What is more meaningful than giving up meat?

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I found out that we are supposed to give up meat on all Fridays,
not just Lent, or choose something more meaningful for Fridays
not in Lent. I am really trying hard to think of something more
meaningful than giving up meat but I can’t think of anything. Even
giving up meat isn’t meaningful to me, just a great sign of
Catholic unity. After Jesus died so that we may have life and
have it to the full, sacrificing just doesn’t seem meaningful unless
there is some greater good to come from it.

I’d like to know if there is anyone who has thought of a Friday
sacrifice for not during Lent that seems more meaningful to
them than giving up meat?
 
I don’t know what you mean by meaningful, so I take it to mean, something that represents a real sacrifice. For instance a vegetarian would probably want to find something else to give up . for me what makes sense is to give up something I “can’t live without” like something I eat almost every day, something I crave. For me it’s bread, probably something else for other people. Another thing that seems very valuable is to “give up” the need to speak, not to make a snappy comeback or critical remark, not to comment on a situation, not to criticize, not to try and have the last word.
 
Exactly - find something that you really enjoy and do or have a lot of, but can live without, and consciously give it up for the whole day.

This might be your favourite hobby or sport, music, tv, non-essential internet, telephone, or reading, socialising, maybe something as simple as coffee.

Or try fasting (which as you probably know doesn’t have to mean eating nothing, but small meals and no snacking). I find that a difficult one!

And try to increase your prayer, spiritual reading and/or good works in proportion too!
 
If giving up something isn’t meaningful to you, perhaps trying doing something instead, something distasteful or annoying to you, yet helpful in some way to others. Perhaps clean the toilets. Do it well, with a smile. 🙂
 
If giving up something isn’t meaningful to you, perhaps trying doing something instead, something distasteful or annoying to you, yet helpful in some way to others. Perhaps clean the toilets. Do it well, with a smile. 🙂
How did you know this about me? Yes it would certainly be
more meaningful but I wonder if it would count as a Friday fast
in place of giving up meat?
 
There is a lot of stuff to wonder about here, like what exactly have the bishops done to Friday anyway? My psychic powers don’t extend quite that far. 😃 However, they have likely at least allowed you to substitute a penance of your own choice, and that concept includes works of charity. But it is my understanding that they do give pride of place to the choice of abstinence from meat.

Here is a somewhat relevant quote from canon law, my emphasis.
Can. 1253 The conference of bishops can determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence as well as substitute other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety, in whole or in part, for abstinence and fast.
 
I don’t know what you mean by meaningful, so I take it to mean, something that represents a real sacrifice. For instance a vegetarian would probably want to find something else to give up . for me what makes sense is to give up something I “can’t live without” like something I eat almost every day, something I crave. For me it’s bread, probably something else for other people. Another thing that seems very valuable is to “give up” the need to speak, not to make a snappy comeback or critical remark, not to comment on a situation, not to criticize, not to try and have the last word.
Frankly, I have no idea. So I just abstain from meat EVERY Friday. It’s traditional, after all, and I don’t have to worry if I am trying to find an easier, softer penance. :cool:
 
I know what you mean, this is the safe way, and you don’t have
to think about it, but it’s not Friday yet. I still have time. I find it
unusual that Pug has chosen to make an example of the thing I
really hate most, yet it is necessary. I feel like God’s trying to
tell me something, and I mean to listen. Yet if someone has
another idea that they already do, I’d like to know about it.
 
Giving up meat would be no big sacrifice to me… I don’t care for meat all that much. Giving up CA would be though…

now you’ve got me thinking… :hmmm:
 
For non Lent Fridays I try to do one of three things:

Give up meat
Attend daily Mass
Give up CAF

Most of the time I attend Mass and choose to do one of the others if for some reason I can’t attend Mass.
 
If giving up something isn’t meaningful to you, perhaps trying doing something instead, something distasteful or annoying to you, yet helpful in some way to others. Perhaps clean the toilets. Do it well, with a smile. 🙂
I’m doing it! Also, it is suddenly very meaningful to eat grilled fish on Friday since that’s what Jesus served His disciples for a
surprise breakfast when He rose from the dead.
 
I’m doing it! Also, it is suddenly very meaningful to eat grilled fish on Friday since that’s what Jesus served His disciples for a
surprise breakfast when He rose from the dead.
Cheeto1, I’m so glad! May the Lord bless you in all your ways.
 
Anything could be meaningful if we totally give it up for the total love of God.

Each sacrifice depends on each individual and situation. In a poor country, giving up meat could not be a difficult task for someone; on the other hand, sharing a bottle of icy cool water to his poor neighbor might be a huge task.
 
I’d like to know if there is anyone who has thought of a Friday
sacrifice for not during Lent that seems more meaningful to
them than giving up meat?
Not me. Abstainance (giving up meat) is an old tradition, and I am too old and too lazy to try and figure out something to substitute for giving up meat. 😦
 
Give up sin, even the tiny ones.

It takes a lot of effort. You probably will fall many times. But if persistant at trying to remain sin free, you will grow in holiness.

Bad habits can be replaced with good ones.
 
If giving up meat is not meaningful, you should still do it (alongside with something else which is more meaningful to you…)

My favourite quote from a film (Chariots of Fire): “You can praise the Lord by peeling a speck if you peel it to perfection.”

And my favourite quote from a kid: the priest asked some children about Lenten abstinence, and what they think vegetarians should do instead of giving up meat. A little girl, in an inspired voice, hit the nail on the head: “Well, they could give up a favourite snack, for example, carrots.”

Keep it simple, that’s what I say. If you want to make it really meaningful, you could spend the time/money you would spend on meat (preparing or buying it) to charity or prayer.
 
I found out that we are supposed to give up meat on all Fridays, not just Lent, or choose something more meaningful for Fridays not in Lent.
No, by default we’re supposed to abstain from meat on all Fridays, period. However, national conferences of bishops can adjust the requirements and they can indeed do something else than requiring the abstinence from meat on all Fridays.

The American (USA) conference of bishops has decided to lift the requirement of abstinence from meat on all Fridays except for Lent. What they did is more like remaking the rules without the requirement than just lifting it. At any rate, Americans are not bound to abstain from meat on Fridays. This doesn’t mean some other nations aren’t. For example, here in Poland, meat on Fridays is banned. And no, can’t choose something more meaningful instead. Only if we can’t choose the ingredients, then we’re supposed to do some act of charity in exchange, but we’re allowed to go ahead and consume that meat.

Also, I would like you to look at the logical order of things: Person X wants to eat meat on Friday. Therefore, person X looks for a reason to do so. Then, person X finds out about the idea of doing something more meaningful. So person X comes up with something objectively more meaningful than abstinence from meat - but costing him less. The beginning of things is person X wanting meat on Friday. The meat is more meaningful then than it would seem. After all, it seems to be a bigger deal to go without meat for that day than to do the more meaningful thing, not? 😉
I am really trying hard to think of something more
meaningful than giving up meat but I can’t think of anything.
So don’t give up meat? 😉 The fact that you do something else doesn’t mean you can’t give up on meat. You can do both.
Even giving up meat isn’t meaningful to me, just a great sign of Catholic unity. After Jesus died so that we may have life and have it to the full, sacrificing just doesn’t seem meaningful unless there is some greater good to come from it.
It’s also a sign of uniting with Jesus and abstaining from something which shed blood to feed us. It’s not just about the nourishing value of meat or the flavour of it, although it would certainly look wrong to abstain from meat but go on with sweets, for instance.
I’d like to know if there is anyone who has thought of a Friday sacrifice for not during Lent that seems more meaningful to
them than giving up meat?
Once again, if you don’t want the meat but you want a bigger sacrifice, then why the swap? You can certainly add to the sacrifice, it’s not like you can do just one thing.

I can tell you how it looks here, which, according to my information, is how it looked everywhere until rules got changed in individual countries. Friday is a proper penitential day. The penitential character precludes dancing, loud partying, other such. Don’t know what if one tried to force a wedding on Friday, but it probably wouldn’t happen. As for the fasting and abstinence, it’s one word in our language and the separation is not obvious. No meat is the rule and the requirement, but some people will also limit the quantity of food they eat or give up the more pleasurable kinds, such as sweets. Alcohol is generally frowned upon, although there’s no prohibition. Similarly sweets. If you asked a priest here, he would probably tell you there 's no prohibition but it would be better to avoid alcohol or sweets.

And in the USA, the conference of bishops lifted the requirements and replaced them with an exhortation to do such acts of charity or sacrifices as the faithful find fitting. This means you can give something up or give some alms or work for a charity or go out of your way to help people. Or all.

Naturally, if you’re not from the USA or in there (or some other country where the requirement of abstinence from meat has been lifted), you are bound by what your own conference of bishops has decreed in the matter.

Note that even if you’re free to eat meat, it doesn’t suddenly make you wrong and defiant to give it up. The bishops may be lifting those requirements out of leniency or out of wanting the faithful to come up with some sacrifices that cost them, or some more invdividual and specific penance, but they don’t do this to deride the default discipline of the canon law or to “modernise” the Church. It’s not a meat affirmative action.
 
This might be your favourite hobby or sport, music, tv, non-essential internet, telephone, or reading, socialising, maybe something as simple as coffee.
As “simple as coffee”? You’re talking life threatening! Never! I can’t do it!
 
And in the USA, the conference of bishops lifted the requirements and replaced them with an exhortation to do such acts of charity or sacrifices as the faithful find fitting.
Well, what do you think of this? Are you offended? Should we
all have the same requirements to preserve unity?

The way I see it, it seems appropriate to lift the requirement in
honor of the resurrection. It’s like a sign that we are not bound
to food rules under Mosaic law, but that we live in freedom.
That if we don’t follow it, it must be replaced with something more
meaningful to us, is like a sign that in our freedom we are not
free from our responsibility to love others and to strive for holiness.

…God bless us, every one…❤️
 
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