Lol, obviously there would be less divorce if the wife let the husband make all the decisions, as there would be less divorce if the husband let his wife make all the decisions.
What if it’s the other way around? What if the husband is the one who thinks having another child is a bad idea and it is the wife who wants another one?
You compared the relationship between wife and husband to that of parent and child on multiple occasions. Would you like me to re post those?
Of course He did. To say otherwise is blasphemy.
Yes you can. The compromise means sometimes doing things “her” way, other times it means doing things “his” way.
I don’t care which spouse is on which side, or who wins. By definition, it’s not a compromise.
Let me give you a real life scenario:
I can’t think of a “bargaining chip” of comparable “value” to having or not having another child. “If you agree to go through another pregnancy, I’ll…” What?
No my point is that Jesus was still equal to God Spiritually even though Jesus took on the role to be submissive to the will of the Father. Being submissive as a role does not mean you are not equal in the eyes of God. That is a lie that is propagated by our culture. Is a worker not equal to his/her boss at work if they submit to their boss?
Well said. Kids are human beings with a soul and there is no “trade” one could make that equals the life of a child.
The rise of women making the decisions in the home as been coupled with the rise of divorce in this country. Is this just a coincidence? I would say the norm today (especially in the Northeast) is that women are the heads of the home and many men “check out” into their man caves or work late hours since they receive no respect at home. This puts a lot of strain on the marriage. Men crave Respect and Women crave sacrificial love. This is the way God made men and women.Lol, obviously there would be less divorce if the wife let the husband make all the decisions, as there would be less divorce if the husband let his wife make all the decisions.
But that’s not what marriage is about.
The reason divorces happen is because a couple doesn’t learn to compromise and to put the other first.
Here is a “bargaining chip”…
I can think of a way to complete that sentence. Assuming its the husband trying to convince the wife and typically wives are the ones who bear the brunt of the grunt work raising a child.
Perhaps men not getting respected is a newer problem, as you see it, but women not getting cherished has always been a problem. A lot of the divorce that happens these days are not a result of decision-making conflict, but as a result of a lack of love.
If, after trying to work it out togther, a couple disagrees about something and when they “put the other first” as you suggest then no decision will be made? By putting the other person first each person will defer to the other person. Since they disagree then you are still left with no decision. Anyway, I hope the best for you. I am sorry if I offended you in any way. My marriage is not perfect, but by God’s grace we are trying to follow God’s design for marriage. God Bless.
The men “check-out” and force the wives to make all the decisions is more like it if you’re going to start in with that theory. Instead couples of turning to each other, they turn to their friends, the media, entertainment, etc or they simply check-out altogether. Women that let their husbands make all the decisions abdicate their role of heart of the home. The so-called “head” is now doing all the work instead of their part. And it leads us back again to what is needed is a marriage partnership, not a boss and employee relationship.
Paul, I’m glad that your marriage works as it does. I think we all jump on the bandwagon when someone starts suggesting that “marriage has to be this way because we interpret this piece of scripture to say so and anyone that doesn’t follow exactly as we is doomed for trouble, or worse, they imply or flat-out state your rebelling against God if you don’t do as we do”. Not saying you said or meant those things, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, we do get those kinds of things here in this section of CAF, so when someone relatively new comes onto the forum and starts with the Ephesians thing, well…you can imagine how we veterans are wary. God bless you and your family.
If by “God’s role for marriage” you mean the husband always gets the last say then I warn you again that that is actually contrary to Church teaching as found in Casti Conubii. Also, as I previously pointed out, you’re claim that the decision making process between husband and wife must always look the same is directly contradictory to Casti Conubii as well. Please stop trying to present this on a Catholic Forum as though it were God’s design when it is directly contradictory with official Catholic teaching.
