What is charismatic Catholicism?

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So, I have met people in my parish who describe themselves as charismatic. I researched charismaticism in the Catholic Church on wikipedia and only learned a small amount of information. In a nutshell, the movement was born when some Catholic professors at Duquesne university read Dave Wilkinson’s The Cross and the Switch Blade. They adopted some of the theology/practices found in Wilkinson, himself a Protestant charismatic. One such practice is being “baptized in the spirit”. If anyone could give me better sources that describe Charismatic Catholicism, I would be happy.
 
Charismatic Catholicism is more than speaking in tongues. All our spiritual gifts are considered Charismatic. The Catholic Church accepts many different spiritual gifts. Most of them are mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:27-30.
 
Fr. Bob Hogan explaining the mission of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal
vimeo.com/32823851

Locally, about a dozen parishes host dedicated prayer groups that meet weekly, and monthly there is a healing Mass, where anyone can come for annointing. It is an awakening to the spiritual gifts from the Holy Spirit as listed in the scripture shared by Myway above.
 
So, I have met people in my parish who describe themselves as charismatic. I researched charismaticism in the Catholic Church on wikipedia and only learned a small amount of information. In a nutshell, the movement was born when some Catholic professors at Duquesne university read Dave Wilkinson’s The Cross and the Switch Blade. They adopted some of the theology/practices found in Wilkinson, himself a Protestant charismatic. One such practice is being “baptized in the spirit”. If anyone could give me better sources that describe Charismatic Catholicism, I would be happy.
Does your parish have a Catholic Charismatic Prayer Group. Or is there a group nearby?

Here is a good source.
nsc-chariscenter.org/about-ccr/

You should explore this website which is the home page of the above link.
nsc-chariscenter.org/

This book, on line, should answer most of your questions. Baptism of the Spirit is chapter three. However, I sincerely suggest that you read chapters one and two first.
brendancase.com/uploads/Key_to_the_Charismatic_Renewal.pdf

I am interested in your “project” to learn about the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. There are some excellent Catholic Charismatics on CAF. If you have questions, I will do my best to answer them. You are in my prayers.

Blessings,
granny

The human person is worthy of profound respect.
 
I would love to find a Catholic charismatic group near me, but I don’t think that there are any. I’ve been reading about it since one of my catechism teachers mentioned it earlier this year. I was Pentecostal protestant for a while.
 
Hi!

GrannyMH gave some great resources for you to start to learn more. Let me assure, the Charismatic Catholic ‘movement’, as some would call it, is approved by the Church.

I don’t know whether to start with what it is, or what it isn’t, at least to me. I’m fairly young at being a ‘Charismatic’, and I hate labels, personally. I’m a Catholic. I have a special devotion to the Holy Spirit, and relationship; it’s one that not many (in my opinion) welcome or embrace. For some, it’s easier to form a special relationship with Jesus Christ, the Father, and in a smaller way, with Mary. What I consider a special relationship and devotion to the Holy Spirit, an equal part of the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, is what most consider Charismatic, and some consider fringe. It’s easily and often misunderstood.

What it is to me:
God is First, Only and Front and Center. The focus is on God, not ourselves, our gifts, our talents, our failings, our struggles.
I’m a sinner, and no different than anyone else. Most Charismatics think the same way. We aren’t ‘special’ or ‘better’. We’re sinners, and we’re saved by Jesus Christ and God’s Mercy.
I am open to God’s Gifts to me through the Holy Spirit. He may or may not have certain gifts for me, at certain points of my life. This is a lifelong journey, and well worth every second of it in His Name.
I am still learning and discerning His Gifts and Talents that He has for me. I do this mostly through prayer life and attending Masses that are filled with other people with the same devotion (‘Charismatics’). (remember, I don’t like labels.) I plan on attending prayer meetings and conferences in the future (general Catholic ones, and also more focused ones), to grow in my Faith, and in serving God.

I currently only pray in tongues (which is different than speaking in tongues). Praying in tongues is between your soul and God; the Holy Spirit dwelling inside you, and praying for what you need most for yourself or someone else.
I have a couple of other Gifts that I’m discerning and exploring; God has been giving me hints to those for many, many years, and I’m moving towards a place in my life where I can devote myself to those gifts and talents He has blessed me with.

I had difficulty when first receiving that ‘moment’ with the Holy Spirit many, many years ago; we didn’t have the internet resources then, and my small town in the middle of nowhere was ill equipped to help me find out more. I asked someone in Catholic authority about it, and was pushed to the side. Many years later, I learned more. Oh my! If I’d had this information years ago, I’d be dangerous! LOL Nah, I know it’s in His Time, not mine. I’ll learn it when I’m meant to learn it.

If you open yourself up to the Spirit, in Mass and with other individuals with a special devotion, you might find it’s harder to fight it than to accept it, which is a good thing! The Holy Spirit wants to have that special relationship with you! He wants you to have the Gifts He has for you! You might be surprised when you open your mouth and the Holy Spirit comes out speaking for you. There is no other way I was sharing things I had no way of having knowledge of.

This type of devotion or relationship might be too difficult for some; for others, it might be as easy as breathing (or get that way). The path might not always be easy; I often see ridicule or disbelief. That’s okay. I know it’s real. He knows I know. And plenty of others are on this same journey, albeit at different mile markers.

Even if you don’t consider this devotion for you, I do pray that you’ll always be open, even more open than you are now, to His Gifts, His Desires, for you. That you hear Him speaking in even the small things around you…the snowflakes, the owls hooting, even the breeze or a child’s laugh. He truly does love us, head to toe, and wants us to be happy.

It’s late; I hope I made sense. I’ll check back tomorrow to see if my elders had to correct me. <3

Godspeed.
 
Actually the charismatic movement in the Church is a very concerning matter.

I highly recommend you to read church militant’s article on the Catholic charismatic movement it explains many of the objections made by Catholic’s towards it.

It can be found at this link churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq

It is a very balanced article
 
Actually the charismatic movement in the Church is a very concerning matter.

I highly recommend you to read church militant’s article on the Catholic charismatic movement it explains many of the objections made by Catholic’s towards it.

It can be found at this link churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq

It is a very balanced article
Thank you very much. I’ve started reading the first chapter. Regarding my personal preferences, I am very cautious about any movement that has its inspiration in Protestant pentecostalism. That being said, three Popes have endorsed the movement and as a Catholic, I follow Peter. I do not understand the movement but so long as it is obedient to the Custodians of doctrine, the hierarchs, I have nothing against it.
 
It is settled. I will not listen to any organization that is not recognized by the Catholic Church.
 
Fr. Chad Ripperger who is a member of the FSSP has been critical Pentecostal origins of the charismatic movement within Catholicism.

There is no historical proof for Pentecostal caims that they really are capable of speaking in tongues. When St. Peter and the twelve apostles were speaking in tongues that used actual human languages such as Latin not nonsense.

Also if Church Militant is such a bad thing then what about american life league these are faithful Catholics who accept Vatican 2 and even though they may not be officially promoted by a bishop they still do good for the Church by bringing people in to the Church
 
It is settled. I will not listen to any organization that is not recognized by the Catholic Church.
I am catching up with this thread and found the link to a Church Militant appraisal of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.

This appraisal has the typical ammunition used against the Catholic Charismatic renewal. For example.
“The Charismatic Renewal arose from the Pentecostal movement within Protestantism. As such, it has Protestant fingerprints all over it, including faith in the movement and guidance of the Holy Spirit in all things.”
The Catholic Charismatic Renewal arose from the teachings of St. Paul, primarily 1 Corinthians, chapters 12 and 14. The evidence for the Catholic Charismatic Renewal is first found in Acts 2: 1-4.

Jon, do you have a problem reading the same Scripture verses which Protestants read?

There is a potential problem with “Protestant finger prints?” I am a tad surprised that the link did not present in the text those documents opposed to the early beginning of the Catholic response to the teachings of St. Paul. There is a great document by Father John A. Hardon. But that would have to be followed by the examination of the U.S. Bishops Committee on Doctrine.
Some basic history from link nsc-chariscenter.org/about-ccr/
“The Catholic Charismatic Renewal as it exists today is the outgrowth from a retreat held in February 1967 of several faculty members and students from Duquesne University. Many of the students – though not all – experienced a movement of God’s Spirit called being “baptized in the Holy Spirit.” The professors had previously been “baptized in the Spirit” a week or two before. God’s action was also prepared for in a very human way by the students’ prayerful preparation in reading the Acts of the Apostles and a book entitled The Cross and the Switchblade.”

"As early as 1969, only two years after the Renewal started, the U.S. Bishops investigated the fledgling movement and the Committee on Doctrine wrote that “theologically the movement has legitimate reasons of existence. It has a strong biblical basis. It would be difficult to inhibit the working of the Spirit which manifested itself so abundantly in the early Church.”

The above tells us that there was communication between the early Catholic Charismatics and the Pentecostal Charismatics. It did not take long for the U.S. Bishops to step straight into the “muddle.” The Holy Spirit won! Practically speaking, the identity with the Catholic religion was retained. In other words, there is a huge difference, such as the Seven Sacraments, between the Catholic Charismatic Renewal and Protestant religions.

Today, whenever someone posts concerns about a particular Charismatic group which claims that it is Catholic, my immediate advice is to check if this particular group is approved by the Bishop. Usually, one is directed to the office of the Vicar of Spirituality for this information.

The majority of the link appears to be on spirituality.

“What needs to be distinguished here is the difference between “substance” and “style.” There is little in the “substance” of the Charismatic Renewal that is dangerous: greater faith and dependence upon God, obvious spiritual fruits such as charity and growth in virtue. What is dangerous is the confusion of charismatic “substance” with “style.” Because charismatic spirituality is so tightly identified with visible “style” such as speaking in tongues, or exercise of the gift of prophecy within prayer meetings and liturgy, or visible exuberance people have difficulty growing spiritually beyond what these external and visible expressions of spirituality permit.”
The quoted section above is, in my humble opinion, an attempt to scare people. Consequently, I sincerely would like to hear from people who view this section as a proper understanding of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.
 
The charisms are defined as extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit.
If you read The United States Catholic Catechism of the Adults, you find that the Charismatic Renewal is recognized as one of several movements of the Holy Spirit within the Catholic Church. The key point is that the Holy Spirit is at work within the lives of the individuals.
One of the manifestations of the workings of the Holy Spirit within the lives of individuals is the charisms that they manifest. The Catholic Church has celebrated through its history how some Saints have been able to heal individuals through their prayers, simply by laying hands on the persons for whom they are praying.
One of the charisms expressed within the Charismatic Renewal is the gift of tongues, also called praying in tongues. It was first manifested at Pentecost, the day the Church was born. It is the reason that Charismatic Christians may also be referred to as Pentecostal. One of the main differences between non-Catholic Pentecostals and Catholics who manifest these same gifts is the focus on the gifts.
Pentecostal churches, such as the Assembly of God and others were born out of the revivals of the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. When members of their congregations began to manifest the gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues they were rejected by the congregations from which they came. As a result they started their own churches where the Holy Spirit could manifest itself. It is one of the reasons that their sermons will often downplay the importance of mainline churches.
The Catholic Charismatic Renewal, on the other hand, has always submitted itself and been accepted by the Holy Catholic Church which accepts the charisms as valid signs of the Holy Spirit in action in the life of the individual. The purpose of the charisms is for the upbuilding of the kingdom of God, and not for the individual alone. Often non-Catholic Pentecostal churches will talk about a person who has been “born again,” who manifests the gifts as “saved.” Within the Catholic Church, charismatics understand that salvation is a continuous process. The action of the Holy Spirit leads to a deeper awakening of the Holy Spirit within our lives, a deeper appreciation of the Sacraments, and a deeper commitment to God.
The modern Charismatic Renewal does mark 1967, as a pivotal in terms of the number of individuals exhibiting charisms of the Holy Spirit, including praying in tongues. The phenomenon is not new, nor limit to Pentecost or a few instances in Scripture. Anthony of Padua is among the Saints recognized as having the charism.
 
This is the best use of a new word I have ever seen!

I have a staff meeting in 15 minutes and as God is my witness I will be sure to find a way to use this word there. It’s. Three hour meeting so that’s plenty of time to find something or someone that is a schmoo!
 
I am catching up with this thread and found the link to a Church Militant appraisal of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.

This appraisal has the typical ammunition used against the Catholic Charismatic renewal. For example.
“The Charismatic Renewal arose from the Pentecostal movement within Protestantism. As such, it has Protestant fingerprints all over it, including faith in the movement and guidance of the Holy Spirit in all things.”
The Catholic Charismatic Renewal arose from the teachings of St. Paul, primarily 1 Corinthians, chapters 12 and 14. The evidence for the Catholic Charismatic Renewal is first found in Acts 2: 1-4.

Jon, do you have a problem reading the same Scripture verses which Protestants read?

There is a potential problem with “Protestant finger prints?” I am a tad surprised that the link did not present in the text those documents opposed to the early beginning of the Catholic response to the teachings of St. Paul. There is a great document by Father John A. Hardon. But that would have to be followed by the examination of the U.S. Bishops Committee on Doctrine.
Some basic history from link nsc-chariscenter.org/about-ccr/
“The Catholic Charismatic Renewal as it exists today is the outgrowth from a retreat held in February 1967 of several faculty members and students from Duquesne University. Many of the students – though not all – experienced a movement of God’s Spirit called being “baptized in the Holy Spirit.” The professors had previously been “baptized in the Spirit” a week or two before. God’s action was also prepared for in a very human way by the students’ prayerful preparation in reading the Acts of the Apostles and a book entitled The Cross and the Switchblade.”

"As early as 1969, only two years after the Renewal started, the U.S. Bishops investigated the fledgling movement and the Committee on Doctrine wrote that “theologically the movement has legitimate reasons of existence. It has a strong biblical basis. It would be difficult to inhibit the working of the Spirit which manifested itself so abundantly in the early Church.”

The above tells us that there was communication between the early Catholic Charismatics and the Pentecostal Charismatics. It did not take long for the U.S. Bishops to step straight into the “muddle.” The Holy Spirit won! Practically speaking, the identity with the Catholic religion was retained. In other words, there is a huge difference, such as the Seven Sacraments, between the Catholic Charismatic Renewal and Protestant religions.

Today, whenever someone posts concerns about a particular Charismatic group which claims that it is Catholic, my immediate advice is to check if this particular group is approved by the Bishop. Usually, one is directed to the office of the Vicar of Spirituality for this information.

The majority of the link appears to be on spirituality.

“What needs to be distinguished here is the difference between “substance” and “style.” There is little in the “substance” of the Charismatic Renewal that is dangerous: greater faith and dependence upon God, obvious spiritual fruits such as charity and growth in virtue. What is dangerous is the confusion of charismatic “substance” with “style.” Because charismatic spirituality is so tightly identified with visible “style” such as speaking in tongues, or exercise of the gift of prophecy within prayer meetings and liturgy, or visible exuberance people have difficulty growing spiritually beyond what these external and visible expressions of spirituality permit.”
The quoted section above is, in my humble opinion, an attempt to scare people. Consequently, I sincerely would like to hear from people who view this section as a proper understanding of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.
I was talking about the church militant which is not recognized by the church. I follow Peter and if Peter approves of the Charismatic Movement, so do I. I admit, I like traditional liturgical services more than the style of the Charismatic Movement. I have no issue, however, with the results of the charismatic movement. Growing in faith is a good thing and snobby traditionalism does not promote humility or reverence. I just hope that the movement does not divide Catholics against each other, which I think it already has 😦
 
Deb Chris has posted very good information to my observation.

I’ve been told church authorities are supposed to engage and enlist charismatic members and their gifts in mainstream church purposes and strategies, e.g evangelising and interceding, maybe even offering tentative insightful (name removed by moderator)ut to guidance on parish or diocesan policies (incidentally women can do these various things too). Too often the church authorities expect the charismatics to stay in their own ghetto to pursue their hobby, just like they do with most of the other movements most of the time. Then the charismatics lose the vision and it does become just a hobby.

Leo XIII (one of my top heroes) was a Pope of the Holy Spirit, and the person who put him up to calling for prayer on this subject was another woman.

So women can help lead the Church after all!
 
I was talking about the church militant which is not recognized by the church.
:rotfl:

There are times when I think that the Holy Spirit has a great sense of humor.

My guess is that it is important to analyze what is being presented on the Church Militant website because it has a huge following. Could it be that someone was needed to do this?

Blessings,
granny

The human person is worthy of profound respect.
 
We are called to engage those disagree with the church. On whose authority do you call these people fools? Such language heightens animosity and only serves make resentment fester all the more. I am opposed to snobby traditionalism but I have great respect for tradition as it is our heritage. I protest the digging up of bagshot row just as much as I oppose hyper-traditionalists.
 
Actually the charismatic movement in the Church is a very concerning matter.

I highly recommend you to read church militant’s article on the Catholic charismatic movement it explains many of the objections made by Catholic’s towards it.

It can be found at this link churchmilitant.com/main/generic/faq

It is a very balanced article
I would consider it, at best, an opinion piece, by laymen. It’s nothing to do with the Catholic Church or the Charismatics of the Catholic Church. I ask you: what is the ‘Church Militant’ and its status in the Catholic Church?
Thank you very much. I’ve started reading the first chapter. Regarding my personal preferences, I am very cautious about any movement that has its inspiration in Protestant pentecostalism. That being said, three Popes have endorsed the movement and as a Catholic, I follow Peter. I do not understand the movement but so long as it is obedient to the Custodians of doctrine, the hierarchs, I have nothing against it.
It is good to be cautious in any learning, but one must use Church authority (of which this article is not) to help them decide.
 
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