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Would the males be wearing these too, or just the females?Yeah along with a weird green apron and a white baker’s cap.
Would the males be wearing these too, or just the females?Yeah along with a weird green apron and a white baker’s cap.
Males and females wear the apron. Males wear the cap and females wear a white veil.Would the males be wearing these too, or just the females?
Sounds like he’s saying the ideal Mormon funeral is a Catholic High Mass.This is what Boyd K. Packer has to say about what Mormon funerals should be…
"Funerals could and should be the most spiritually impressive. They are becoming informal family reunions in front of ward members. Often the Spirit is repulsed by humorous experiences or jokes when the time could be devoted to teaching the things of the Spirit, even the sacred things.
When the family insists that several family members speak in a funeral, we hear about the deceased instead of about the Atonement, the Resurrection, and the comforting promises revealed in the scriptures. Now it’s all right to have a family member speak at a funeral, but if they do, their remarks should be in keeping with the spirit of the meeting.
I have told my Brethren in that day when my funeral is held, if any of them who speak talk about me, I will raise up and correct them. The gospel is to be preached. I know of no meeting where the congregation is in a better state of readiness to receive revelation and inspiration from a speaker than they are at a funeral. This privilege is being taken away from us because we don’t understand the order of things–the unwritten order of things–that relates to the administration of the Church and the reception of the Spirit. "
The intent of cremation in some previous centuries was to be anti-God, to attempt to destroy the body so completely that God could not resurrect it on the Last Day. Cremation was forbidden to Christians because it was so strongly identified with the anti-Christians. The logic was similar to Christians being forbidden to eat meat sacrificed to idols, because non-Christians would be misled by our intent.Seems like I’ve heard that the Catholic Church up until some years ago prohibited cremation, but I don’t know if that is true, or if it is, why it was true.
Anybody know anything about this?
That’s true! I find myself agreeing with the Mormon.Sounds like he’s saying the ideal Mormon funeral is a Catholic High Mass.
Don’t forget the Mormon underwear!Yeah along with a weird green apron and a white baker’s cap.
We are counseled though to keep the ashes together in some suitable container NOT AT HOME. When my parents died my sister had them both cremated (they died three months apart) and I was just sick. The Priest told me it was okay as long as their ashes were not ‘scattered’ and they were not kept in someone’s home.The intent of cremation in some previous centuries was to be anti-God, to attempt to destroy the body so completely that God could not resurrect it on the Last Day. Cremation was forbidden to Christians because it was so strongly identified with the anti-Christians. The logic was similar to Christians being forbidden to eat meat sacrificed to idols, because non-Christians would be misled by our intent.
Now, of course, we know that a body left to its own will normally decay completely. Cremation only hastens the process. Yet nothing will be beyond the power of God to restore.
God knows everyone He has created. Even if they have been cremated, He still knows where their ashes are. At the end of the age, He will find them and resurrect their body.We are counseled though to keep the ashes together in some suitable container NOT AT HOME. When my parents died my sister had them both cremated (they died three months apart) and I was just sick. The Priest told me it was okay as long as their ashes were not ‘scattered’ and they were not kept in someone’s home.
(The last I knew, my father’s ashes were in a box in my brother’s garage and my mother’s on my sister’s fireplace mantle. I have no recourse.)
Do you have a question? No one said you can’t choose cremation.The One True Church? Why must we be caught up into Denominations? I am a Child of God, A Child of the Most High. If I choose to have a family member cremated, whether for personal requests or financial reasons. That is between me and God. Personally, I don’t think that God is going to send a lightening bolt down to incinerate me for cremating a family member. That may be all I’m able to afford.
What is that saying?.. Oh… Judge Not!
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From a previous post, I gathered that some feel that there are rules and regulations pertaining to cremation. What if an individual is unable to afford to pay a monthly bill to house the urns at a cemetary, in which their family members remains are in? What if those urns are on a mantle? Does that mean that the person keeping the urns on their mantle and in their home is subject to damnation and hell? I think not.Do you have a question? No one said you can’t choose cremation.
I’m pretty sure not one person said anything about anyone being subject to damnation and hell. But there are rules and regulations, and I quote, “Respectful final disposition of cremated remains involves interment or entombment. Burial options include a family grave in a cemetery marked with a traditional memorial stone or an urn garden, a special section in a cemetery with small, pre-dug graves for urns.”From a previous post, I gathered that some feel that there are rules and regulations pertaining to cremation. What if an individual is unable to afford to pay a monthly bill to house the urns at a cemetary, in which their family members remains are in? What if those urns are on a mantle? Does that mean that the person keeping the urns on their mantle and in their home is subject to damnation and hell? I think not.
Therefore, my question to those that hold fast to the rules and regulations, how you do handle the aforementioned situation in a society that is driven by a dictated monetary system? NO ONE and I repeat…NO ONE gives anything for free in this world.
EDITED …to excuse behavior that doesn’t conform to what is -]AGAINST /-]the teachings of the Church…I’m pretty sure not one person said anything about anyone being subject to damnation and hell. But there are rules and regulations, and I quote, “Respectful final disposition of cremated remains involves interment or entombment. Burial options include a family grave in a cemetery marked with a traditional memorial stone or an urn garden, a special section in a cemetery with small, pre-dug graves for urns.”
This is done out of respect and reverence for the body of the loved one. Without clear limits set, the door is opened for abuse. As I posted earlier, my father’s cremains are as they were received from the crematorium: in a plastic bag, in a cardboard box; on a shelf in my brother’s garage.
Saying “That is between me and God” is something people say to excuse behavior that doesn’t conform to what is the teachings of the Church… We were given leaders in the Church to help us to understand those things we don’t or can’t understand on our own.
Finances can be a problem but I bet that if one truly wanted to do what is right, something could be done to properly inter the cremains according to Church counsel.
No, I meant the big ‘C’ Church counsel.…did you mean the church counsel? And no… between me and God is not an excuse. He knows everyone’s financial situation, life situation and so on. I don’t believe that the Rules within the Denominations of this World outweigh the Love, Grace, Mercy and FAVOR of God…
My understanding from a recent Catholic Answers broadcast is that this is a discipline of the Church, and so it may change. The concern that underlies the discipline is that disposal of ashes by scattering may be thought to support the false notion that remains need not be treated with dignity and respect. The practice of cremation was originally banned because certain groups of christians who tended toward the gnostic rejection of anything “of the flesh” burned their dead as a sign of releasing a person from the evils of the flesh. As Catholic Christians, we reject this notion, believing that what God has created is good, and that we will be reunited with our physical bodies at the resurrection.USCCB Order of Christian Funerals
Must cremated remains be buried/entombed?
YES. Respectful final disposition of cremated remains involves interment or entombment. Burial options include a family grave in a cemetery marked with a traditional memorial stone or an urn garden, a special section in a cemetery with small, pre-dug graves for urns.
May I scatter the ashes?
NO. “The practice of scattering cremated remains on the sea, from the air, or on the ground, or keeping cremated remains in the home of a relative or friend of the deceased are not the reverent disposition that the Church requires.” (Order of Christian Funerals, Appendix II)
May I bury the ashes at sea?
YES. Burial at sea of cremated remains differs from scattering. An appropriate and worthy container, heavy enough to be sent to its final resting place, may be dropped into the sea. The burial of cremated remains at sea in this manner seems to be an appropriate alternative to the long-standing and revered custom of a traditional burial at sea. Please consult your local government for environmental regulations (See Order of Christian Funerals, #405.4)