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And can I pray it daily? is it like a roman litany? Could you give me a link to one?
A long devotional prayer.What is an Akathtist?
Alex,I am deeply humbled that my akathist to Our Lady of Lourdes, Fatima and Guadalupe have all been sung at the respective shrines.
You’ll find annotations like “Тропарь, глас 4” and “Кондак 2”…Alex,
Could you explain what you mean by “sung”? I’ve seen your akathists, but I don’t see sheet music. Are they chanted recto tono or are there specific melodies?
You are right - I have no idea about how to put such to music and have no singing voice (too bad my parents didn’t send me to singing school rather than have me play the piano . . . would have come in handy in EC seminary).
My stuff was put to music by others and given my knowledge and appreciation for music, I never asked to get a copy of any of that.
So I’m absolutely useless when it comes to this. The priest who sang my Akathist to our Lady of Lourdes did bring me a special Carmelite rosary as a souvenir though!
And what is “recto tono?” I’m almost afraid to ask . . .
Alex
Thanks, Aramis! I’d suspected that, but I guess I haven’t yet seen an akathist with the tones indicated or the tone markers on the text.You’ll find annotations like “Тропарь, глас 4” and “Кондак 2”…
these are the melody indications.
There are 8 main tropar melodies, 8 kontakion (kondak) melodies, 8 theotokion melodies (which relate to the troparion melodies closely)…
By knowing the tone markers, and their associated melodies, one can comfortably sing most texts.
Just a caution - those are Byzantine Catholic tones (in the sense that the non-Ukrainian side of the Greek Catholics in the United States adopted the name “Byzantine Catholic” so people wouldn’t assume they were ethnically Greek Roman Catholics).Here are some recordings of the tones (Byzantine):
metropolitancantorinstitute.org/RecordedMusic.html
I haven’t listened to all of them, but the couple of Resurrectional Tones that I heard there are not the ones we use at my UGCC.Here are some recordings of the tones (Byzantine):
metropolitancantorinstitute.org/RecordedMusic.html
Jeff, many of the tones I’m learning are listed as Galician. Any insight? I’m having some trouble digging up information about it.Just a caution - those are Byzantine Catholic tones (in the sense that the non-Ukrainian side of the Greek Catholics in the United States adopted the name “Byzantine Catholic” so people wouldn’t assume they were ethnically Greek Roman Catholics).
But they are not Byzantine chant tones; they are Slavic chant tones, in a Carpathian tradition known as “prostopinije” or “plain chant.”
Saints Cyril and Methodius seminary in Pittsburgh will be providing a distance learning course on Byzantine Catholic chant next Spring, and I am going to try VERY hard to make sure people understand the difference.
Jeff Mierzejewski
Yes, I have compared the Anthology to the Byzantine Green Liturgy Book and they are different. That is one reason that the Ruthenian Greek Catholic and Ukrainian Greek Catholic Churchs are different…I haven’t listened to all of them, but the couple of Resurrectional Tones that I heard there are not the ones we use at my UGCC.
I think my local church is a bit unusual in its practice. The priest and the deacon use English (except in the beginning), but the congregation responds in Ukrainian (except for the Tropars, Creed, and Communion Prayer).
I’ve been learning the tones from The Divine Liturgy: An Anthology for Worship, and I know most of that setting for DL in English. I’m also trying to learn the Ukrainian setting from a book that Father gave me, but it’s in Ukrainian (I don’t know Ukr) – I know the melodies, but the pronunciation is a whole nuther ball of wax! I sound like I have a mouth full of pierogies.
Jeff, many of the tones I’m learning are listed as Galician. Any insight? I’m having some trouble digging up information about it.
Further, they’re not the same tones as used in the Ukrainian nor Russian Churches… tho’ they’re pretty darned close, musically.Just a caution - those are Byzantine Catholic tones (in the sense that the non-Ukrainian side of the Greek Catholics in the United States adopted the name “Byzantine Catholic” so people wouldn’t assume they were ethnically Greek Roman Catholics).
But they are not Byzantine chant tones; they are Slavic chant tones, in a Carpathian tradition known as “prostopinije” or “plain chant.”
Saints Cyril and Methodius seminary in Pittsburgh will be providing a distance learning course on Byzantine Catholic chant next Spring, and I am going to try VERY hard to make sure people understand the difference.
Jeff Mierzejewski
I would say about 15-20 minutes if you’re reading it by yourself, a bit longer if it’s being read/chanted in Church because there might be different beginning prayers/litanies.How Long does it take you to pray an akatist?
Thanks I often find it hard to read long texts off the computer screen. Can one obtain a book of akatists? or even E-book format?I would say about 15-20 minutes if you’re reading it by yourself, a bit longer if it’s being read/chanted in Church because there might be different beginning prayers/litanies.
This has two Acathists, 14 to 15 pages each, no music.Thanks I often find it hard to read long texts off the computer screen. Can one obtain a book of akatists? or even E-book format?