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SheepofChrist
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Nicely said
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SheepofChrist
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This is something to think about… but is it right to think this way?
Does the Church/Bible have a stance on this?
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SheepofChrist
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This may be so, but Mohammad did not intend to do this. He was very God-fearing [and loved cats
] and every Muslim tries to be like him. A Muslim will NEVER blaspheme against God, and sometimes I think that Muslims have stronger faith than us, Christians…
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SheepofChrist
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Really? But don’t other faiths deny Christ?
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Bezant
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It is the OP’s choice, and not one I think that’s either very wise or appropriate. Nothing here is truly anonymous, although I understand the need to keep secrets even from loved ones. I think it best we respectfully agree to disagree instead of continuing back and forth.
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BListon
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Not our Protestant brothers and sisters… they believe that Jesus is the Christ.
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thistle
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It is a false religion. It denies the divinity of Christ. Unless Muslims convert they cannot be be saved.
It is a violent religion and teaches violence against all non-Muslims (unbelievers, disbelievers, infidels, Kafirs - all words for non-Muslims) but in particular violence against Jews and Christians.
Sura 5:51: “O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them.”
Sura3 3:64: “Verily Allah has cursed the Unbelievers and has prepared for them a Blazing Fire to dwell in forever. No protector will they find, nor savior. That Day their faces will be turned upside down in the Fire. They will say: ‘Woe to us! We should have obeyed Allah and obeyed the Messenger!’ ‘Our Lord! Give them double torment and curse them with a very great Curse!’”
Sura 4:89 “seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
4:101 “When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.”
4:102 “For the Unbelievers, Allah has prepared a humiliating punishment.”
9.123 “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you”
9.73 “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”
Sura 8:57 “So if you gain the mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson.”
Sura 8:12 “Remember your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
“No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir (infidel).”(Hadith vol. 9:50)
Islam even teaches violence against any Muslim who wants to convert.
“Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57)
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Bezant
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I think that casts serious doubt on God’s omnipotence. Is our almighty God beyond making an alternate plane of salvation for non-Catholics?
If we look at Islamic history it was Jews and Christians had protected status as monotheists. This status was also extended to non-Abrahamic, non-Muslim communities that nevertheless had some monotheistic elements – such as Hindus in India and Zoroastrians in Persia. Furthermore, it is my understanding that warfare has strict limits in Islamic law.
[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
“Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.”
“…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (5:82).
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BListon
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robwar
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Islam means submission not peace. Just because it is a monotheistic religion does not mean that it is accurate. Violence is a very intricate part of the faith and the way it has been spread right from the start. More Christians have been killed by Islam than any other faith.
It denies Jesus as the Son of God, They claim the resurrection did not happen. Again islam is Arabic for submission NOT peace.
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robwar
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you show that be trying to quote the so called “peaceful” suras that there is a lot if inconsistancies in the Koran. What few peaceful verses you have quoted are negated by the violent ones. Christians in Muslim countries have been killed, taxed and beated out of existence. It is a capital crime to leave Islam. I am always amazed at the number of Christians that try to defend this violent false religion.I think that casts serious doubt on God’s omnipotence. Is our almighty God beyond making an alternate plane of salvation for non-Catholics?
If we look at Islamic history it was Jews and Christians had protected status as monotheists. This status was also extended to non-Abrahamic, non-Muslim communities that nevertheless had some monotheistic elements – such as Hindus in India and Zoroastrians in Persia. Furthermore, it is my understanding that warfare has strict limits in Islamic law.
[2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
“Allah forbiddeth you not those who warred not against you on account of religion and drove you not out from your homes, that ye should show them kindness and deal justly with them. Lo! Allah loveth the just dealers.”
“…and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, ‘We are Christians,’ because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant” (5:82).
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ConstantineTG
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When you raise the issue about moving to another religion, you should ask the question why are you moving to that religion. If you are worried about the teachigns or belief of the religion you are leaving behind, then perhaps you are not really ready to move. If you want to leave Catholicism, then it shouldn’t matter if the Catholic Church thinks you’re going to hell or not, right?
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jochoa
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I know which religion is true by solving the following question:
How does a person share the means to experience limitless happiness with unbreakable peace for all, including the self, given the person initially exists in absolute solitude?
The Solution reveals the following:
Jesus Christ: The Holy Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is God and His Church is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
The actions He must do is the Nicene Creed.
The general means to experience these blessings is Jesus’ Greatest Commandment.
The means to experience these blessings in the “earthly” world are Jesus’ Greatest Commandment in unity with the Sacraments of Catholicism.
The means to share this experience is the Story of Creation: The Holy Bible.
The detailed aspects of the Solution are the Catechisms of the Catholic Church and Doctrines of Faith.
Please know, every single belief and religious teaching, including atheistic teaching, has valuable information we can learn from and use to understand Catholic Teachings, however, Catholicism is the Fullness of Truth, which defines the solution independently of other teachings.
I encourage trying to recognize the validity in seemingly contradictory positions of various books.
Fair enough, however, if there is only one God, then surely there is no other to worship. Perhaps instead, there exists improper practices of worshiping the God.
Excellent post, my friend! I look forward to further discussion!
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thistle
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Baptism is necessary for salvation and there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.I think that casts serious doubt on God’s omnipotence. Is our almighty God beyond making an alternate plane of salvation for non-Catholics?
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