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What if you had awesome creative powers? To be precise, if you had the power to create a world according to your liking? What kind of world would you create?

Be creative with the ontological foundation of your world, it does not have to be similar to this one. For example, a world with sentient trees would have no pain… or a world with total regeneration (like the planaria) would have no death. What kind of relationship would you develop with the created beings? The possibilities are endless.

Let your imagination go as far as it can, and tell us about it. 🙂
 
What if you had awesome creative powers? To be precise, if you had the power to create a world according to your liking? What kind of world would you create?
Hmmmm…you know, I think that some video game programmers feel like they are doing exactly this.
 
This is an… interesting thread topic. I’ll be interested in seeing others’ responses, but I don’t particularly feel like playing God. That’s His job. 🙂
 
I’ve almost got the first week scheduled:

DAY 1: Let there be eternal youth for all creatures. Pain, illness, death and advanced aging are banished henceforth.

DAY 2: Upon all the animals we bestow intelligent speech in every extant language, save the cockcroach, to whom we wholly forbid it, for he offendeth existence already the stubborn swine.

DAY 3: Yea, verily I say unto the sun, seven afternoons in shining you shall shine everywhere ceaselessly, with the tempature forecast no less than 20C, but not exceeding 32C.

Day 4: Let the human partake from the tree every form of sustenence he or she desireth: chocolate, sushi, lamb kebab (yum), McDonalds…yes, yes, all groweth upon the tree, and the fruit and the nut in likewise manner…
 
Hmmmm…you know, I think that some video game programmers feel like they are doing exactly this.
In a sense they do, however the current level of “immersion” is rather shallow. 🙂

I was thinking about a Matrix-type environment, which is “closed” to the outside (but observable from the outside). The inhabitants of this world are not aware that they live in an artificial environment. Today, such a world belongs to the realm of science fiction, but theoretically it could be achieved in a few hundred years (and I may even be pessimistic with this prediction). I find it very interesting to contemplate the details.

Especially: What kind of relationship would the hypothetical creator establish with its creation? Would she reveal her existence to the beings in this world? Would she desire to be worshipped by the creatures? Would she issue commandments and reward the compliants, while punish the non-compliants? Or would she strictly leave them alone and passively observe them? So many fun questions to contemplate. 🙂
 
I’ve almost got the first week scheduled:

DAY 1: Let there be eternal youth for all creatures. Pain, illness, death and advanced aging are banished henceforth.

DAY 2: Upon all the animals we bestow intelligent speech in every extant language, save the cockcroach, to whom we wholly forbid it, for he offendeth existence already the stubborn swine.

DAY 3: Yea, verily I say unto the sun, seven afternoons in shining you shall shine everywhere ceaselessly, with the tempature forecast no less than 20C, but not exceeding 32C.

Day 4: Let the human partake from the tree every form of sustenence he or she desireth: chocolate, sushi, lamb kebab (yum), McDonalds…yes, yes, all groweth upon the tree, and the fruit and the nut in likewise manner…
Please continue. 🙂 I like your starting parameters. (As for the cockroach… you would not be under any obligation to create them, if you did not like them. ;)).
 
Co-creation. It’s what writers and film makers do every day. Tolkien did a great job of it; I like his world.
But it’s a lot of work.
 
This is an… interesting thread topic. I’ll be interested in seeing others’ responses, but I don’t particularly feel like playing God. That’s His job. 🙂
Looks like we both will have to wait for a substantial answer.

Actually I have a suspicion, which may or may not be correct: “most believers shy away from such serious questions, because such questions implicitly admit that this world is inferior, it could be improved upon… and as such it reflects badly on its “creator”. And I have yet to see a true christian who will admit that God’s work could (and should) be improved upon”. Part of “fearing God”, I suppose.

Now, since I posited the question, I will present my answer, which is somewhat along the lines of ThinkingSapien and Bezant.

The actual ontological basis of the world is of no relevance. It could be an electronic world, like the Matrix, or it could be a physical world like ours. In either case, there would be no undesired and detrimental effects, like earthquakes, or hurricanes. Its inhabitants would need no special sustenance, just like the vegetation needs only the sunshine (and a few chemicals). The world itself would provide the nutrients to allow sustenance and growth. So far, it is easy.

The next point to consider is the inhabitants of the world, and among them the conscious, sentient beings (the others would only be “icing on the cake”). They would be given all the freedom to explore their world, to discover its “secrets”, to create theories, to experiment and to grow in knowledge. Since there would be no scarce resources, there would be no need for competition, and as such no hostility would arise. There would be no method to allow them to hurt each other in the physical sense. They would not have an animal-type nervous system to experience pain. Their pleasure would come from enjoying the environment, its beauty and from mental achievements. The world would be an expanding one, there would be no “death” needed to accommodate the growing population. This part could be elaborated upon, of course. The point is that the inhabitants would never complain about “boredom”, there would always be something interesting to do.

Finally, the “interaction” between the creator (myself!) and the creation. There would be no such activity. The creator would observe the creation (no “omniscience” for us! - even though we are outside the “time” constraints of that world), could - theoretically - intrude into the world, but never do it. The autonomy of the world would never be violated. Naturally, there would be no “commandments” and no “sin”. Whatever the inhabitants would want to do, they could do - whatever the creator did not want them to do, the world would prevent them from being able to do. (Like we cannot fly by flapping our arms).

What could such a world provide for the creator that the creator “needs”? A lot of knowledge, obviously. The growth and the change could be studied. One could observe the development of hypotheses about those questions, which are so frequent among the humans: “what is the origin of this world?” etc… The inhabitants of the world could and probably would contemplate if their world is “natural” or “created” and it would be interesting to see what kind conclusions they would come to. 🙂 Some might believe in the existence of the creator, others might not. Some might even “worship” that creator, who knows?

As I said, the problem is very interesting and complex. You may even contemplate if you would wish to reward those who believed in your existence and “worshipped” you. You may even wish to punish the “unbelievers”. As I said, let your imagination roam free. 😉 There is nothing wrong with it!

(Caveat: this idea is not mine (unfortunately!). It comes from a great short story written by Stanislaw Lem.)
 
If is the biggest word in the English language, my friend.
Would you explain what that has to do with the topic? Because I see no connection. Anyhow, here is another “wisecrack” for you.

Q: What is the shortest sentence in the English language?
A: “I am”.

Q: And what is the longest sentence?
A: “I do”.

Now, let’s return to our scheduled program. 😉
 
What if you had awesome creative powers? To be precise, if you had the power to create a world according to your liking? What kind of world would you create?

Be creative with the ontological foundation of your world, it does not have to be similar to this one. For example, a world with sentient trees would have no pain… or a world with total regeneration (like the planaria) would have no death. What kind of relationship would you develop with the created beings? The possibilities are endless.

Let your imagination go as far as it can, and tell us about it. 🙂
Admitting this is probably an unedifying response, but I would certainly do nothing…What could be preferable to the perfect peace of absolute nothiness, no pain, no boredom, blessed sleep of non-existence for all eternity.

“Rather than the dead, I salute the living, but happier yet are those who have never been born.” I would extend this great boon of non-existent to all things, spare them the pain of existence, the wretchedness of birth and death. Most importantly, I would spare Christ the Cross, and the inexpressible sorrows which pierce every human heart.

But I am not God…
 
This is an interesting topic.
Never mind the power to create.
What about the power to move matter around, any amount of matter, anywhere? With that power you could rule the world. There’ll be plenty of people glad to help you. Remember Hitler and Stalin?

What do you do with limitless power? :bigyikes: :bowdown: :whistle:

In my book Empress Theresa, an eighteen year old girl gets limitless power.
Fortunately for everybody she is a good Catholic girl with no greed for power. “I’m not going to tell anybody what to do. People know best what to do with their lives.”

Whew! 👍 That could have been a disaster. 😊
 
Admitting this is probably an unedifying response, but I would certainly do nothing…What could be preferable to the perfect peace of absolute nothiness, no pain, no boredom, blessed sleep of non-existence for all eternity.

“Rather than the dead, I salute the living, but happier yet are those who have never been born.” I would extend this great boon of non-existent to all things, spare them the pain of existence, the wretchedness of birth and death. Most importantly, I would spare Christ the Cross, and the inexpressible sorrows which pierce every human heart.

But I am not God…
It is a pretty good response. However, your starting parameters are little bit “off” from what I intended. Having all the necessary power but NOT some perfect “foresight” (which is sheer nonsense), you would not need to “imitate” what you believe is “reality”. There would be no need to create pain and death as I said in post #12. There would be no “sin” in your world, unless you wanted to have “sin”. (Sin in disobedience to God).

Anyhow, thanks for your response. 🙂 I suggest that you read this excellent short story Stanislaw Lem: “Non serviam” which was my inspiration for this thread.
 
This is an interesting topic.
Never mind the power to create.
What about the power to move matter around, any amount of matter, anywhere? With that power you could rule the world. There’ll be plenty of people glad to help you. Remember Hitler and Stalin?

What do you do with limitless power? :bigyikes: :bowdown: :whistle:

In my book Empress Theresa, an eighteen year old girl gets limitless power.
Fortunately for everybody she is a good Catholic girl with no greed for power. “I’m not going to tell anybody what to do. People know best what to do with their lives.”

Whew! 👍 That could have been a disaster. 😊
You sound quite pessimistic.
 
What do you do with limitless power? :eek:
In my book Empress Theresa, an eighteen year old girl gets limitless power.
Fortunately for everybody she is a good Catholic girl with no greed for power. “I’m not going to tell anybody what to do. People know best what to do with their lives.”
Whew! 👍 That could have been a disaster. 😊
You sound quite pessimistic.

??? :hmmm: 🤷

It would have been a disaster if Theresa had gone drunk with power, tried to establish a new order of things, and inevitably messed up the whole world, as many people would do.

But she avoids these mistakes by withdrawing from public life and leaving everybody alone.
That sounds optimistic to me. 😃
 
This is an interesting topic.
Never mind the power to create.
What about the power to move matter around, any amount of matter, anywhere? With that power you could rule the world. There’ll be plenty of people glad to help you. Remember Hitler and Stalin?

What do you do with limitless power? :bigyikes: :bowdown: :whistle:

In my book Empress Theresa, an eighteen year old girl gets limitless power.
Fortunately for everybody she is a good Catholic girl with no greed for power. “I’m not going to tell anybody what to do. People know best what to do with their lives.”

Whew! 👍 That could have been a disaster. 😊
A world created and ruled by an 18 year old girl could be a nightmare. Such a world would be filled with shopping malls filled with clothing shops, and mirrors, and the music of One Direction.
 
It is a pretty good response. However, your starting parameters are little bit “off” from what I intended. Having all the necessary power but NOT some perfect “foresight” (which is sheer nonsense), you would not need to “imitate” what you believe is “reality”. There would be no need to create pain and death as I said in post #12. There would be no “sin” in your world, unless you wanted to have “sin”. (Sin in disobedience to God).

Anyhow, thanks for your response. 🙂 I suggest that you read this excellent short story Stanislaw Lem: “Non serviam” which was my inspiration for this thread.
Even imagining an existence without any negatives (such as sin, death, disease), and even filled with constant postive pleasures or joys (and, imagining, there was no possibility of boredom), I still feel that the deep sleep of non-existence would be preferable.

No, if I was God, I would have never said, “Let there be Light”, but would have just hit the “snooze” button, rolled over and gone back to sleep in the loving arms of the infinite void.
 
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