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PrisonerOfChrist
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John chapter 6 is very clear. So what happens to them in the end? Will they still go to Heaven without the Eucharist while still trying to live a good Christian life?
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What Happens To Protestants That Don't Receive The Eucharist?
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TheLittleLady
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We trust them to the mercy of God.
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Hodos
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Protestants do receive the Eucharist. The question is whether they enjoy the full benefit if that denomination does not understand the promises inherent in Holy Communion when they receive it resulting in the increasing of their faith.
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PrisonerOfChrist
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Amen – we certainly do.
The Eucharist is a strong focal point in our faith and to think people still get to Heaven without it is something that baffles me. Jesus uses strong language in John 6 and yet…
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PrisonerOfChrist
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An increase in faith? Perhaps. Inherent in Holy Communion? No, it cannot be found in a piece of bread used only to commemorate.
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Hodos
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Um, yes it is. Unless you think that Christ’s faithfulness to his promise is dependent on you. If so, that’s an interesting take that isn’t really in line with 1 Corinthians 11.
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Hodos
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Disagree on both accounts. Would you care to point to the scriptural passage that supports these two claims?
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Vico
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Holy Communion increases sanctifying grace, so that would be lacking, however there could still be perfect contrition which forgives sins.
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PrisonerOfChrist
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I don’t know how easily achievable perfect contrition is. What about Protestants who don’t have perfect contrition?PrisonerOfChrist:
Holy Communion increases sanctifying grace, so that would be lacking, however there could still be perfect contrition which forgives sins.
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Vico
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The idea of attrition developed in the twelfth century. Serious (mortal) sin is not forgiven without repentance of charity - perfect contrition, which those with mere attrition should develop upon receiving absolution.Vico:
I don’t know how easily achievable perfect contrition is. What about Protestants who don’t have perfect contrition?PrisonerOfChrist:
Holy Communion increases sanctifying grace, so that would be lacking, however there could still be perfect contrition which forgives sins.
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The general feeling I’m getting (not in this forum, out in the world) is people get to heaven without the Eucharist more easily then what the Eucharist is given credit for.
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SeekerOfTruth7
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It can seem that way. Perhaps this is another purpose for Purgatory? Maybe a longer time spent in that state for purification? Perhaps the Eucharist gives us special grace that shortens the time, if any, that we may spend in that state? I don’t know but am throwing out ideas 
God bless!
God bless!
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SeekerOfTruth7
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Here is something I just read:
"Receiving the Eucharist is necessary for salvation of those that know the truth about the Eucharist. Therefore, a Catholic, who knows the teachings of the Church about the Eucharist, and who deliberately refuses to receive the Eucharist is putting their souls in grave danger. As adult Catholics, we are required to receive the Eucharist for our salvation, once we know the truth about it.
Yet, a non-Catholic who might not know the truth of the Eucharist or who might not believe it, even if he knows it, is not necessarily part of the normative requirement to receive the Eucharist as part of their salvation. Rather, the grace they receive through baptism is enough for their salvation." - St. Mary's Catholic Center
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"Receiving the Eucharist is necessary for salvation of those that know the truth about the Eucharist. Therefore, a Catholic, who knows the teachings of the Church about the Eucharist, and who deliberately refuses to receive the Eucharist is putting their souls in grave danger. As adult Catholics, we are required to receive the Eucharist for our salvation, once we know the truth about it.
Yet, a non-Catholic who might not know the truth of the Eucharist or who might not believe it, even if he knows it, is not necessarily part of the normative requirement to receive the Eucharist as part of their salvation. Rather, the grace they receive through baptism is enough for their salvation." - St. Mary's Catholic Center
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PrisonerOfChrist
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“Yet, a non-Catholic who might not know the truth of the Eucharist or who might not believe it, even if he knows it, is not necessarily part of the normative requirement to receive the Eucharist as part of their salvation. Rather, the grace they receive through baptism is enough for their salvation.”
Put this in the context of John 6 - would there be harmony between the two?
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SeekerOfTruth7
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Here is from Shameless Popery:
So it’s not the mere physical reception of the Sacrament that saves, or else those who received the Eucharist unworthily would be saved, not damned. And in fact, that sort of view of the Sacraments could make it possible to not believe in Jesus at all, not even be willing to receive Communion, and have someone save you by force-feeding you the Eucharist. Augustine argues that this is against the free nature of belief and of salvation: “A man can come to Church unwillingly, can approach the altar unwillingly, partake of the sacrament unwillingly: but he cannot believe unless he is willing. If we believed with the body, men might be made to believe against their will.”
I am not saying I agree completely, and I know exactly where you are coming from, but these are from people who I would say know much more than me in this area. But I do understand you
So it’s not the mere physical reception of the Sacrament that saves, or else those who received the Eucharist unworthily would be saved, not damned. And in fact, that sort of view of the Sacraments could make it possible to not believe in Jesus at all, not even be willing to receive Communion, and have someone save you by force-feeding you the Eucharist. Augustine argues that this is against the free nature of belief and of salvation: “A man can come to Church unwillingly, can approach the altar unwillingly, partake of the sacrament unwillingly: but he cannot believe unless he is willing. If we believed with the body, men might be made to believe against their will.”
I am not saying I agree completely, and I know exactly where you are coming from, but these are from people who I would say know much more than me in this area. But I do understand you
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PrisonerOfChrist
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Wouldn’t infant baptism be another form of “force-feeding” a sacrament?
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SeekerOfTruth7
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Good question! I am not really sure. But I feel like baptism and the Eucharist are two different sacraments, right? But it is a valid argument that i’ll have to research a bit.
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Thanks for your honesty 
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SeekerOfTruth7
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Circumcision brought you into the Old Testment Covenant with God. Circumcision did not garantee you would Spiritually live after death. God was greatly offended if a child was not circumcised on the eight day of life.
Baptism brings you into the New Testament Covenant with God. Baptism does not garantee you will go to heaven. Let the babies come to Jesus. “It is to just such as these that the kingdom of God belongs.”
From a thread called Baptism by force? Baptism by Force? - #8 by Fidelis
Baptism is like circumcision. The Eucharist is like the Passover meal. Two different sacraments with different effects. Makes sense to me.
Baptism brings you into the New Testament Covenant with God. Baptism does not garantee you will go to heaven. Let the babies come to Jesus. “It is to just such as these that the kingdom of God belongs.”
From a thread called Baptism by force? Baptism by Force? - #8 by Fidelis
Baptism is like circumcision. The Eucharist is like the Passover meal. Two different sacraments with different effects. Makes sense to me.
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PrisonerOfChrist
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unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; - John 6:53PrisonerOfChrist:
Holy Communion increases sanctifying grace, so that would be lacking, however there could still be perfect contrition which forgives sins.
This seems to be a very black and white statement. More than just merely increasing sanctifying grace. Either eat and live or don’t eat and die…
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