What is a Wiccan?

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I am sorry for any offense - I just have a hard time taking seriously anyone who makes up her religion as she goes along.
That is neither intelligent, or educated.
As St. Edith Stein reflected, we cannot love at the expense of truth.
 
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tjmiller:
I am sorry for any offense - I just have a hard time taking seriously anyone who makes up her religion as she goes along.
That is neither intelligent, or educated.
As St. Edith Stein reflected, we cannot love at the expense of truth.
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As you wish, I contend that it is more incriminating that, while you may not agree with their perspective, you characterize those
who hold relgious beliefs that develop based upon their spiritual
understanding as uneducated and possessing moderate to below average intelligence.
BH
 
There are certain religious beliefs which, while false, are more or less worthy of respect than others which are likewise false. Protestantism, for example, is worthy of some, however limitedly moderate, respect.
Wicca belongs at the bottom of the barrel.
Just above atheism.
And membership in the Democratic Party.
 
as for intelligence atheists feel that if one believes in God then they have no intelligence. So its best to leave out the whole statement. Maybe intelligence is in the mind of the beholder 😃

As for Wiccians I had a lady start at work and we were instantly at odds with each other. And I had no idea why. Our boss told us to go outside on a park bench and figure it all out. Well gee, me being a christian and her a wiccian. We sat and started where we agreeed, ie love your neighbour and her sisterhood and harm none. Tired each a bit of converting the other and finally agreed to disagree on things and just love the neighbour and harm none. And tone down on what are the differences. We were able to coexist afterwards.
 
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Lapsed:
Mike, I know a great many Wiccans who are every bit as sincere and devout in their faith as any Catholic. Seems to me you’re being a little judgemental here. While the religion is certainly lacking in the truth department, to disparage its adherents is at the least uncharitable. Most of them are genuinely seeking for God. They’ve simply been mislead.

m134e5, Wicca has absolutely nothing to do with the Druids or any other ancient religion outside of borrowing deity names and symbols. Wicca is the product of an Englishman named Gerald Gardner, who adapted a handful of rituals from the Golden Dawn and Alister Crowley (whom he knew personally), combined with the now largely discredited ideas of mythologists like Magaret Murray and James G. Frazier. Wicca has no direct links to any genuine ancient pagan religions and has existed only since the 1950’s.

If you’re genuinely interested in the history of Wicca, the best book available on the subject is Triumph of the Moon by Ronald Hutton, who is a Wiccan. The so-called ancient history of Wicca which continues to be perpetrated by writers like Silver Ravenwolf has been thoroughly discredited; something which is acknowledged by most serious Wiccans.
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Lapsed, you are right I am everything you have accused me of 🙂 Idon’t intend to change either 😛
 
Mike Dye:
Lapsed, you are right I am everything you have accused me of 🙂 Idon’t intend to change either 😛
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In the words of Polonius, “And this above all: to thine own self be true.” 😉
 
As a member of a military community (I’m Catholic) who share’s a chapel/annex with Protestants/Jews/Muslims/and Wiccans I can say that they for the most part look and act like everyone else except for 1 or 2 who are a little creepy (by choice).

For the most part I consider them to be nice people who are just trying to worship whatever they believe in the best way they can.
 
Wicca originated from the theories of 19th century Romantics/poets. Most especially Margret Murray.

The real inventor of that religion was Gerald Gardner

http://www.weeklyuniverse.com/2004/Gerald Gardner cover.jpg

Another one of the creators of that religion was Alex Sanders

http://www.wicca.utvinternet.com/person1.jpg

Wicca has very little to do with REAL WITCHCRAFT. It is PAGANISM LIGHT. But still, as with all pagan gods, they, knowingly or unknowingly, worship demons as scripture tells us.

The greatest opponent of Margret Murray and inventors of “the goddess” was Fr. Montague Summers

http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~elfindog/revsum.jpg

For great books on the true origin of the Goddess, Wicca and real Paganism visit: thedavincicodedemolished.com/The-Goddess.html

For great books on Witchcraft, Wicca and Exorcism: thedavincicodedemolished.com/witchcraft-paganism-exorcism.html
 
i am a wiccan, and if you read my other posts the only reason i am here is to balance out what people think to what is the truth…and wicca is said to be new and old, i care less cause of the traditions i practice or more druid than anything, and wiccans also call themselves witches which is somewhat true…wiccans are actually some of the most kind,sweet,moral,and intulectual people and alot of them make me mad because they’ll do rituals and meditate but then go out in the real world and trash what the laws say. these are not wiccans but lost souls looking for a spiritual outlet in any way shape and form…and i’ll post a thread about this subject soon so feel free to comment on that
 
reborn_pagan said:
i am a wiccan, and if you read my other posts the only reason i am here is to balance out what people think to what is the truth…and wicca is said to be new and old, i care less cause of the traditions i practice or more druid than anything, and wiccans also call themselves witches which is somewhat true…wiccans are actually some of the most kind,sweet,moral,and intulectual people and alot of them make me mad because they’ll do rituals and meditate but then go out in the real world and trash what the laws say. these are not wiccans but lost souls looking for a spiritual outlet in any way shape and form…and i’ll post a thread about this subject soon so feel free to comment on that
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If you think your going to “balance out” what we KNOW is the truth, you’re dead wrong. Wiccans are nothing more than a bunch of heathens trying to upset mommy and daddy.
 
pira114 said:
If you think your going to “balance out” what we KNOW is the truth, you’re dead wrong. Wiccans are nothing more than a bunch of heathens trying to upset mommy and daddy.
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what is wrong with you, okay some heathens claim to be wiccan or any other kind of religion, thats jst like the people who shoved christianity down my throat and claimed to hate me because of my pagan ways…now not to be mean but everyrelgion has there own group of ppl who are completly coocoo clock worthy. and what is your opinion on the “truth” is it cause its what you were taught by your parents and there parents before them…prove to me that your religion is the one and only truth and i swear on my soul that i will become catholic, and as a witch my word is equal to a signed contract and i hold that greatly
 
A wiccan is someone who calls themselves wiccan. Trying to pin anything more then that down is impossible.

**Most of them are genuinely seeking for God. **

Maybe. There is a common assumption amongst people that what you experienced is the same for everyone. That is not true, but rather closed minded of you. Just because you were wiccan or ‘lapsed’ for a time does not mean you have an inside scoop. You merely have an opinion. Everyone experiences everything uniquely in themselves. Maybe God designed it that way? 🙂 Whats the saying? Don’t judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes? Not a mile in your shoes.

The thing is you can never walk a mile in another mans shoes, its impossible, so you can never know what its like to be them in their lives with their pasts and know what they get out of some religion.
 
reborn_pagan said:
what is wrong with you, okay some heathens claim to be wiccan or any other kind of religion, thats jst like the people who shoved christianity down my throat and claimed to hate me because of my pagan ways…now not to be mean but everyrelgion has there own group of ppl who are completly coocoo clock worthy. and what is your opinion on the “truth” is it cause its what you were taught by your parents and there parents before them…prove to me that your religion is the one and only truth and i swear on my soul that i will become catholic, and as a witch my word is equal to a signed contract and i hold that greatly
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This is why people like you will never know true happiness and never find Jesus. You demand physical proof. If you truely wanted to find the Truth, He’s waiting for you.

As to your word and being a witch, it don’t mean squat to me.
 
Just a few comments on the reactions, here, to Wicca.

I guess I’m not surprised to find catholics criticizing a religion that allows people to choose their own practices and doctrines. Catholicism grows from Authority, and people who resonate with Catholicism will be those who find Authority to be helpful and productive. It can be useful, especially for beginners, or the less devout, to have one’s spiritual practice prescribed and guided by a long-established hierarchy.

Wicca is a diverse set of religions, because Wicca does not assume that divine truth, and spiritual practice, ought to be uniform. Since the divine takes many forms, spiritual practice will as well, and what works for one group of practitioners may not work as well for another. However, the more traditional ends of Wicca are rather more formalised than a lot of the really (imo) empty-headed things one sees in certain sorts of popular books.

Traditional Wicca is usually a pretty formal round of training and practice, that doesn’t have much to do with ‘making it up as you go’. Students take oaths to keep the work, and move through graded levels of training, until they are prepared to teach other students. The fad of ‘do whatever you feel might work’ came later.

Wicca is a new religion, certainly - it took its modern form no earlier than the early 1940s, though it draws on ritual and theological ideas at least a century older. But being new has little meaning for a religion’s value - christianity was new for its first 100 years or so…
Ian
 
pira114 said:
This is why people like you will never know true happiness and never find Jesus. You demand physical proof. If you truely wanted to find the Truth, He’s waiting for you.

As to your word and being a witch, it don’t mean squat to me.
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Pira, as a fellow Magistirium following Catholic, your brand of wiskey isn’t what reborn_pagan was looking for. If you could not tell her the truth about He who is TRUTH, then you should have just walked away from this instead of making true but harsh in tone statements. Yes, the truth can hurt, but for conversion of another, one must become like the other without sinning. YOu totally missed her clues on the approach that she need.

Reborn_pagan, I am sorry as if you felt that faith was shoved down your throat growing up. That is wrong and is against the teachings of the Catholic Church. God gave you the free will to chose to believe in Him and love Him or to reject Him. That is your choice, but have you asked yourself why you have so easily accepted the belief system that you hold? Have you even done the research about the belief system that you have rebelled against? You have questioned how those of us believers in He who is Truth have come to our belief. My answer is this, as a terrible sinner, I have read and continue to read/study my faith and I also found that when I wasn’t doing things they way that God had intended I was MISERABLE. As soon as I started following God’s way, an overwhelming sense of peace overcame me, even in turbulent times.
 
pira114 said:
This is why people like you will never know true happiness and never find Jesus. You demand physical proof. If you truely wanted to find the Truth, He’s waiting for you.

As to your word and being a witch, it don’t mean squat to me.
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Excuse me, it may not be your religion,
and having someone bring it up may not be your cup of tea, but you don’t need to be so rude to someone for their religious prefrences.

As a christian, shouldn’t you be kind to all?
I know it’s hard, but at least show a little respect.

All he’s trying to do is to open everyone up, because no one knows a whole lot about his religion. Everyone has a mixed vision of Pagans.

I’m Catholic, and I’m not supporting the religion, and I’m not encouraging it. I’ve actually tried to convert him.

Just show a little respect.
 
thank you gmarie21 and i’m a guy, sry i think i need to be more specific of my gender lol. and thanks also for bieng so kind i would offer you an e-hug but i dont feel like getting slapped…and pira why does my word as a witch mean nothing to you, is it because i am a witch? what if i was a christian then would it mean something to you?
 
Cody, dearest, if people discriminate because of your religion, just know that they’re missing out on a great person.

<3
 
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