to limit the worms to dogs and not let them spread, since in actuality we need to keep some dogs. We should not neglect to treat dogs when necessary by getting rid of the tapeworms in their tonsils and perhaps repeating this process periodically on shepherd dogs and watchdogs.

Man can protect his life and health by keeping a safe distance from dogs. He should not hug them, play with them, or let them come close to children. Children should be taught not to play with dogs or to fondle them. Dogs should not be permitted to lick children’s hands or come to places where they play. Unfortunately, dogs are allowed to roam about everywhere, especially in places where children play, and their bowls are scattered throughout the house. Dogs must have their own separate bowls, and they must not be allowed to lick bowls and plates used by humans. They should not be allowed inside grocery stores, restaurants, or marketplaces. In general, great care must be taken that they do not come in contact with anything which is used by people for eating and drinking.

We already know that the Prophet (peace and blessings be on him) forbade mixing with dogs, and that he warned against their licking plates and against keeping them without necessity. How is it possible that the teachings of an unlettered Arab, Muhammad, should agree with the latest findings of scientific research? Truly, we cannot say anything except to repeat the words of the Qur’an: “Nor does he speak from (his own) desire. It is nothing other than a Revelation sent down.” (An-Najm: 3-4)"

 

[exoflare]

gurrato alaien:

If we add to this the human suffering, the loss of meat because of infection of cattle, and the permanent danger to human health because of the presence of tapeworms, we cannot be very complacent toward this problem.

Yeah, I’m sure this “tapeworm” thing is a full-blown epidemic by now LOL
gurrato alaien:

Unfortunately, dogs are allowed to roam about everywhere, especially in places where children play, and their bowls are scattered throughout the house. Dogs must have their own separate bowls, and they must not be allowed to lick bowls and plates used by humans. They should not be allowed inside grocery stores, restaurants, or marketplaces. In general, great care must be taken that they do not come in contact with anything which is used by people for eating and drinking.

This stuff is just common sense! Touching a dog, and sharing its very same tableware are two totally different things that you’re trying to lump together.
gurrato alaien:

We already know that the Prophet (peace and blessings be on him) forbade mixing with dogs, and that he warned against their licking plates and against keeping them without necessity.

Does this mean I have to stop letting my pookie-bear “wash the dishes” with her tongue? Guess I’ll have to buy one of these newfangled washing machines I’m always hearing about.
gurrato alaien:

How is it possible that the teachings of an unlettered Arab, Muhammad, should agree with the latest findings of scientific research? Truly, we cannot say anything except to repeat the words of the Qur’an: “Nor does he speak from (his own) desire. It is nothing other than a Revelation sent down.” (An-Najm: 3-4)"

I can’t believe you’re serious. Nobody is this gullible.

 

[selvaraj]

Saudia, Aramco Eye Sniffer Dogs to Enhance Security
Mohammed Rasooldeen,
Arab News RIYADH, 20 November 2005 — The Kingdom has expressed interest in acquiring search dogs from Britain as part of its security program. David Lloyd, leader of a visiting 47-member British trade delegation told Arab News that Saudi Aramco and Saudi Arabian Airlines have shown interest in sniffer dogs from the United Kingdom.

arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=73448&d=20&m=11&y=2005&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom

In Christ,
selvaraj

 

[Rebecca_New]

Seems to me they should be more worried about our feathered friends than the dogs!

 

[exoflare]

Well I think they’re allowed to keep pigeons as pets. But DOGS, no, those are too full of disease…