What is a Hebrew Catholic?

[SAVINGRACE]

Read the whole article. It includes what the Pope actually said. Yes I believe the Pope’s view over your view.

patheos.com/blogs/kathyschiffer/2013/10/proselytize-no-evangelize-yes-said-pope-francis/

I’m not convinced. I think evangelism is a form of prosletysing, a concerted targeted effort aimed at converting/convincing someone to my viewpoint.

If my Jewish mates ask me about a teaching of Catholicism, I give them the details. That is connecting one on one and I don’t feel I am prosletysing or evangelising.

 

[thistle]

I’m not convinced. I think evangelism is a form of prosletysing, a concerted targeted effort aimed at converting/convincing someone to my viewpoint.

If my Jewish mates ask me about a teaching of Catholicism, I give them the details. That is connecting one on one and I don’t feel I am prosletysing or evangelising.

So you are telling me the Pope is wrong??

 

[SAVINGRACE]

So you are telling me the Pope is wrong??

I’m telling you that I remain unconvinced. Perhaps it’s semantics or perception.

It is possible for a Pope to be wrong.

That article in the link you posted was a mess, ended up more confused.

 

[thistle]

I’m telling you that I remain unconvinced. Perhaps it’s semantics or perception.

It is possible for a Pope to be wrong.

That article in the link you posted was a mess, ended up more confused.

The article was pretty clear to me and I agree with what the Pope said and yes I believe that proselytizing and evangelising are not the same.

For your information from the Modern Catholic Dictionary:

PROSELYTIZE. Originally to convert someone from one religion to another, either by bringing a person to full acceptance of the new faith and ritual or at least sympathy with it. The more common meaning, however, is to induce people to change their religious affiliation by using unfair and even unscrupulous means. (Etym. Greek proselytos, to convert to Judaism; literally, one who has arrived.)

EVANGELIZE. In general, to preach the Good News, as lived and taught by Jesus Christ. More specifically it means bringing the Christian revelation to persons and cultures to whom the Gospel has not yet been effectively proclaimed.

 

[eightydeuce82]

Does this also apply to Baptists? I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church, so does this mean that I remain a Baptist somehow even if I convert to another denomination or to another faith? If I became Catholic would I become a Baptist Catholic? Right now I’m a Baptist Lutheran

The notion that being baptized Catholic would leave an indelible Catholic mark is a little odd since other baptized Christians who convert to Catholicism are considered to have a valid baptism if they were baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (i.e. trinitarian).

If you were baptized in the Baptist church you are Catholic!

 

[johnnyc176]

I’m not convinced. I think evangelism is a form of prosletysing, a concerted targeted effort aimed at converting/convincing someone to my viewpoint.

If my Jewish mates ask me about a teaching of Catholicism, I give them the details. That is connecting one on one and I don’t feel I am prosletysing or evangelising.

What do you think Jesus sent the apostles to do…mingle?

 

[SAVINGRACE]

I mingle. I don’t deliberately set out to convert people.

They see right through it and run a mile even end friendships, limit contact or harden their hearts against God. Kinda has the opposite effect.

I like my friends, I only talk about the faith if they ask. We respect each other regardless of faith or lack of.

I like having a wide variety of friends including Hindus, Jews, Muslims, atheists, gays, people who like the colour blue. I keep them close and if they do have the Saul epiphany or are ready to come to Christ, I am here to help them.

 

[SAVINGRACE]

What do you think Jesus sent the apostles to do…mingle?

I mingle. I don’t deliberately set out to convert people.

They see right through it and run a mile even end friendships, limit contact or harden their hearts against God. Kinda has the opposite effect.

I like my friends, I only talk about the faith if they ask. We respect each other regardless of faith or lack of.

I like having a wide variety of friends including Hindus, Jews, Muslims, atheists, gays, people who like the colour blue. I keep them close and if they do have the Saul epiphany or are ready to come to Christ, God placed me there to help them.

 

[johnnyc176]

I mingle. I don’t deliberately set out to convert people.

They see right through it and run a mile even end friendships, limit contact or harden their hearts against God. Kinda has the opposite effect.

I like my friends, I only talk about the faith if they ask. We respect each other regardless of faith or lack of.

I like having a wide variety of friends including Hindus, Jews, Muslims, atheists, gays, people who like the colour blue. I keep them close and if they do have the Saul epiphany or are ready to come to Christ, God placed me there to help them.

That’s fine but I’m just pointing out that Jesus calls us to evangelize which is not the same as proselytizing. Fishers of men is what he told Peter our first Pope. I believe our current Pope would indeed encourage groups like the St. Paul Street Evangelization.

streetevangelization.com/

 

[Ignatius]

So I’m watching Journey Home with guest David Moss who is a Hebrew Catholic.

On the show he said Jews who come home to the Church prefer not to be referred to as ‘converts’ that they are simply fulfilling their Jewish faith.

They have accepted Christ as the Messiah, does that mean they are still Jewish?

It is an organization of people who were born into and raised in the Jewish faith and come to the fullness of the Jewish faith in the Church that Jesus the Messiah founded.

Here are a few related linkd:
hebrewcatholic.net/studies/mystery-of-israel-church/
hebrewcatholic.net/
secondexodus.com/
secondexodus.com/yeshua/