What is it with Poland?

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It’s true there are lots of great saints from the 20th century in many European nations.

I don’t know that much about Poland really. Are they one of the very few nations that ban abortion still? I was going to say the only one, but I’m likely wrong about that. Not sure.
 
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gracepoole said:
I guess I don’t see anything special about Poland, specifically, as a breeding ground for saints.
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Have you actually been to Poland and seen how they practice their faith there?

It’s a pretty special country for Catholics.

I don’t have a drop of Polish blood in me, nor do any of my relatives, but I could see it was special when I visited.
 
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the number of times that Poland has had armies running through it for wars she wasn’t involved in is impressive . . . might have something to do with her character.
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This is also my impression. The mere fact that it’s still there and keeps rebuilding after being destroyed and overtaken by non-Poles over and over and over and over again would be impressive to me even if they weren’t so Catholic.

I hope the next saint will be Bl. Jerzy Popielusko. He’s one of my favorites because my dad liked him when I was in high school. Many years later I learned he was martyred on my 21st birthday.
 
I’m guessing it is one of the “hold outs” for Catholicism, so to speak. But I suspect, Poland, too, in the last 20 years or so is fighting hard to maintain what they have.
 
The thing that concerns me a bit about Poland is that its desire for a national identity and to “keep what they have” and build on it (because a lot of stuff could use fixing up yet) can be interpreted as xenophobia towards outsiders.

Since I’m not Polish, I’m not going to judge them though. Also, to the extent they have some dislike of outsiders, I would find that understandable to some degree in view of what I have seen firsthand going on in other European countries that don’t seem well equipped to deal with mass influxes of immigrants from another culture.
 
Poles have an undying love for their faith and homeland, and will never allow anyone to stomp them out. It makes me proud of my dad’s Polish heritage.
 
gracepoole said:
I guess I don’t see anything special about Poland
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Christianity is diminishing rapidly across Europe under a tide of aggressive atheist secularism, but not in Poland. Now that is special. Christians in Europe need Poland as a beacon of faith to shine a light on the atheistic darkness that currently covers Europe.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
The thing that concerns me a bit about Poland is that its desire for a national identity and to “keep what they have” and build on it (because a lot of stuff could use fixing up yet) can be interpreted as xenophobia towards outsiders.

Since I’m not Polish, I’m not going to judge them though. Also, to the extent they have some dislike of outsiders, I would find that understandable to some degree in view of what I have seen firsthand going on in other European countries that don’t seem well equipped to deal with mass influxes of immigrants from another culture.
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We all should harshly judge xenophobia that morphs into antisemitism, as it has in Poland and several other European countries.
 
Brendan_64 said:
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gracepoole:
I guess I don’t see anything special about Poland
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Christianity is diminishing rapidly across Europe under a tide of aggressive atheist secularism, but not in Poland. Now that is special. Christians in Europe need Poland as a beacon of faith to shine a light on the atheistic darkness that currently covers Europe.
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The last part of comment, which you excised, is kind of important: “I guess I don’t see anything special about Poland, specifically, as a breeding ground for saints.”
 
I am persuaded by Fr. Michael Gaitley’s book mentioned above. At the very least, God has used Poland to initiate and spread the message of Divine Mercy, which is now firmly instituted in the Church (Mercy Sunday is tomorrow!).
However, that does not necessarily mean that Poland will “be special” or keep the faith in the future.
 
Brittany said:
Last I checked, Texas couldn’t handle being its own country. 😉
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Last time it tried, it couldn’t handle it, and got conquered. 🤣 (and, yes, I’m amazed at how many Texans think that Texas was on the Union side of the Civil War . . .)

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Well, it could- it sends more money to the federal government than it receives, it has its own power grid, it has the largest Nat’l guard of any of the states… but could it? I don’t know…

 
If you’ve been there, then I find your view to be unusual, but then again, I find a lot of people’s views on the Internet unusual.
I think Poland is a pretty special place myself. YMMV
 
Tis_Bearself said:
If you’ve been there, then I find your view to be unusual, but then again, I find a lot of people’s views on the Internet unusual.
I think Poland is a pretty special place myself. YMMV
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I didn’t say it isn’t special. It does seem, however, that I see things in Poland that you perhaps don’t see.
 
Hey, if it did, it would certainly be Christian (either Evangelical or Hispanic Catholic)
 
The reformation never took hold in Poland and the counter reformation was successful according To Wiki.
 
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