What happens if you dont worship Jesus?

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Dear Community

I have been doing some serious thinking about the divinity of Jesus the Messiah. How did it come about that Christians began to worship Jesus? Was this belief practiced by ALL of the disciples of Jesus in ALL the Gospels?

Can you be saved if you don’t worship Jesus but worship the God that Jesus prayed to?

What is the Jewish and the Islamic belief regarding Jesus? And is it important to believe in Jesus to be saved even by these non Christians faiths?
 
It’s a violation of the greatest commandment, which is to love God will all your heart, soul and mind. The deity of Christ was part and parcel of the early Church’s beliefs. In the earliest Gospel [Mark], Jesus claims to be God. He heals a man and forgives him of his sins-- and we know that only God can forgive sins. In the Gospel of John, Thomas declares Jesus to be his Lord and his God-- and Jesus accepts it.

In Islam, it’s a requirement to believe in Jesus as a prophet and the Messiah. They don’t believe in the deity of Christ, though.
 
Dear Community

I have been doing some serious thinking about the divinity of Jesus the Messiah. How did it come about that Christians began to worship Jesus? Was this belief practiced by ALL of the disciples of Jesus in ALL the Gospels?
Yes, all true disciples worshipped him from the beginning. But there are false gospels that were floating around the early church. These people often did not view him as God. As far as the state of their souls, only God knows their hearts and motives.
Can you be saved if you don’t worship Jesus but worship the God that Jesus prayed to?
Depends on what the person has been exposed to. The invincibly ignorant can be saved. Jesus said he is the only way to the Father:
John 14:6New Living Translation (NLT)
6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.
There are no other paths.
What is the Jewish and the Islamic belief regarding Jesus? And is it important to believe in Jesus to be saved even by these non Christians faiths?
Judaism holds no definitive opinion on Jesus. A Jew told me that he was a false Messiah, one of many that were emerging in that era.

Islam believes in a different Jesus then revealed in the Gospels. And they think the “Injil” was corrupted by Paul and others. Their Jesus, named " Isa" is just a prophet of Allah and a Jewish Messiah, messenger only for the Jews…and he is second in line behind Muhammed who is the “seal” of their prophets. The Koran says “Isa” was not crucified, it was just made to appear to them that he was crucified. Instead, Allah lifted him up to heaven. And according to Islamic tradition he will come back to earth one day and die a normal death…and break crosses and kill swine to demonstrate all the falsehoods that were supposedly taught about him being the son of God, etc.

Yes, it’s important for both of those faith’s adherents to come to saving knowledge of the Lord’s Gospel message. There are no other paths to God.
 
Yes, all true disciples worshipped him from the beginning. But there are false gospels that were floating around the early church. These people often did not view him as God. As far as the state of their souls, only God knows their hearts and motives.

Depends on what the person has been exposed to. The invincibly ignorant can be saved. Jesus said he is the only way to the Father:

There are no other paths.

Judaism holds no definitive opinion on Jesus. A Jew told me that he was a false Messiah, one of many that were emerging in that era.

Islam believes in a different Jesus then revealed in the Gospels. And they think the “Injil” was corrupted by Paul and others. Their Jesus, named " Isa" is just a prophet of Allah and a Jewish Messiah, messenger only for the Jews…and he is second in line behind Muhammed who is the “seal” of their prophets. The Koran says “Isa” was not crucified, it was just made to appear to them that he was crucified. Instead, Allah lifted him up to heaven. And according to Islamic tradition he will come back to earth one day and die a normal death…and break crosses and kill swine to demonstrate all the falsehoods that were supposedly taught about him being the son of God, etc.

Yes, it’s important for both of those faith’s adherents to come to saving knowledge of the Lord’s Gospel message. There are no other paths to God.
Don’t you have to have faith that there are no other paths before saying that? And faith that he is God before worshiping him as one? I’m not even sure what exposure has to do with it. People can be exposed but lose the faith they were exposed to. Bottom line when we take away all the wrapping, it all comes down to one thing. Faith.
 
Don’t you have to have faith that there are no other paths before saying that? And faith that he is God before worshiping him as one? I’m not even sure what exposure has to do with it. People can be exposed but lose the faith they were exposed to. Bottom line when we take away all the wrapping, it all comes down to one thing. Faith.
I believe he was answering the question of salvation apart from belief in Christ. I guess I would presuppose a person already believing in Christ prior to asking the question, although that’s certainly not required.

If you believe in Christ, it would follow that you believe in His words --“No one can come to the Father except through Me.” That’s pretty straightforward. I can’t possibly know the state of someone’s soul, but I definitely know that I do not want to be the person who has to stand before God at the end of my life explain to Him why at one point I believed, yet decided to walk away.

I pray for all souls in that situation to return to the Lord with all their heart (Joel 2:12) before it is too late.
 
Don’t you have to have faith that there are no other paths before saying that? And faith that he is God before worshiping him as one? I’m not even sure what exposure has to do with it. People can be exposed but lose the faith they were exposed to. Bottom line when we take away all the wrapping, it all comes down to one thing. Faith.
There’s no one size fits all…each case is different.

The Church uses invincible ignorance as a valid excuse for one to not be a Christian. Meaning, you never rejected the gospel through any fault of your own. But once you hear and reject it, you now have some explaining to do with God if you die in such a state…
Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned
Generally speaking, we all need the Lord as no other name under heaven is a person saved. Acts 4:12
 
I believe he was answering the question of salvation apart from belief in Christ. I guess I would presuppose a person already believing in Christ prior to asking the question, although that’s certainly not required.

If you believe in Christ, it would follow that you believe in His words --“No one can come to the Father except through Me.” That’s pretty straightforward. I can’t possibly know the state of someone’s soul, but I definitely know that I do not want to be the person who has to stand before God at the end of my life explain to Him why at one point I believed, yet decided to walk away.

I pray for all souls in that situation to return to the Lord with all their heart (Joel 2:12) before it is too late.
Yeah, exactly, doesn’t mean God doesn’t hear them or love them. It just means there is only one official path to the most high.

Praying the Divine Mercy is something I need to do more often. Lord have mercy on us.
 
What concern is it of ours if infidels come up with lies and slanders against Christ an Our Lady?
 
Yeah, exactly, doesn’t mean God doesn’t hear them or love them. It just means there is only one official path to the most high.
I would say there is only one way period. The only other way to get to Heaven is by following Christ through invincible ignorance. However, knowing Christ’s Church and outright rejecting it is… dangerous, to say the least.
Praying the Divine Mercy is something I need to do more often. Lord have mercy on us.
Agreed. 100%

Lord, have Mercy on us!
 
Going into the second century (CE), there were three main sects who claimed to follow Prophet Isa ibn Maryam (AS); Catholics, Gnostics, and ‘Judaizers’. All three claimed to have received their teachings from the disciples of Isa ibn Maryam (AS), but to what extent differed. The Catholics claimed to have received the public teaching of the twelve and the seventy, and also had a developing hierarchy which was allegedly the intention of the disciples. The Gnostics were dualists who claimed to have received secret teachings from the twelve, and from Paul and his companions; their hierarchy developed fully after the appearance of the Persian ‘prophet’ Mani. The so called ‘Judaizers’ were Hebrews who followed the laws of the Torah and claimed to have received their teachings from the twelve, as well as James the Just, but rejected Paul and his companions as apostates.

Among the Catholics, Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was considered the logos, but against the Gnostics they claimed that the logos became flesh. Philo the Jew, was perhaps the first man to interpret scripture according to pagan philosophy, and influenced the School of Alexandria, which in turn developed the doctrine of the Trinity. It is also said that the Gnostic Valentinus first put forward the idea of three hypostases. Eventually there were two factions among the Catholics who differed, one faction said that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully divine, and the other (later referred to as the Arians) said that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was something between human and divine. And then the rest of Catholic Church history followed.

The Gnostics were dualists, which was a philosophical idea that possibly orignated in Persia, which viewed good and evil as equal and eternally conflicting forces. The Gnostics believed that all of creation was evil, and so God did not create the world, and that Isa ibn Maryam’s humanity was merely an illusion. Early Gnostics held a special regard for Paul, and Valentinus’ lineage went back to Paul.

Among the so called ‘Judaizers’ were three factions, all three believed that Isa ibn Maryam was a prophet and the Messiah. However, one group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully human with both a biological mother and father, the other group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully human but born of a virgin, and the third group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was divine (to what extent I am unsure).

In Islam, we believe that there is no god but Allah, and therefore there is none worthy of worship but Allah. One of Allah’s negating attributes is His Oneness, for were He to have a second then that would lead to diminshing His attributes of Power and Will, and without these nothing contingent would ever come into existence.

Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.” -Surah 21:22

We affirm the prohethood, messengership, and Messiahship of Isa ibn Maryam (AS), but we deny the Trinity, Incarnation and Hypostatic Union; for the latter are impossibilities according to reason and revelation.

And Allah knows best.
 
I would say there is only one way period. The only other way to get to Heaven is by following Christ through invincible ignorance. However, knowing Christ’s Church and outright rejecting it is… dangerous, to say the least.

Agreed. 100%

Lord, have Mercy on us!
Oh sure.

But take for example those Christians who converted from Islam or maybe the Jehovah Witnesses. It was their exposure to someone named Jesus in their faiths that was a stepping stone towards the true Christ. So in that sense, those faiths, even though they weren’t intended to be, ended up being a non official type path to Christ.
 
It is heresy. The Arian heresy denied the divinity of Christ.

Peace,
John Marie Philomena
 
Dear Community

I have been doing some serious thinking about the divinity of Jesus the Messiah. How did it come about that Christians began to worship Jesus? Was this belief practiced by ALL of the disciples of Jesus in ALL the Gospels?
The Bible says that worship is only to be given to God.

Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’ "

In the Bible there were examples of people kneeling down to apostles and angels, but this behavior was corrected.

Acts 10:25-26 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up. “Stand up,” he said, “I am only a man myself.”

Revelation 19:10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him [angel]. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.”

Revelation 22:8-9 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”

But Jesus is worshiped in the Bible.

Hebrews 1:6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”

Matthew 2:11 On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Matthew 8:2 A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

Matthew 9:18 While he was saying this, a synagogue leader came and knelt before him and said, “My daughter has just died. But come and put your hand on her, and she will live.”

Mark 5:6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him.

Matthew 14 32-33 And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. 33 Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

John 9:37-38 Jesus said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

Matthew 28 8-9 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.

Luke 24 While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. 52 Then they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy.

Jesus is worshiped because he is God.

Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”[g] (which means “God with us”).

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Colossians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

Philippians 2:6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;…10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
Can you be saved if you don’t worship Jesus but worship the God that Jesus prayed to?

What is the Jewish and the Islamic belief regarding Jesus? And is it important to believe in Jesus to be saved even by these non Christians faiths?
I think it is OK to address your prayers to God the Father instead of Jesus. All parts of the Trinity are God and can be prayed to. However the only way our sins can be removed and we can be made just and “saved” in God’s eyes is if we accept Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross to cover our sins.

1 John 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 3:16-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.

By accepting Jesus, we can know the Father.

John 14:6-10 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know** my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me**? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
 
Thank you community,
some of these comments where very helpful. But as for any learner once you get your questions answered, new questions arise.

When Jesus said I am the ONLY path to the Father, how does that make him God? I thought the purpose of this life is to return to God , that should be the goal, however if Jesus BRINGS you to God doesn’t that kind of make it difficult to believe that Jesus is God as well especially when Christianity teaches that it is a monotheistic religion?

I also learned from a post that it doesn’t really matter which person in the Holy Trinity I should pray to. If that’s the case, if I don’t believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God does that mean I commit a spiritual crime against the Bible and the teachings of Jesus? Do I go against his teachings when I don’t believe that Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are divine?
 
Going into the second century (CE), there were three main sects who claimed to follow Prophet Isa ibn Maryam (AS); Catholics, Gnostics, and ‘Judaizers’. All three claimed to have received their teachings from the disciples of Isa ibn Maryam (AS), but to what extent differed. The Catholics claimed to have received the public teaching of the twelve and the seventy, and also had a developing hierarchy which was allegedly the intention of the disciples. The Gnostics were dualists who claimed to have received secret teachings from the twelve, and from Paul and his companions; their hierarchy developed fully after the appearance of the Persian ‘prophet’ Mani. The so called ‘Judaizers’ were Hebrews who followed the laws of the Torah and claimed to have received their teachings from the twelve, as well as James the Just, but rejected Paul and his companions as apostates.

Among the Catholics, Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was considered the logos, but against the Gnostics they claimed that the logos became flesh. Philo the Jew, was perhaps the first man to interpret scripture according to pagan philosophy, and influenced the School of Alexandria, which in turn developed the doctrine of the Trinity. It is also said that the Gnostic Valentinus first put forward the idea of three hypostases. Eventually there were two factions among the Catholics who differed, one faction said that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully divine, and the other (later referred to as the Arians) said that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was something between human and divine. And then the rest of Catholic Church history followed.

The Gnostics were dualists, which was a philosophical idea that possibly orignated in Persia, which viewed good and evil as equal and eternally conflicting forces. The Gnostics believed that all of creation was evil, and so God did not create the world, and that Isa ibn Maryam’s humanity was merely an illusion. Early Gnostics held a special regard for Paul, and Valentinus’ lineage went back to Paul.

Among the so called ‘Judaizers’ were three factions, all three believed that Isa ibn Maryam was a prophet and the Messiah. However, one group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully human with both a biological mother and father, the other group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was fully human but born of a virgin, and the third group believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was divine (to what extent I am unsure).

In Islam, we believe that there is no god but Allah, and therefore there is none worthy of worship but Allah. One of Allah’s negating attributes is His Oneness, for were He to have a second then that would lead to diminshing His attributes of Power and Will, and without these nothing contingent would ever come into existence.

Had there been within the heavens and earth gods besides Allah , they both would have been ruined. So exalted is Allah , Lord of the Throne, above what they describe.” -Surah 21:22

We affirm the prohethood, messengership, and Messiahship of Isa ibn Maryam (AS), but we deny the Trinity, Incarnation and Hypostatic Union; for the latter are impossibilities according to reason and revelation.

And Allah knows best.
Thank you for your reply. However I am struggling with is that with my research on early Christianity I haven’t heard of any early Jewish sect that believed Jesus was born of a virgin. Could you clarify which group actually believed he was born of a virgin? (I am talking about the Jews who denied that Jesus was divine of course.)
 
Thank you community,
some of these comments where very helpful. But as for any learner once you get your questions answered, new questions arise.

When Jesus said I am the ONLY path to the Father, how does that make him God? I thought the purpose of this life is to return to God , that should be the goal, however if Jesus BRINGS you to God doesn’t that kind of make it difficult to believe that Jesus is God as well especially when Christianity teaches that it is a monotheistic religion?
Hi OBB

No, the Trinity is a systematically arrived at doctrine, for protestant Christians anyway. For us Catholics we would believe it based on the Church declaring it because they have the total deposit of the faith.

It’s not just John 14:6 telling us He is God.

We have many other verses such as the ones susanlo posted in post **#13 **telling us he accepted worship. Only GOD is to be worshipped.

Jesus also forgave sins. Only God can forgive sins:
Jesus Heals a Paralyzed Man
9 Jesus climbed into a boat and went back across the lake to his own town. 2 Some people brought to him a paralyzed man on a mat. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralyzed man, “Be encouraged, my child! Your sins are forgiven.”
3 But some of the teachers of religious law said to themselves, “That’s blasphemy! Does he think he’s God?”
4 Jesus knew[a] what they were thinking, so he asked them, “Why do you have such evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Is it easier to say ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or ‘Stand up and walk’? 6 So I will prove to you that the Son of Man** has the authority on earth to forgive sins.” Then Jesus turned to the paralyzed man and said, “Stand up, pick up your mat, and go home!”
7 And the man jumped up and went home! 8 Fear swept through the crowd as they saw this happen. And they praised God for giving humans such authority.**
Jesus claimed to be LORD of the sabbath. Only God is Lord of the sabbath
Mark 2:28

28 So the Son of Man is lord even of the Sabbath.
Jesus used the I AM title and the Jews wanted Him dead the second he did it. He was claiming to be God:
Exodus 3:14King James Version (KJV)
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am
hath sent me unto you.

John 8:58-59New Living Translation (NLT)

58 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I am![a]” 59 At that point they picked up stones to throw at him. But Jesus was hidden from them and left the Temple.

He claimed to be one with the Father:
John 10:30
I and the Father are one."
And there are other verses proving he is God as well…
I also learned from a post that it doesn’t really matter which person in the Holy Trinity I should pray to. If that’s the case, if I don’t believe Jesus and the Holy Spirit are God does that mean I commit a spiritual crime against the Bible and the teachings of Jesus? Do I go against his teachings when I don’t believe that Jesus nor the Holy Spirit are divine?
Let me just say, as a new Christian many years ago, I was not Trinitarian, at least not initially. I became one about 6 months into it by diligently studying the Gospels. If you have a sincere heart and seek God, and you study the scriptures, you will eventually believe in the Trinity.

So I wouldn’t worry much about where you or whoever is at the moment. If a person is sincerely seeking the God of this universe and he/she prayerfully studies the Gospels they will get there. Ask the Father to reveal to you if it is indeed true.
 
Thank you for your reply. However I am struggling with is that with my research on early Christianity I haven’t heard of any early Jewish sect that believed Jesus was born of a virgin. Could you clarify which group actually believed he was born of a virgin? (I am talking about the Jews who denied that Jesus was divine of course.)
The Ebionites, if I’m not mistaken, although some of them also denied the virgin birth as I already mentioned. It was the Nazarenes who believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was divine.
 
The Ebionites, if I’m not mistaken, although some of them also denied the virgin birth as I already mentioned. It was the Nazarenes who believed that Isa ibn Maryam (AS) was divine.
On the somewhere between divine you mentioned, ‘fully divine and fully human’ is the phrase we use. But I do see how that can seem confusing.

And as a side thing: From what I understand, Muslims beloeve Jesus was a normal human prophet whose teachings were corrupted. However, the big issue I took with histprically is that if such were the case, we would expect many documents, especially from the twelve apostles, talking about that, but we don’t even though there are documents from early church history. Just one issue I take with Islam’s claim in that matter.
 
On the somewhere between divine you mentioned, ‘fully divine and fully human’ is the phrase we use. But I do see how that can seem confusing.

And as a side thing: From what I understand, Muslims beloeve Jesus was a normal human prophet whose teachings were corrupted. However, the big issue I took with histprically is that if such were the case, we would expect many documents, especially from the twelve apostles, talking about that, but we don’t even though there are documents from early church history. Just one issue I take with Islam’s claim in that matter.
What I posted yesterday on the ‘What doesn’t make sense to you?’ thread:

“Why the Church did not use a more objective method in determining the canon of the New Testament, but instead seems to have chosen books from doctrinal bias. Why the authors of many books of the New Testament are unverifiable. Why the traditions of the Church are unverifiable, but instead are only testified to by secondary sources at best.”

It’s worth noting that it’s well known among the early church that the Gospel of Matthew was originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic. But was it know who translated it into Greek? No, not at all. So the church accepted a translation from an unknown translator. How do we know it’s been correctly translated? We don’t, I guess. The Ebionites and Nazarenes also possessed some Hebrew Gospels, how authentic they were and what their contents were, we don’t know, since they’re now lost.
 
Dear Community

I have been doing some serious thinking about the divinity of Jesus the Messiah. How did it come about that Christians began to worship Jesus? Was this belief practiced by ALL of the disciples of Jesus in ALL the Gospels?

Can you be saved if you don’t worship Jesus but worship the God that Jesus prayed to?

What is the Jewish and the Islamic belief regarding Jesus? And is it important to believe in Jesus to be saved even by these non Christians faiths?
It’s simply a matter of recognizing the truth when we see it, when we’ve seen Him in this case, whose divinity begins to shine through the more we look -and allow grace to do its part. He’s totally human, just another one of us, and yet there’s just no one like Him. As that truth begins to take set in our minds, love and worship increasingly become the order of the day. He won’t force us to acknowledge His beauty, His perfection, His goodness, His superiority, and yet we’re expected to admit to it once we’ve seen it.

Many, especially those in leadership roles, simply could not overcome their pride of position and bow to what stood in front of them. Echoes of Adam & Eve in Eden in a sense, with man now receiving a second chance. But, “They hated Me without reason”, Jesus said in John 15, quoting Psalms in reference to many of His contemporaries to describe the truth of their heart’s attitude towards Him and the Father. Anyway, justice demands that man bows to God when we’ve seen Him. And He’s patient in helping us do just that.

We already know; His image is impressed in our beings; it’s just a matter of recognizing the truth when we really see it, when it presents itself directly in front of us, which then places us in right relationship of created to Creator.

People who lack the knowledge of Christ for whatever reason can still be saved as they simply do the best with what they have in seeking and coming to know, love, and serve God.
 
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