What is meant by being 'saved'?

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I’ve never completely understood this phrase, and recently a Southern Baptist friend of mine, who was honestly trying to understand the Catholic faith, asked me at what point do Catholics get saved. I’ve always thought that being ‘saved’ meant that one had accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and, honestly, I don’t remember a time in my life when I didn’t accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

I didn’t know for sure how to answer her, but I felt that maybe the sacrament of Confirmation was the closest thing to what she was asking. Can any protestants explain the idea of being saved to me? And can any Catholics explain if there is a comparable event in the Catholic church?

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God “saved” us when we were baptized by accepting us as His children. He also saves us every minute of our lives and will (hopefully) save us at the Last Judgement. Salvation is a journey not a moment in time.
 
creole54 said:
I’ve never completely understood this phrase, and recently a Southern Baptist friend of mine, who was honestly trying to understand the Catholic faith, asked me at what point do Catholics get saved. I’ve always thought that being ‘saved’ meant that one had accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and, honestly, I don’t remember a time in my life when I didn’t accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

I didn’t know for sure how to answer her, but I felt that maybe the sacrament of Confirmation was the closest thing to what she was asking. Can any protestants explain the idea of being saved to me? And can any Catholics explain if there is a comparable event in the Catholic church?

Thanks
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Before accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior, you were lost, {not saved}. Once you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, you are found, {saved).

I hope this helps alittle.
 
rev_kevin said:
Before accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior, you were lost, {not saved}. Once you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, you are found, {saved).
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We know this is false because the Bible says:
[BIBLEDRB]1 Tim 2:3-4[/BIBLEDRB]

Thus if everyone who does not “accept ] Christ as your Lord and Savior” is “lost” or “not saved,” then abortion victims, children who die before the age of reason, the mentally infirm and the invincibly ignorant (such as devout Jews who have no clue who Jesus is) are all “lost” and “not saved.” Because God desires their salvation as clearly stated by Scripture, and because they have done nothing to forefeit salvation, God would not be able to accomplish all that He wills under Rev Kev’s definition of salvation, leading to the conclusion that God is not omnipotent. Hence if Rev Kev is correct then Christianity is false.
 
creole54 said:
I’ve never completely understood this phrase, and recently a Southern Baptist friend of mine, who was honestly trying to understand the Catholic faith, asked me at what point do Catholics get saved. I’ve always thought that being ‘saved’ meant that one had accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord & Savior and, honestly, I don’t remember a time in my life when I didn’t accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

I didn’t know for sure how to answer her, but I felt that maybe the sacrament of Confirmation was the closest thing to what she was asking. Can any protestants explain the idea of being saved to me? And can any Catholics explain if there is a comparable event in the Catholic church?

Thanks
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We are saved by our Baptism. This was made possible for us by Christ by his Cross.

I like you, cannot remember a time in my life without Christ as our Savior.

The reason we say we are saved by our Baptism is because when we are baptised in the CC usually as infants we are saved from original sin by the Grace that is given to us.

In the RCC we begin our life as an infant with Baptism because when we are baptised our souls are given to Christ. But Baptism is only the first of many sacraments.

Next as you know is Confession, and then Holy Communion. Confirmation is the last step in the RCC that makes us Adults. What that means is we should have a complete understanding of our faith. Our Parents did their part, and the rest is for us to continue in our study. But we have pretty much received the Sacramets to be in full communion with our life in Christ and his Church.

These are the 4 Sacraments also that Adults receive in RCIA.
 
My understanding from my evangelical days is that it means you’re going to go to heaven, no questions asked.
 
rev_kevin said:
Before accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior, you were lost, {not saved}. Once you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, you are found, {saved).

I hope this helps alittle.
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I accept Christ as my Lord and Savior. Am I saved? BTW I am a devout Catholic.

God bless you
 
Cat_Herder said:
We know this is false because the Bible says:
[BIBLEDRB]1 Tim 2:3-4[/BIBLEDRB]

Thus if everyone who does not “accept ] Christ as your Lord and Savior” is “lost” or “not saved,” then abortion victims, children who die before the age of reason, the mentally infirm and the invincibly ignorant (such as devout Jews who have no clue who Jesus is) are all “lost” and “not saved.” Because God desires their salvation as clearly stated by Scripture, and because they have done nothing to forefeit salvation, God would not be able to accomplish all that He wills under Rev Kev’s definition of salvation, leading to the conclusion that God is not omnipotent. Hence if Rev Kev is correct then Christianity is false.
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What does saved mean to you?
 
I am fairly new to the Catholic faith. I came from a protestant background and when I studied Greek I was shown something very interesting. This is from the King James version of the bible:

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The translators of the KJV tried to indicate the continuous action of certain verbs by adding “th” to the end of those verbs. Such verbs should have a helping verb. Thus believeth should be translated “is believing”. Just look at all the verbs that have the ending throughout the New Testament.

“Being Saved” is an ongoing process. You can’t go shake the preachers hand and pray a simple prayer and expect to be saved. We have to deny ourselves and take up our cross and follow Jesus.
 
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What do you think?
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Why the run around rev? You said once someone accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior they are saved. I am telling you I have done this, and continue to so am I, a Catholic, saved in your eyes?

God bless
 
I forgot to mention that the translators of the Douay-Rheims version also indicated continous action the same way as the KJV
 
If you believe the Apostle’s and Nicaean creed, bear witness to that before men, and repent of your sins that you’ve committed, then most Protestants will consider you saved.
Romans 10:6-13 (NAB)
6 But the righteousness that comes from faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will go up into heaven?’ (that is, to bring Christ down)
7 or ‘Who will go down into the abyss?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).”
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we preach),
9 for, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved.
11 For the scripture says, “No one who believes in him will be put to shame.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him.
13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
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Cat Herder;7524490]We know this is false because the Bible says:
[BIBLEDRB]1 Tim 2:3-4[/BIBLEDRB]
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Thus if everyone who does not “accept ] Christ as your Lord and Savior” is “lost” or “not saved,” then abortion victims, children who die before the age of reason, the mentally infirm and the invincibly ignorant (such as devout Jews who have no clue who Jesus is) are all “lost” and “not saved.”
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I don’t know about your god but my God is merciful. If by no fault of their own, I’m sure my God will save them, I don’t know about your god, but my God will. Oh by the way, are people outside the Catholic Church saved?
Because God desires their salvation as clearly stated by Scripture, and because they have done nothing to forefeit salvation, God would not be able to accomplish all that He wills under Rev Kev’s definition of salvation, leading to the conclusion that God is not omnipotent. Hence if Rev Kev is correct then Christianity is false.
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This will not turn into a **bash rev kevin **thread, as it seems to be in the makings.
 
rev_kevin said:
I don’t know about your god but my God is merciful. If by no fault of their own, I’m sure my God will save them, I don’t know about your god, but my God will. Oh by the way, are people outside the Catholic Church saved?
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We don’t know rev, we are not God. We trust in His mercifulness like you do but He owes it to no one to save them. The human ideal of fairness does not equate to divine justice.
This will not turn into a **bash rev kevin **thread, as it seems to be in the makings.
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What have you done that there are threads that bash you :eek:

Cheer up rev

God bless you
 
Roman_Catholic said:
Why the run around rev? You said once someone accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior they are saved. I am telling you I have done this, and continue to so am I, a Catholic, saved in your eyes?

God bless
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Its not my eyes that count.
What does being Catholic have to do with being saved?
 
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