What is Catholic Fiction

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I have been researching this topic for weeks. I’ve looked at Tuscany Press’ definition but it loses me (“it’s fiction that captures the Catholic immagination”–what exactly does that mean. Maybe there isn’t a definite definition. Appreciate thoughts on this.
 
Yes, but it’s the understanding of “immagination” that’s troubling me. Can’t believe I’ve been all over the internet on this (Flannery O’Connor, Tuscany Press, Catholic Fiction.net and so on) and didn’t try wikipedia. Thanks to both of you for replying. You make me happy that I joined this site. Thanks again.
 
As a fiction writer and editor who uses his imagination a lot, Catholic fiction is, by definition, missing a number of things that writers today consider OK, or good or average. In the past, a lot of really good fiction was written without profanity and sexually suggestive content. We can tell stories about individual pain and suffering, and human suffering in general, but we do not need to be as graphic about it as too much fiction is today. Here’s a good guide from the Catholic Writers Guild:

docs.google.com/a/catholicwritersguild.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEtGN0pjNlZjeGNwRFMxMEVYdnN2M0E6MQ#gid=0

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Yes, but it’s the understanding of “immagination” that’s troubling me. Can’t believe I’ve been all over the internet on this (Flannery O’Connor, Tuscany Press, Catholic Fiction.net and so on) and didn’t try wikipedia. Thanks to both of you for replying. You make me happy that I joined this site. Thanks again.
Very welcome. You might also want to pick up a copy of George Weigel’s “Letters to a Young Catholic: The Art of Mentoring” which discusses the idea of the Sacramental Imagination, as developed by G.K. Chesterton, in several works like Brideshead Revisited and Flannery O’Connor’s works, as well as sacred art and architecture, and as a general worldview outside the arts. It has one of the best expositions on the subject I’ve read and is an enjoyable book as well. As one reviewer of the book said, the “Catholic Imagination” is not a way we fantasize about something, but a reference to “the idea that Catholicism is not just a creed but an “optic,” a rooted way of viewing the world,” or as another reviewer said, “looking at the world through a Catholic lens.” That’s a definition that you might find useful.

It’s recognizing God’s presence and power in the material universe we inhabit, in all its grittiness. We’re not gnostics who see the material world as evil. We see the “stuff” of the world as good, as “stuff” - even the most unlikely “stuff” - can be a conduit for God’s Grace.

You can read some of the Amazon reviews for Weigel’s book here: amazon.com/Letters-Young-Catholic-Art-Mentoring/dp/0465092705/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1424492512&sr=1-1&keywords=letters+to+a+young+catholic
 
Yes, there are some good definitions here.
I would say it’s fiction from a Catholic worldview. Basically, it’s not just a materialistic view, but there are forces at play both for good and evil, many of which are beyond our understanding. But we can get glimpses of them, and they make for much more interesting reading than the usual non-Christian worldview.
A Catholic worldview, in my opinion, is also richer than even the Protestant view. The universe is full of angels, demons, saints, and who knows what else. They are separated from us by a very thin glass window; they can see us but we can’t usually sense them.
Or not. But that’s my thought.
 
Thx Edwest2–never thought of reading Seal of Approval from Catholic Writers Guild–they are a hard working group. Thx ArizonaMike for link to Amazon.

Thx Viki63, I was thinking about those forces. If David was a character and he fought Goliath through grace (woke up one day and felt inclined to try to fight), would an editor or reader–Catholic or not–say that’s too convenient, that he has to take “earthly” small steps to get to that point, say face his fears in smaller battles to make it believable (in earthly terms) that he could beat Goliath? If the answer is, “Yes. Grace is what got him through small steps” then how does Catholic fiction differ from other fiction? Would character praying, attending Mass, receiving Sacraments,and other actions to obtain grace be the difference?
 

Yes, there are some good definitions here.
I would say it’s fiction from a Catholic worldview. Basically, it’s not just a materialistic view, but there are forces at play both for good and evil, many of which are beyond our understanding. But we can get glimpses of them, and they make for much more interesting reading than the usual non-Christian worldview.
A Catholic worldview, in my opinion, is also richer than even the Protestant view. The universe is full of angels, demons, saints, and who knows what else. They are separated from us by a very thin glass window; they can see us but we can’t usually sense them.
Or not. But that’s my thought.​

It would be interesting to take a look at examples of how that worldview plays out in genre fiction written by Catholics, where it is sometimes most evident as it plays against and subverts (or “superverts”) some of the expected tropes of the literary forms. For instance:

Horror: “The Exorcist” by William Peter Blatty or “The Mirror of Shallot” by Robert Hugh Benson or “Freedom” by Gene Wolfe
Mystery/Detective: The Father Brown stories by G.K. Chesterton
Espionage/Intrigue: “Tremor of Intent” by Anthony Burgess or “The Man Who Was Thursday” by G.K. Chesterton
Science Fiction: “Fourth Mansion” by R.A. Lafferty or “A Clockwork Orange” or “The Wanting Seed” by Anthony Burgess
Pirate Fiction: “Pirate Freedom” by Gene Wolfe
Heroic Fantasy: “The Lord of the Rings” by J.R.R. Tolkien or “Knight”/“Wizard” by Gene Wolfe
Southern Gothic (if that can be considered a genre): “Wise Blood” by Flannery O’Connor or “A Confederacy of Dunces” by John Kennedy Toole or “The Last Gentleman” by Walker Percy.

Could be the basis for a good literary survey class for a Catholic university.
 
I so agree, Arizona Mike (who is probably a lot warmer than I am in my 8 inches of OH snow of which I am not complaining, I could be in Boston, or paying for a vacation in FLA that isn’t all that warm. But I digress.) In fact, I am presenting to my book club in early May about Catholic Fiction. That’s why I’m trying to get a better understanding of it (and also because I’m a writer.) Could you recommend 2 or 3 short stories one that would show that “culture Catholicism” doesn’t make a story Catholic fiction; one that has little or no culture Catholicism but is considered Catholic fiction? It seems I read one by Flannery O’Connor years ago that didn’t mention Catholicism at all yet she is considered a pillar of Catholic fiction.
 
I so agree, Arizona Mike (who is probably a lot warmer than I am in my 8 inches of OH snow of which I am not complaining, I could be in Boston, or paying for a vacation in FLA that isn’t all that warm. But I digress.) In fact, I am presenting to my book club in early May about Catholic Fiction. That’s why I’m trying to get a better understanding of it (and also because I’m a writer.) Could you recommend 2 or 3 short stories one that would show that “culture Catholicism” doesn’t make a story Catholic fiction; one that has little or no culture Catholicism but is considered Catholic fiction? It seems I read one by Flannery O’Connor years ago that didn’t mention Catholicism at all yet she is considered a pillar of Catholic fiction.
Yep, the weather here is glorious. I am truly a desert rat.

Let me think about that and make some recommendations. I read a lot more novels than short fiction these days. O’Connor is a good example because most of her characters are southern Protestants, yet she is looking at the world through a very Catholic lens. The novel “Wise Blood,” for instance was an attempt to see how a prototypical narrative of the fall and redemption of a medieval saint would look like in a southern Protestant world. (Good movie adaptation from John Huston, too. Great performance by Brad Dourif, who was Wormtongue in the Lord of the Rings). Walker Percy is another good example, as he was very concerned with the anthropology (in a Catholic sense) of man but had few Catholic characters.

You might try some of Gene Wolfe’s short fiction, like “Westwind” (which doesn’t seem to have a Catholic slant until a while after you think about it) or his “The Detective of Dreams,” which starts as a very funny pastiche on Victorian “consulting detective” mysteries, and then turns into something else entirely.)

There’s an anthology from Sheed and Ward of Catholic short fiction that sounds like it might fit your needs - I don’t have a copy, but plan to pick up one: “The Best American Catholic Short Stories” (amazon.com/Best-American-Catholic-Short-Stories/dp/1580512100/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1424545907&sr=8-3&keywords=catholic+short+fiction)

Let me think some more and see what I can come up with. (I’ll leave you dangling with a dangling participle…)
 
I looked at the CWG form. Bit off-topic, but what of stories like “The Power and the Glory” - where the protagonist (in this case a priest) is guilty of mortal sin (fornication, alcoholism, even pride) although the author may try to forgive it? I have a concept churning in my mind of a priest who has a sex addiction (not that I intend to write anything graphic) who yet still manages to win over his parishioners - not because he permits addictions to go unchecked, but like Peter, he knows he is tempted, weak, and he falls. And he is honest about it. And he still tries to correct it.

Is there any place in Catholic or Christian imagination where we may portray man as (succinctly) a gross sinner, who knows he is, who yet will be healed and is healed?
 
I looked at the CWG form. Bit off-topic, but what of stories like “The Power and the Glory” - where the protagonist (in this case a priest) is guilty of mortal sin (fornication, alcoholism, even pride) although the author may try to forgive it? I have a concept churning in my mind of a priest who has a sex addiction (not that I intend to write anything graphic) who yet still manages to win over his parishioners - not because he permits addictions to go unchecked, but like Peter, he knows he is tempted, weak, and he falls. And he is honest about it. And he still tries to correct it.

Is there any place in Catholic or Christian imagination where we may portray man as (succinctly) a gross sinner, who knows he is, who yet will be healed and is healed?
Here is the link to the Catholic Writers Guild Seal of Approval evaluation form. I don’t know if this is the form you looked at, but these are some things that would keep a book from being awarded the SoA.

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEtGN0pjNlZjeGNwRFMxMEVYdnN2M0E6MQ#gid=0

You’ll notice that the key word in the issues dealing with mortal sins is “promote”. Your protagonist (or any character) may be guilty of mortal sin, but the story itself should not promote the idea that this is perfectly okay. Flawed characters make for realistic fiction, but Catholic fiction should show the consequences of sin and portray characters who are struggling to overcome their sins (even if they occasionally fall.) It should never seek to glorify evil or make what’s wrong look right.
 
I am so happy I came to Catholic Answers! Thanks to all of you for your (name removed by moderator)ut.

I’m the only Catholic in my book group. Some laughed when I said I read Cath Fic. Some said that’s just a marketing ploy. Others said it’s just as easily called Christian Fic (I explained the difference.) I wrote a few reviews for Catholic Fiction.net. Maybe instead of comparing short stories I should just assign a book–like Sin Eater by Alice Thomas Ellis–and talk about the Catholic themes. Thing is, I feel like their impression of Cath Fic will come from me and I want to be well prepared to answer their questions–and negative comments. That’s why I want to understand “Catholic imagination” and “Catholic lens” as best I can. Cath. lens…maybe I can talk about how a nonCath lens would tell the story?
 
Is there any place in Catholic or Christian imagination where we may portray man as (succinctly) a gross sinner, who knows he is, who yet will be healed and is healed?
Are you asking if this can be done, or asking for examples of books where it has been done?
Because it is done all the time in Christian/Catholic fiction. I do it in some of my books.

Great examples can be found in Charles’ Willliam’s books, such as The Place of the Lion. He often has sinful characters who are hauled back onto the right path. His books are great, if you like religious mystic thrillers full of action.
 
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