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don_chugg
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So I am totally new. I have only been to mass twice. They did a song in which they kept saying avee maria? What does that exactly mean? Who is maria? I am really confused.
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MichaelHowling
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It’s latin for “hail mary”.
It’s a beautiful song… they’re singing the hail mary prayer.
It’s a beautiful song… they’re singing the hail mary prayer.
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don_chugg
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Mary is the one who gave birth to jesus right?
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MichaelHowling
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yes.
God chose her to be the Mother of His Son - she brought God into the world through a free gift of self.
She’s a great model for us in this way in being totally receptive and trusting in God’s plan. Because she brought eternal life into the world by saying “yes” to God’s plan and participating in it through Jesus’s life on earth…she’s a mother to us as well in the spiritual sense because she in a sense gave “birth” to us as well by bringing us a way to come to God… Jesus.
God chose her to be the Mother of His Son - she brought God into the world through a free gift of self.
She’s a great model for us in this way in being totally receptive and trusting in God’s plan. Because she brought eternal life into the world by saying “yes” to God’s plan and participating in it through Jesus’s life on earth…she’s a mother to us as well in the spiritual sense because she in a sense gave “birth” to us as well by bringing us a way to come to God… Jesus.
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don_chugg
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What is exactly gods plan? Sorry for all the questions… I have heard peoples say gods plan a few times but I don’t even know what the plan actually is. Also what do you mean eternal life into the world?
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ducketto
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What he means by God’s plan is His plan of salvation history, or God’s plan to reconcile ourselves with Him once again. So to do a two-minute drill on this, through Adam and Eve’s sin, we all have Original Sin. And because of this separation from God, that is sin, God wants to fully reconcile mankind with Himself. So this “plan” is the layout, if you will, of the means by which God is going about doing so. When it comes down to it, only God truly knows this plan. However, He has included people such as Mary in this plan in order to bring about this reconciliation, which is our ultimate goal of Heaven. What he means by “eternal life” being brought into the world is Jesus’s coming into the world, He who is “the Way, the Truth, and the Light”. Let me know if there is anything else that needs clearing up. Also, don’t be afraid to ask anything that is on your mind, it may lead to something good like learning something new.
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ClearWater
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Welcome! :
I saw you said you were new. Are you going to RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults) class? Your church should have an RCIA program, and they should be able to answer your questions. RCIA is for converts or just people who have questions about the faith.
Good luck with your journey!
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ClearWater
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You know a good way to learn this in my opinion? To go to the library and get a children’s Bible. That explains it with color illustrations and makes it easier to understand.
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don_chugg
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I am planning too! they are going to start it up again the week after christmasWelcome! :
I saw you said you were new. Are you going to RCIA (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults) class? Your church should have an RCIA program, and they should be able to answer your questions. RCIA is for converts or just people who have questions about the faith.
Good luck with your journey!
Excited to go to it. I don’t understand a lot of things so you will have to forgive me for being stupid. Also what is proper wear to wear to mass. I saw some people in jeans and then some in black slacks and white button up shirts. So I have been wearing a low down business professional?
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MichaelHowling
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Slacks and a dress shirt IF you have it… a tie is very appropriate.
Did they help clear up what you were asking friend ?
Did they help clear up what you were asking friend ?
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JamesTheJust
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None of us can really understand God’s Plan, but we know it follows these basic tenets:
- Create the universe, then man. Endow man with a rational soul, free will, and a Paradise-like garden from which he can rule over the Earth.
- When man falls, send him out into the world, and establish covenants of salvation with chosen people throughout history, leading up to step 3.
- When the chosen people are overrun and conquered, choose a woman who shall be the vessel through which I send unto man my Son, that He may teach them and die for their sins.
- After the Gates of Heaven have been opened by my Son, resurrect Him.
- After my Son has ascended back to Heaven, to rule Heaven and Earth forever, send, in union with Him, the Holy Spirit, so that He may guide the Church my Son has established and be the mystery through which salvation is delivered.
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don_chugg
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Yes I think. Avee maria means hailing mary who is our spiritual mother except I dont understand why she is our mother. How come giving birth to jesus makes her our mother?
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JamesTheJust
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In John 19:27, Jesus entrusts Mary to John as John’s mother; we recognize this as meaning that Jesus then gave us Mary to be our Mither, who would intercede for us, and do all she can to help and guide us from Heaven.
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MichaelHowling
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also…look at this passage from the book of revelation:
1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery. 3 And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; 5 she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. 7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world–he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. 12 Rejoice then, O heaven and you that dwell therein! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!” 13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. 14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. .
1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery. 3 And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; 5 she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. 7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world–he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. 12 Rejoice then, O heaven and you that dwell therein! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!” 13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. 14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. .
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don_chugg
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So do I pray to god or jesus or mary?
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judynurse
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You can pray to all three of them!! God is our Father, in Heaven. He created us. Jesus is His Son, not created, but a part of the Trinity = God. Mary gave birth to Jesus, said “yes” to God, and watched her Son grow, perform His ministry of teaching, then watched Him die on the cross. She continued to trust God with perfect trust, and saw Jesus resurrected from the dead. Jesus gave her to us to be OUR mother also, when He gave her to John to be John’s Mother also. Then, when Mary died, He didn’t want her Immaculate body, which had carried God in her Virgin womb, to rot in the earth, He took her to heaven, not just her soul, but her body as well. She is also called the Queen of Heaven, because she is the “Queen Mother”, the Mother of Jesus Christ, King of the Universe. So she is also our Mother as well. You can also pray to the Holy Spirit, “who proceeds from the Father and the Son”. He is the one who inspires us, gives us direction and faith, and also leads us to Jesus, the Savior.
You will learn all of this and more in RCIA. Welcome Home to the Church founded by Jesus Himself!
You will learn all of this and more in RCIA. Welcome Home to the Church founded by Jesus Himself!
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don_chugg
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I feel really stupid because I dont understand any of this. I am guessing the dragon is like sybolic for satan and the women is mary? Besides from that I dont really get it.
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JamesTheJust
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All of them- and more!
We pray to all three members of the Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, with unlimited worship and adoration. This type of prayer is called latria.
We can pray to Mary with extremely high reverence and honor, but we CANNOT worship her. She is above all creatures, but below God. She has no power of her own, she can only guide us and pray for us, albeit more powerfully than anyone else ever could. This type of prayer is called hyperdulia.
We can pray to all the canonized saints, Blesseds, and Venerables. We honor them, and can ask them to pray for us. Remember, this is not worship. This type of prayer is called dulia.
A suggestion: start off with prayers to the saints and Mary that you find on Catholic websites before moving into free form prayer, just to make sure you get the different types of prayer down pat.
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don_chugg
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What is the difference between a immaculate body and a normal body? How do i decipher which one will give me better advice? Should I just ask each of them separately? How do I even start and end my prayers?
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