What is going to change this year in the Mass?

[chrisb]

I just read in our Parish Newsletter that the Mass will be changing… exactly what will be change?

 

[Joannm]

Same mass, the only thing that is changing is that there will be a revision of the text of the Mass so that it corresponds more closely to the Latin text. As the bishops state “Same Mass, deeper meaning.”

 

[MarkThompson]

Right, what’ll be changing is the texts that are read and spoken, which as you may or may not know are a translation from Latin. They’ve been retranslated to better capture the meaning of the original and reflect a deeper tone. You can read the U.S. bishops’ webpage about the new translations here, with sample texts of the people’s parts and more.

Among things that are not changing but some people mistakenly think will be are (1) whether there will be any Latin in the Mass, (2) rules for when to kneel, stand, etc., (3) what hymns are allowed to be used*, (4) whether you can receive Communion in the hand, and (5) really, anything other than the English translation of the words used in the Mass.

*Things like entrance hymns and recessional hymns are unaffected. Since the Gloria (Glory to God in the Highest . . .) and Sanctus (Holy, Holy, Holy Lord . . .) are parts of the Mass, they are affected by the new translations, and old compositions for those parts will not be able to be used.

 

[ProVobis]

Same mass, the only thing that is changing is that there will be a revision of the text of the Mass so that it corresponds more closely to the Latin text.

As well as the music that uses that English text as its basis. The current music (Gloria, etc.) gets obsoleted.

 

[dnar]

I am still hoping this is a time where they will instruct nobody to hold hands during the our father, and only the priest prays in the orans position…I bet it never gets brought up though. Its as if they don’t even care about this.

I have also noticed that during the Confeitor very few people actually “strike their breast” where it tells them to, hopefully this will get corrected as well.

 

[adrift]

There are going to be changes to the priest part and to the Peoples Part
Link

The link should answer your question. It makes a comparison of what we do now with what will be done.

 

[laszlo]

The English translation of the unchanged (original Latin) text of the Mass.

A correction from an interpretative translation to a literal translation. The Mass will not be changed at all.

 

[lutherlic]

I am still hoping this is a time where they will instruct nobody to hold hands during the our father, and only the priest prays in the orans position…I bet it never gets brought up though. Its as if they don’t even care about this.

I have also noticed that during the Confeitor very few people actually “strike their breast” where it tells them to, hopefully this will get corrected as well.

I am with you on this. This is really a wonderful time to make other corrections. These opportunities are few and far between.

 

[Another_Mary]

The English translation of the unchanged (original Latin) text of the Mass.

A correction from an interpretative translation to a literal translation. The Mass will not be changed at all.

I printed out the side by side changes in the people’s part from the USCCB website at this link (given above). I have a 1951 missal that was given to my brother when he was an altar boy and the Mass was in Latin. The missal has the Latin side by side with and English translation.

Guess what? The new wording more closely corresponds to the English that was given side by side to the Latin when the Mass was in Latin.

I hate to admit it but I stopped going to Mass before it started being said in the vernacular. So I have only been familiar with the present form for the four years I have been back. I am confused as to why they used the present “translation” when there was a perfectly good one right there in the missal! I also wonder how I would have reacted had I been a regular Mass goer back then. (Probably wouldn’t have reacted…)

ProVobis:

As well as the music that uses that English text as its basis. The current music (Gloria, etc.) gets obsoleted.

The Gloria in the missal I am speaking of is almost exactly word for word what the “new” Gloria will be. Not that that changes your comment. I just thought it was interesting! (I do have to say that I have heard some Glorias sung in other parishes that don’t really follow the present words. Guess it’s all what you’re used to.)

The biggest differences that I can see between the old missal that I have and the “new translattion” is dropping the “thee” and “thine” and using “you” and “yours”.

I am hoping that showing the old missal to some of the folks in my parish ease some of their fears!

 

[ProVobis]

I printed out the side by side changes in the people’s part from the USCCB website at this link (given above). I have a 1951 missal that was given to my brother when he was an altar boy and the Mass was in Latin. The missal has the Latin side by side with and English translation.

Guess what? The new wording more closely corresponds to the English that was given side by side to the Latin when the Mass was in Latin.

Remember, though, that those English translations (yes there were several handmissals with very subtle differences in translations, some of them borrowed all the way from Cranmer and Henry VIII) were only guides, not official. They had an imprimatur by the bishop saying it was okay to follow in the translations but the priest, of course, had to say the Mass in Latin, the only language that was approved by the Vatican at that time (and still is for the EF).

The ICEL had their reasons for not using any of those translations. I don’t know what those reasons were (not using “for many,” etc.) but the ICEL translations became official, nevertheless.

 

[SeanTom]

I just read in our Parish Newsletter that the Mass will be changing… exactly what will be change?

There will be a change in the Apostles Creed when said at Mass. I understand among other changes in he Creed, the Creed will start with “I believe in God” as opposed to “We believe in God”. The change reflects our belief in God to be personal. We can not speak for others, but only for ourselves.

 

[Vico]

I just read in our Parish Newsletter that the Mass will be changing… exactly what will be change?

Here is a list:

1 Prayers over the People for the days of Lent, which is a restoration
2 Additional Solemn Blessings, which is a restoration
3 Additional prefaces, which are new
4 Vigil Masses for Epiphany and Ascension, which are new
5 Additional Masses for Various Needs and Occasions, which are new
6 Additional Votive Masses, which are new
7 Additional Masses of the Blessed Virgin Mary, which are new
8 Text of the Masses for all the new saints of Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI, which are new
9 The Eucharistic Prayers for Various Needs and Occasions
10 Emendation of the rubrics, for example for Holy Week

Adaptations for the USA

1 Act of Penitence, the absolution remains as the present text
2 Memorial Acclamations, “Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again” will no longer be allowed, and are replaced with choices
3 Formulas for Absolution
4 More options for Dismissals

The order of the Mass changed:

1 Greeting response (And with your Spirit)
2 Long for of the Penitential Act
3 Formula of Absolution
4 The Glory to God
5 The Creed using Nicene-Con. during the year and Apostles during Lent and Easter
6 Pray sisters and brothers inclusion of “holy” in response
7 Preface Dialog: And with your Spirit/It is right and just
8 Sanctus
9 Eucharistic Prayers
10 The Eucharistic Prayers for Children, while still approved for used, will no longer be a part of the Roman Missal but may be published (when re-translated) in a separate collection of Masses
11 Embolism of the Lord’s Prayer
12 Introduction to the Rite of Peace which does not have an alternate placement and must be used
13 “Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb”
14 Dismissal formulas

 

[lampstand]

I’ve been waiting for a long time, for the new missals to come out.

 

[laszlo]

The answer is complex.

Since the 1940’s with the approval of Venerable Pius XII the new translation of the Bible were mushrooming, with the sentiment, that the 16 century translations are too antique for the modern people, and the new researches prove that the original (Hebrew/Greek) text is different from the translations of the Douay-Rheims or KJV (this later is 400 years old now). Since the Mass, primarily the propers are heavily based on the Scriptures it seemed natural that new translation is needed for the Mass too.

In other hand any existing thing, including the Church is a balance between opposites, the organization of the Church between the tradition and life. The XIX Ecumenical council (Trent) and the following development pushed this balance toward the tradition, the Church needed some rejuvenation, accomodation to the modern times.

The change was repressed in the US, and like in any repression, when the rules get lighten, an explosion followed. The English translation was not only new, but also changing the meaning of the defined Latin text

• from the spiritual toward the immanent (And with your spirit => And also with you)
• from the individual toward the communal (I believe => We believe)
• from the selective toward the universalism (for many => for all)
  etc. etc.

The forces behind the new translation were strong, so the Apostolic See had no choice but temporarily accept the English translation. Unfortunately the problematic English expanded to almost all over the word, e.g. Hungary in 1991 translated the text from the English, and returned to the original only in Pentecost of 2010 for the order of the Apostolic See.

In any way the previous translation was only shift in the balance, not outright heresy, and hopefully the transition back will be smooth without serious and wide schism. We shall accept that the ruler in the Liturgy is the Apostolic See and no one else.

 

[japhy]

As others have said, the translation is the primary change. We will also be experiencing a few other changes, since there is a new (third) edition of the Roman Missal. It has restored some Vigil Masses (e.g. Epiphany and Ascension) and some other prayers (like the Prayers over the People in Lent). There are some new saints’ feast days.

But the majority of the change is in the translation. There are many guides to the new translation available online and in print.

 

[benedictgal]

There is also another change that affects the celebrant’s parts. The alternative Collects will, for the most part, not be in the revised Roman Missal.

The reason why “Christ has died…” is omitted from the revised Roman Missal is because this particular proclamation does not exist in the original Latin version. It was an innovation from ICEL. Under the guidelines issued by Liturgiam Authenticam, ICEL was charged with working on a faithful translation of the Latin text. To that end, they would be receiving assistance from the Vox Clara Commission. While there were arguments in favor of retaining “Christ has died…”, in the end, it was decided that since this proclamation does not appear in the Latin original, it could not be used. The three Memorial Acclamations are acclamations because they refer to Christ in the second person. “Christ has died” is a proclamation, as it refers to Him in the third person.

Of the three acclamation, the only one that closely resembles what we use today is “When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, O Lord, until you come again.”

 

[JillyAnn]

Is there a good online resource that lists all of the changes in the liturgy?
How will htese changes affect the parts of the mass that we regularly sing, like the Gloria? Will we just go back to the Latin or will we rewrite to accommodate the new text?
Thanks,
Ann

 

[Gaudium86]

Please know that we will be getting a revised translation of the Roman Missal, not a whole new Missal. In essence, the Latin from which all other vernacular Missals (English, French, German, etc.) are translated has not changed. It’s just the English translation that is changing. It was felt that the current translation deviates too much from the Latin original, so a new translation was necessary.

Although “Latin Rite” Catholics are (and have been) encouraged to use Latin as much as possible in their liturgy, the new English Missal does not “go back to Latin.” It contains an English translation of the entire Mass. If your current Mass is all in English, it will probably continue to be all in English after the new Missal is released this Advent.

That said, both the people’s and the priest’s parts will change. For a look at the people’s part, see nccbuscc.org/romanmissal/samples-people.shtml. For a look at some of the priest’s part, see nccbuscc.org/romanmissal/samples-priest-intro.shtml.

 

[adrift]

[edited]The US Bishops also have a side by side comparison for that try this link

 

[japhy]

Is there a good online resource that lists all of the changes in the liturgy?

I recommend the USCCB web site.

How will htese changes affect the parts of the mass that we regularly sing, like the Gloria? Will we just go back to the Latin or will we rewrite to accommodate the new text?

The translation of the Gloria has changed.
Glory to God in the highest,
and **on earth peace to people of good will.

We praise you, we bless you,
we adore you, we glorify you,**
we give you thanks for your great glory,
Lord God, heavenly King, O God, almighty Father.

Lord Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son,
Lord God, Lamb of God, Son of the Father,
you take away the sins of the world, have mercy on us;
you take away the sins of the world, receive our prayer;
you are seated at the right hand of the Father, have mercy on us.

For you alone are the Holy One,
you alone are the Lord,
you alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ,
with the Holy Spirit,
in the glory of God the Father. Amen.
There is new music being written for the new translation.

There is always the option to use the Latin text instead, which has several musical settings already. People even compose new settings for the Latin text, even today!