"What i have learnt on my jouney through life"

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There is a “kind of people” .

“There are those who live for flattery, compliments, fulfilment of desires, popularity and acceptance in the world view. This kind of person doesn’t live to please God, but lives to please the ideology of atheistic man, the man God. Some people are Good only as far as it benefits there existence, but as soon as something “GOOD” puts them in a bad light or embarrasses them in front of the “world view” , they shun it and discard it regardless of its wealth ( the wealth and love of God)”

Glory to God.
 
Careful, we can’t judge others too much, can’t say for sure what their motives are, what their heart is like etc., that is between them and God. (Though if you do notice that someone tends to shun what is good when it no longer benefits them, then you can get an idea of them by their fruits). Also, there may be some people who for a time are like you describe but then later turn their lives around.
 
I have found there are people at all levels of interest and “shallowness.” I cannot say one is superior to the other. I cannot even say that one person’s “atheism” is worse than my “faith,” in that it is not my place, will, or expertise to make that prouncement on their behalf. It is my place to believe that my faith is right for me, and if it isn’t to fix it. I cannot say a person is “good” or “bad” for their beliefs, and for that matter except to the degree my faith is weak not even for their behavior, as it is not mine to judge.

That said, I think that most people never feel the true freedom that Christ can bring, and that includes Christians. I have but tasted of it, and it changed my life to where I seek it most all the time. The same freedom, though, that allows me to find this peace allows the other person to be atheistic and I am personally OK with it.

Do I see a way to help these people – if they wish – to find a deeper, more meaningful existence? Yes, certainly, from my perspective at least. Then again, what I call a close relationship may be a totally frightening experience for them, and how do I know the means in which the Holy Spirit works in another creature; I’d be doing quite well just to know what the Spirit is expecting for me!

freesoulhope – I’m curious where you might wish to take this thread.

Alan
 
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Flopfoot:
Careful, we can’t judge others too much, can’t say for sure what their motives are, what their heart is like etc., that is between them and God. (Though if you do notice that someone tends to shun what is good when it no longer benefits them, then you can get an idea of them by their fruits). Also, there may be some people who for a time are like you describe but then later turn their lives around.
I agree, but by the same token, we can recognize in other how they’ve let their lives be full of the more worldly things, and apply this knowledge on how we ourselves can try to avoid this in our own quest towards living a life of holiness.
 
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freesoulhope:
There is a “kind of people” .

“There are those who live for flattery, compliments, fulfilment of desires, popularity and acceptance in the world view. This kind of person doesn’t live to please God, but lives to please the ideology of atheistic man, the man God. Some people are Good only as far as it benefits there existence, but as soon as something “GOOD” puts them in a bad light or embarrasses them in front of the “world view” , they shun it and discard it regardless of its wealth ( the wealth and love of God)”

Glory to God.
Sounds very much in accord with the homily our priest gave a couple weeks ago. We, with our weak sinful nature, too often live for the world and the aproval of those with a carnal view. Turn from the world to GOD, He has the true benefits.

Flopfoot, I didn’t see any judging, but an observation of how some live for the worldly things.

Kotton 🙂
 
What i wrote was purley an observation. I, like many before me and others in this world have lived for what the world wants and how the world thinks we should be. What God wants is in contradiction to what we want in terms of self satisfication. I have learnt that i sometimes (like many of us) have looked for kind words and popularity and i have tryed to fit in to the “world veiw”, instead of living for God. The world doesnt want God, the media and the tv is saturating are minds with one message, “be your own God”. If you havent got a flash car, your a nobody, if you havent Got good looks a big house your not worth speaking to. This is what we are taught, and untill we see God, we try to fit in to the world veiw because we think that is how we get respect and love from others, by being there pop idol. When you focus on God, you are not focusing on you self, you are not glorifing your self, you are not living for your self, you are living for God and what he wants rather then what you want.

Christians get luaghed at, ridiculed, down trodden, and looked down upon. This is because God is not a populor reality, people are either ignorant of God or they aspire to be there own God. To be your own God, is to live by your own understanding, your own customised rules and morals. “The world Veiw Rebukes God”

i am not acusing anybody of having this world veiw, i mearly stated that there is a “kind” of people. If your not living for God, your most likely living for what the world thinks is nomal and moral. If your not working for blessings from God, then you will desire things that are not of God and seek love from people. The likleyhood then would be that “people”, and what they think of you will become your God . When i lived by the world veiw i veiwed women as sexual objects and thought that it was moraly correct to use condoms and have sex before marrige. Even when i found God, i had a “customised idea” of Who God was and what he wanted. This is because i didnt study my faith, and untill recently, i was still undercontrol by the “world veiw”. Being a slave doesnt make anybody evil, it just means that there in danger of being brainwashed unless the eyes are firmly fixed on the allmighty. You cant be with God and be with the world. God said give Glory only to me.

For instance, Some Active homosexuals now wants to worship God and maintain a homosexaul life stlye. They do not want to Give up there worldy behavior, this is because they are ignorant of what God wants and are open to the “world veiw”. Some people are ignorant of what sexuality is and what it was made for. They are slaves to the idea that they are born to be as they are by the will of God. So they spend thier time trying to find loop holes in scripture, so they can serve God but remain actively gay at the same time. But the truth is, a man is only a man because a women is a women. Sexuality exists to serve a purpose, like everything else that exists in Gods creation. If the human race didnt have sexual organs we would not be sexualy attracted to eachother nor would we be man or women since this is defined by “sexuality” and the phenominom of procreation. There for sexaul desire and love follows a design or blue print, it is for a purpose. Yet despite this you will all ways find people who want it both ways, This is called customised morality, it is a world Veiw, and it is dangerous, most dangerous When people do not study God, and except correction.

You are either a slave of the world or a servent of God. Glory to the Father the son and the holy spirit.
 
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freesoulhope:
What i wrote was purley an observation. I, like many before me and others in this world have lived for what the world wants and how the world thinks we should be. What God wants is in contradiction to what we want in terms of self satisfication. I have learnt that i sometimes (like many of us) have looked for kind words and popularity and i have tryed to fit in to the “world veiw”, instead of living for God. The world doesnt want God, the media and the tv is saturating are minds with one message, “be your own God”. If you havent got a flash car, your a nobody, if you havent Got good looks a big house your not worth speaking to. This is what we are taught, and untill we see God, we try to fit in to the world veiw because we think that is how we get respect and love from others, by being there pop idol. When you focus on God, you are not focusing on you self, you are not glorifing your self, you are not living for your self, you are living for God and what he wants rather then what you want.

Christians get luaghed at, ridiculed, down trodden, and looked down upon. This is because God is not a populor reality, people are either ignorant of God or they aspire to be there own God. To be your own God, is to live by your own understanding, your own customised rules and morals. “The world Veiw Rebukes God”

i am not acusing anybody of having this world veiw, i mearly stated that there is a “kind” of people. If your not living for God, your most likely living for what the world thinks is nomal and moral. If your not working for blessings from God, then you will desire things that are not of God and seek love from people. The likleyhood then would be that “people”, and what they think of you will become your God . When i lived by the world veiw i veiwed women as sexual objects and thought that it was moraly correct to use condoms and have sex before marrige. Even when i found God, i had a “customised idea” of Who God was and what he wanted. This is because i didnt study my faith, and untill recently, i was still undercontrol by the “world veiw”. Being a slave doesnt make anybody evil, it just means that there in danger of being brainwashed unless the eyes are firmly fixed on the allmighty. You cant be with God and be with the world. God said give Glory only to me.

For instance, Some Active homosexuals now wants to worship God and maintain a homosexaul life stlye. They do not want to Give up there worldy behavior, this is because they are ignorant of what God wants and are open to the “world veiw”. Some people are ignorant of what sexuality is and what it was made for. They are slaves to the idea that they are born to be as they are by the will of God. So they spend thier time trying to find loop holes in scripture, so they can serve God but remain actively gay at the same time. But the truth is, a man is only a man because a women is a women. Sexuality exists to serve a purpose, like everything else that exists in Gods creation. If the human race didnt have sexual organs we would not be sexualy attracted to eachother nor would we be man or women since this is defined by “sexuality” and the phenominom of procreation. There for sexaul desire and love follows a design or blue print, it is for a purpose. Yet despite this you will all ways find people who want it both ways, This is called customised morality, it is a world Veiw, and it is dangerous, most dangerous When people do not study God, and except correction.

You are either a slave of the world or a servent of God. Glory to the Father the son and the holy spirit.
Ok, now that you’ve clarified, no disagreement here!
 
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