What is a good book discussing Catholicism vs. Orthodoxy?

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I plan on reading a book supporting a Catholic position and a book with a Orthodox position. So I’m asking here for the Catholic position.

I’d actually prefer a book that is unashamedly pro-Catholic. Books that try to be “unbiased” usually are poorly written in the first place.

I’ll find a book with a pro-Orthodox slant next.

Thanks!
 
The Orthodox book has got to be “The Orthodox Church” by Archbishop Kallistos Ware. It’s the general introduction to Orthodoxy here in the English speaking west for a reason - it’s thorough, well written, and straightforward.

Catholicism has several good offerings, but I think I’d suggest Catholicism for Dummies. NOT the “Idiot’s Guide to Catholicism”. Idiot’s Guide has several mistakes in it and was written with an agenda (well, more of an agenda than usual I should say). Other good options include the Catechism itself (though rather difficult to read, IMO) or maybe Rome Sweet Rome by Scott Hahn. Honestly though, I think the best general introduction is probably Catholicism for Dummies.

I’ve been both Catholic and am entering Orthodoxy. If you have any questions feel free to PM me (and I’m not a bitter ex-Catholic. Promise. 😛 )
 
I’m reading that book right now. It can be very informative and yet highly polemical IMO. It makes some unfair charcterizations of Catholicism here and there but overall is very easy and interesting reading. So far, though, I haven’t learned much from it that I didn’t already know…
 
huh? :confused:😛 That’s Scott, man, what do you think I’m Tony Stark, head of Stark Industries? I’m not with Black Widow, you know! 😃
 
It makes some unfair charcterizations of Catholicism here and there
I’m sure from the Catholic perspective it does, just as I’m sure the book I recommended on Catholicism makes what are considered some polemic statements about Orthodoxy. I don’t mean to defend abuse of either church, just pointing out that we *do *disagree on several points, and there won’t be a book written that both sides are going to believe is a fair and true representation of our churches.
 
Probably true, Rawb. Overall Ware is pretty fair actually. But with moments like this I raise an eyebrow:

Latins thought primarily of Christ the Victim; Greeks of Christ the Victor…–pg. 48

I don’t think that’s a fair statement. If Catholicism sees Christ the victim of the sins of the world as a sacrifice for our redemption, that doesn’t negate the sense of victory. We pray and suffer with the Lord through Lent but on Easter we see his Victory with the resurrection…The victory is in the sacrifice of the Victim, the Lamb of God. Victory follows the crucifixion. But of course Ware stops short, just presents victimization and gloom, no victory, but with the Orthodox there is a strong sense of victory and kingship and wonder…slanted, one sided analysis that is unworthy of his intellect IMO.

He also says Latins taught more of redemption, Greeks of deification……again I think an oversimplification. The East and West taught sanctification, theosis, growing in sanctifying grace toward oneness with God. Just things I noticed about Ware’s thinking…

But in other parts of the book he abundantly fair, especially with Photius, etc.
I’m sure from the Catholic perspective it does, just as I’m sure the book I recommended on Catholicism makes what are considered some polemic statements about Orthodoxy. I don’t mean to defend abuse of either church, just pointing out that we *do *disagree on several points, and there won’t be a book written that both sides are going to believe is a fair and true representation of our churches.
 
I plan on reading a book supporting a Catholic position and a book with a Orthodox position. So I’m asking here for the Catholic position.

I’d actually prefer a book that is unashamedly pro-Catholic. Books that try to be “unbiased” usually are poorly written in the first place.

I’ll find a book with a pro-Orthodox slant next.

Thanks!
I wouldn’t suggest this approach.

If you want to understand Roman Catholicism, find good books on that subject from Catholic authors and publishers and schedule a talk with a priest, or even visit a monastery. Many monasteries will accomodate visitors overnight.

If you want to learn about Orthodoxy, do likewise, find the best materials you can find on that subject from Orthodox authors and publishers.

In my opinion, most polemical materials, even from (what some people think) are the most reputable sources tend to be full of errors. Sometimes the facts are spun, sometimes they are omitted or redacted out. It can be like a more polished form of a CAF thread, not better info, just more wordy and expensive. I mean this comment to apply to both sides of any contentious subject, including Orthodoxy/Catholicism.

My all time favorite Catholic resource for getting a flavor of the Roman Catholic church is probably the late Father John Hardon’s The Treasury of Catholic Wisdom. Actually he was a very prolific author and editor so you could learn a lot by reading his overall bibliography.

You could also read father Romano Guardini. Look him up and pick something out.

The best little book on Eastern Christianity from a Catholic viewpoint would have to be by the late Archbishop Joseph Raya (Memory Eternal!) entitled: The Face of God. It is out of print now, and the prices asked are outrageous, but that should be some indication of it’s continuing value to people.
 
Thanks for the recommendations, Michael! I’m actually enjoying the Ware book. I haven’t found out anything I didn’t know (not like I’m some expert by a LONGSHOT) but I’m still enjoying the review/overview and style of his presentations…I find the Orthodox claims about polity and schism compelling, moreso than Catholicism. I’m not in agreement with everything yet but appreciate much. I see your attraction to the faith.
My all time favorite Catholic resource for getting a flavor of the Roman Catholic church is probably the late Father John Hardon’s The Treasury of Catholic Wisdom. Actually he was a very prolific author and editor so you could learn a lot by reading his overall bibliography.

You could also read father Romano Guardini. Look him up and pick something out.

The best little book on Eastern Christianity from a Catholic viewpoint would have to be by the late Archbishop Joseph Raya (Memory Eternal!) entitled: The Face of God. It is out of print now, and the prices asked are outrageous, but that should be some indication of it’s continuing value to people.
 
I plan on reading a book supporting a Catholic position and a book with a Orthodox position. So I’m asking here for the Catholic position.

I’d actually prefer a book that is unashamedly pro-Catholic. Books that try to be “unbiased” usually are poorly written in the first place.

I’ll find a book with a pro-Orthodox slant next.

Thanks!
Did anyone suggest The Primacy of Peter: Essays in Ecclesiology and the Early Church, edited by John Meyendorff? This, as the title suggests, is a collection of essays from the Orthodox point of view.

Peace,
Anna
 
Now where have I heard of that book? :eek:😛
Did anyone suggest The Primacy of Peter: Essays in Ecclesiology and the Early Church, edited by John Meyendorff? This, as the title suggests, is a collection of essays from the Orthodox point of view.

Peace,
Anna
 
That Meyendorff book still impresses me. I’m reading Timothy Ware’s “The Orthodox Church” right now. It’s ok, but I think Meyendorff is a better historian and captures a point better.
You know where. 😃 I’m surprised you didn’t mention it.

Anna
 
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