What is bad, exactly with pornography?

[Ellen_Mary]

Just an interesting observation: I looked at all of your posts and it seems there are only three topics you’re interested in: sex, pornography, and more sex.

Seems you’ve been here for awhile, too. So, my question to you is: Why the obsessions? Maybe you need to go to confession or find yourself a solid, orthodox priest to discuss these obsessions.

 

[facetious5487]

Is pornography inherently wrong to look at?

I’ve always believed that it was, but I don’t have many reasons.

If it is inherently wrong, I think that God would be sinning because he can see all people having sex.

Yet God does not sin, so I think that is proof enough that it is not inherently wrong.

But perhaps I don’t have the right definition of porn.

Again, can anyone help on the question?

I think you are being an internet troll. I just glanced through your posts. They are very strange indeed. Perhaps a different outlet for your viewpoints would be more appealing to you?

 

[Debora123]

Agreed, Debora, but pornography isn’t just watching someone have sex: it is a deliberately manufactured sexual encounter designed to stimulate people (often men and for self-gratification purposes, i.e. masturbation) where two people have no feelings for one another, use contraception, and perform the act in front of a whole camera crew and director, often in exploitative conditions, to sell a final product. Sorry, but that’s not the same as walking into your parents’ bedroom while they’re doin’ the dirty.

I know. I never said it was the same. No one did.

Ummm I think there were other methods of testing the bride’s virginity, such as examining the bedsheets afterwards - they’d actually show them about to demonstrate that she was a virgin. Rather crude!

Yeah, I heard about the thing with the sheets too.

 

[Debora123]

Ii can also agree that seeing someon have sex is not inherently sinful. But we are walking a very fine line here.
Seeing someone have sex accidentaly is not what we are talking about. Anytime sexuality is taken out of the real marital context and represented as an object for pleasure, that is sinful. That includes a couple making a video for their own use.

I know this seems harsh to a lot people but it is not. This teaching protects the sanctity of sexuality and the dignity of people. A representation of sexuality, used for pleasure, makes the participants, and the sex, an object. Sex is not an object, it is the fruit of the sacrificial love between two people. It is the fruit, or the fulfillment of, a spiritual and physical reality, not a representation of it.

The pleasure involved is a beautifl thing, but it is not an end. So anything that is done merely for pleasure is objectification. It is not foreplay. Foreplay is different. Foreplay is part of the act between two people that ends in mutual self donation. The Church does not prohibit foreplay, although certain acts are arguable.

But there is a difference between an object, or representation of something, and an act between two married people.

I agree with the teaching, I don’t think anyone here doesn’t.

You are correct. I was merely saying that witnessing someone having sex isn’t inherently sinful, since it can happen on accident or out of necessity in criminal cases. That’s all fakename was trying to say I think.

I hope no one here thinks I’m somehow giving the OK to porn just because I said that.

 

[clem456]

When a cardinal Pope Francis commented on the sex trade. It would be naive to think porn does not have a role in this:

The new pope has been outspoken on the broader issue of the sexual exploitation of children in society.

“In this city, there are many girls who stop playing with dolls to enter the dump of a brothel because they were stolen, sold, betrayed,” he said in 2011, referring to Buenos Aires.

“Women and girls are kidnapped, and they are subjected to use and abuse of their body; they are destroyed in their dignity,” he said. “The flesh that Jesus assumed and died for is worth less than the flesh of a pet. A dog is cared for better than these slaves of ours, who are kicked, who are broken.”