What is NATURAL in sexual desires as stated in the Catechism?

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There is danger in using the limited two valued logic of children. What other way might there be to frame the question such that you can have the magesterium and a radically new understanding? ( What is the root meaning of radical?)
 
There is danger in using the limited two valued logic of children. What other way might there be to frame the question such that you can have the magesterium and a radically new understanding? ( What is the root meaning of radical?)
What is two valued logic? Is Christ the authority behind His Church? Did He say He who hears you hears Me?

Would your “radical” new understanding of truth contradict Sacred Tradition and His magisterium?
 
Two valued logic is reasoning from an “either/or” standpoint. It is more useful that infantile “me/me” logic and less useful than “both/and” which is at least a doorway to much larger and inclusive ways of understanding oneself as a phenomenon included in Creation. It takes at least eleven such dimentions to even think with some level of adequacy about the relationships evident in physicality. It may not serve us well in searching out deeper matters to stay with a sytem of evaluation that has only two components without examining the deeper dimensions inherent even in those.

There is a radical understanding that simply puts His magisterium on to a far more profound basis of interpretation than is ordinarily interpreted. Perhaps if you read something like Maurice Nicol’s The New Man or Gina Cerminara’s very unfortunatley and misleadingly titled Insights for the Age of Aquarius: a handbook for religious sanity we could have a conversation about this matter on a more reasonable footing.

The whole thing hinges on what Jesus Himself demonstarted by teaching in parables: there are levels of meaning in everything. Surely in the course of your scholastic education you have had numerous “AHA!!!” moments. You could not have had the later ones without the earlier ones, and the later ones were a deeper.more refined understanding. Sometimes they gave you an entirely different perspective as you comprehended the conectivities already inherent in the previous ones but hidden due to your level of comprehension. It is just how we learn. It is likely a mistake that that way of learning should be excluded from our comprehension of His magisterium. At His time the teaching language of parables included at least three levels of meaning, It was so in order to protect the unready from potentially premature presentation of ideas that could be harmful if incorrecty presented. I beleive, therefore, that we could at least agree that understanding can grow, and something that seems absolutely so can yet yield a further revalation which percipitates us into a new mode of perception.

All I am saying is that there is a posssibility of seeing more deeply into the meaning of the magisterium. Teleology (yea!) had been mentioned before, and epistomology, phenomenology, semiotics, all these which are fancy words for the work of growing to understand ourselves by introspection and testing, are an ever unfolding of the Glory of God in, for, and as our experience.
 
Any “deeper” understanding cannot contradict what the magisterium has always taught. That would mean truth can contradict truth. That is illogical.
 
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