What if We Stopped Trying to Make Abortion Illegal?

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Well, I tried to be nice to you but I can see you aren’t interested in being cordial. Truth is it is extremely difficult to have a debate with anyone who is pro-choice because often they have distorted their consciences so badly. Someday we will see how God feels about abortion.

We will also see if the Catholic church is Christ’s church and if it indeed is infallible. I think it is a shame you have no guilt over the child you had killed. Hopefully that will change.
I know I would feel guilty when I imagined holding my small child that would have been had I not had it killed by having its brain sucked out. My own flesh and blood that was supposed to be held safely in my womb, my child, my flesh and blood, defenseless. It would sicken me to know that I had my child cut apart and killed. Maybe I would try and rationalize it as well, because that type of guilt would be unbearable.

This may sound gruesome but that is what needs to be. If we talked about abortion for what it really is maybe people would see how truly terrible it is.

A human life is taken in its earliest stages perhaps but still it is a life. For after it is destroyed it ceases to be. Anyway good luck, I wish you the best no sarcasm intended. God bless.
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I’m truly sorry, bobbyva2001, I was in the powder room and totally lost the thread.

Now, you say you’ve “tried to be nice”. Does this sound like someone trying to be nice? “I think it is a shame you have no guilt over the child you had killed.”** Although this may accurately portray the action I took, it is my feeling that your addressing the situation in these terms demonstrates poor judgment. Yes, abortion is a gruesome tragedy, but shining a light on another’s actions in this fashion and pointing it directly toward that person is unconscionable. My opinion. My opinion only.

You say after it is destroyed, human life ceases to be. I disagree. It may no longer be in human form, but the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. That energy has to go somewhere. Maybe the energy left from my little fetus was infused into your being so you could chastise me for aborting him or her. Who knows?

Who knows?

Limerick
 
I regret my approach in these post. It was mean spirited and I apologize. I feel the same way on the issue but I do not like the way I spoke.
 
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What if instead of engaging in pointless debate that never changes minds (only makes people dig their heels in sooner) we instead devoted our time, energy, and resources into addressing the reasons why abortions exist to begin with. Wouldn’t it be amazing if abortions ended not because we passed a law but because they were no longer “needed?”
I think there is alot of merit to your thinking; instead of focusing most, if not all of its energies on pro-life issues, perhaps the church should focus on teaching the merits of abstinence among (premarital sex) all people; not just teens.

To make it illegal will not stop abortions from occuring; its very tough to stop a determined person from doing what they want to get done; all you’ll see is an increase in deaths of the mother/child who seek backalley abortions.
 
God sets the morals, and they are non-negotiable. black and white from the Church.
Steve,

Not to be antagonistic, but think about this; what about those who know no God? They might not agree with you; so who sets their morals? There must be a driving force somewhere if its not faith-based.
 
Laws exist to protect liberties and freedoms. There will always be people who’s hearts cannot change. The law means nothing to them, but consequences of breaking the law do. If there were no laws, there would be no consequeces, because there would no morals. Cause and effect. People tend to think laws are born from morals, but it’s actually the other way around. The Natural Law shows this.

Now, what if we stopped trying to make rape illegal? Well, rape would have no legal consequeces, so it would increase. It would decrease, though, if hearts were changed. But that’s the thing: we don’t have to just focus on changing hearts or changing laws. The issues are mutual: You change laws by changing hearts and you change hearts by changing laws. It’s a vicious cycle. Prayer and fasting do wonders.
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