What is Non-Denominational?

[andrewstx]

Why does that offend you? They are just labels. I’m not offended that the Catholic Church considers itself the “true” church. I personally don’t believe it, but I’m not offended that the Catholic Church believes that about itself. And if a Christian prefers to consider him or herself a “Christian only” without any adjectives then what is so wrong with that? As long as they treat me with respect why should I get offended over what they choose to call themselves?

Thier is a big difference, the Catholic Church has never said no-one else is Christian, which is what a lot of these “christian only” folk imply.

Perhaps it could be my background coming into play. I was raised and dunked in the so-called, self proclaimed “Churches of Christ”, and they did outright say they are the ONLY Christians. The “un-denominational churches of Christ” never existed before 1906. So by extension they say that everyone born before that date is doomed.

Say I wanted to have my 2 month old daughter baptised in one of the “Christian only” “non-denominational” churches, they would refuse of course.
Thereby making their “non-denominational” title a lie.

What if I wanted to buy a bible which had the duetero-canonical books in it at a “christian” book store, it would not be available.

All the time I hear “Christian or Catholic” as if they were different things. NO.

So please continue with your “christian” subculture that excludes everyone but Evangelical Fundamentalists.

It is very bad in the sowyuth (south) which I can’t escape from due to poverty.

 

[CopticChristian]

Thier is a big difference, the Catholic Church has never said no-one else is Christian, which is what a lot of these “christian only” folk imply.

Perhaps it could be my background coming into play. I was raised and dunked in the so-called, self proclaimed “Churches of Christ”, and they did outright say they are the ONLY Christians. The “un-denominational churches of Christ” never existed before 1906. So by extension they say that everyone born before that date is doomed.

Say I wanted to have my 2 month old daughter baptised in one of the “Christian only” “non-denominational” churches, they would refuse of course.
Thereby making their “non-denominational” title a lie.

What if I wanted to buy a bible which had the duetero-canonical books in it at a “christian” book store, it would not be available.

All the time I hear “Christian or Catholic” as if they were different things. NO.

So please continue with your “christian” subculture that excludes everyone but Evangelical Fundamentalists.

It is very bad in the sowyuth (south) which I can’t escape from due to poverty.

Itwin,

If a “Christian” bookstore carries books by the American Bible socieyt then you can get a Bible with the Deuterocanonicals. If not they should order it.

amazon.com/Good-News-Bible-Deuterocanonicals-apocrypha-GNT/dp/1585161578

Good News Bible With Deuterocanonicals/apocrypha-GNT
American Bible Society

I also believe that if you have been baptized in the trinitarian formula and for some reason believed that your 2 year old daughter required Baptism then you could Baptize in the trinitarian formula and it would be good. If you do, keep a record. I believe that any Catholic Church would honor this.

 

[andrewstx]

Coptic, those were just “what ifs” not literal to make a point. I’m 57 and don’t even have a 2 mo grand-daughter. My point is if those churches were really “non-denominational” they would have no problem baptising a 2 month old. But they really are Baptists and refuse to baptise anyone under the “age of accountablity” that has not already “got saved”.

I have several bibles from a bookstore that does not conceal it’s Cathlicism. It’s called the Ave Maria shop. We also have an Episcopal bookstore here, called an Episcopal bookstore.

A “Christian” bookstore can be anything and you won’t have a clue to what it is. We have a huge Mardell bookstore with tons of KJV and NIV bibles and not one Catholic bible. Tons of tee shirts, CDs of rock and country CDs with semi Christian lyrics, but no gregorian chant.

Lots of landscapes and secular art work, but no crucfixes.

And the “christian” sub-culture is harmful, they have their own businesses which they patronise as far as possible to the exclusion of other businesses.

They like the “church of Christ” refuse often to acknoledge (sp) others as Christian.

 

[rinnie]

A friend of mine who left the Catholic church some years ago was re-baptized into his new church which he calls non-denominational. When I mentioned to my friend that basically means he joined a Protestant church, I was rebuked and told that they who consider themselves “non-denominational” means that they don’t conform to any religion because there is no religion and no church that can save a person that only Jesus saves.

So basically my question is what is non-denominational and if only Jesus saves than why do we need all these churches? I was taught that “the Church” is the doorway that leads to salvation in Christ.

If its not Catholic its Protestant!

 

[novusCatholic]

To go back to the beginning I find members of “non-denominational” denominations offensive, along with people who charectorise themselves as “christians” only.

I kind of see where they are comming from, and it would be nice if there were no denominations, and just one church.

That is exactly what we have in the Catholic Church.

I was one of that crowd. I wasn’t trying to be offensive. I just honestly didn’t know better.

I grew up in an independent church. Although I didn’t have an adequate historical understanding of Christianity, I knew enough that it didn’t make sense to me that there could be so many different denominations. They all had their own take on things, and some of their beliefs were completely opposing. I knew that there is only one God, so rather than being labeld along with one of these groups, I chose to simply call myself “Christian”.

Fast forward well into adulthood, and something sparked my interest in Catholicism. I read, and read, and read… Once I became convinced that the Catholic Church is the original Church, and after I realized that her teachings today match those of the Apostles and the first generations of Christians, then I knew that I had to convert!

I don’t understand how I went so long without being introduced to the honest facts about Catholicism. I wish that I had known 20 years sooner. I wish that my parents had known. I wish that my grandparents had known. I figure that most people stay in the faith tradition that they were brought up in. Such was the case with us. As for the Catholic Church, we only knew the misrepresentative caricatures that are laced throughout our culture.

I hope that the Church and Catholics in general will continue to put more effort into reaching out and sharing our truths with those who just don’t know. To me, what is offensive is that some people can go their whole lives without someone sharing those truths with them.

 

[VikingGirlTBird]

So basically my question is what is non-denominational and if only Jesus saves than why do we need all these churches? I was taught that “the Church” is the doorway that leads to salvation in Christ.

Greetings Peace2U2!

How are you?

Non-denominational churches are Christian churches that generally call themselves “Christians/Very Basic Christians/Non-denominational Christians!”, generally believe in (All of or most of.) the very universal basics of Christianity, and are not"officially"/do not “offically” follow Roman Catholic Churches, Orthodox Christian Churches, Protestant Churches, or other “Other” Christian Denominational Churches. Non-denominational churches generally believe in, practices, and teaches (All of or most of.) the very universal basic Christian beliefs, practices, teachings, and etc that most Christian Denominations believe in, practices, and teaches without following the “extra” non-universal/non-basic Christian beliefs, practices, and teachings that the other Christian denominations believe in, practices, and teaches (Basically the “extra” non-universal/non-basic Christian beliefs, practices, and teachings that classify Christian denominations into other various Christian denominations.).

Most Christian denominations/churches believe in the very universal basic Christian belief that Jesus Christ died for all of humanity and for all of humanity’s sins and that accepting Jesus Christ as one’s only savior and believing that only Jesus Christ died for all them and for all of their sins that one becomes a “true/saved” Christian and becomes saved/goes to Heaven. Also, most Christian denominations/churches believe that “true/saved” Christians don’t nessusarally have to “officially” belong to Christian denominations/churches and/or go to church to become saved/go to Heaven because of what I just said above.

The Universal Christian Church is the unit of and is made up of all “true/saved” Christians/All of the Christian Denominations/Non-Denominations/Churches that believe in the very universal basic Christian belief that Jesus Christ died for all of humanity and for all of humanity’s sins and that accepting Jesus Christ as their only savior and believing that only Jesus Christ died for all them and for all of their sins that they all become “true/saved” Christians and that they all become saved/go to Heaven.

Also, churches are physically places and/or congegrations of Christians that gather in a place to worship God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, practice Christianity, teach about Christianity, and etc.

PS: The Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Christian Church both believe that they are the “original/true” Church that Jesus Christ himself founded and that generally Christians/non-Christians outside their churches are not generally “true/saved/born again” Christians and are not saved/going to Heaven unless they are saved by Baptism by blood or Baptism by Desire.

I really all this information (Which are really my very own religious beliefs/opinions that are mainly based on true facts/religious beliefs/opinions/expreiances.) really helps you! God bless you always! Amen! Peace!

Love,
VikingGirlTBird!

 

[novusCatholic]

PS: The Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Christian Church both believe that they are the “original/true” Church that Jesus Christ himself founded and that generally Christians/non-Christians outside their churches are not generally “true/saved/born again” Christians and are not saved/going to Heaven unless they are saved by Baptism by blood or Baptism by Desire.

From the Cathecism of the Catholic Church:

818 - However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

847 - This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation.

Who belongs to the Catholic Church?

836 - All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God. . . . And to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally all mankind, called by God’s grace to salvation.

838 - The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter." Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.

 

[kempo1]

Hi vikingirl,
I was wondering about a couple of issues being that you are part of this new age church. Dont you think all this consistant seperation by christians does more harm than good. Have you ever looked at the state christianity is in? Its like going to a buffet where you can pick and choose what you want and disregard the rest i mean no unity. Have you ever considered that the Apostles and the early christians laid a foundation, a church with structure and traditions to follow that we may be united as one in faith. With all the disection and seperation chaos has ensued and some of the so called churches look more like a zoo. And i dont mean this toward you or your church but i have witnezsed some crazy thing. No doubt there are some wonderful christians outside of the Holy Catholic Church but sometimes i feel sorry for them because they seem lost. Example: My father in law has been to so many churches it would take me all night to list them. He would go to one for a while find something wrong or missing and then leave which has lead him to where he is now. Sitting in his chair at home every sunday now because he claims some televangelist is his church now. He has searched his whole life. A couple weeks back i asked if he wanted to finally quit the search because i know where he could find the fullness of faith he has always craved. The Catholic church. He didnt receive that very well and began attacking the priests etc. So i backed off let him vent his frustration and gave him an open invitation. Still no answer. Anyways i have seen this a lot, you know the searching thing, so was wondering what your view is on this?

 

[SteveVH]

From the Cathecism of the Catholic Church:

818 - However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers . . . . All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church.

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

847 - This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation.

Who belongs to the Catholic Church?

836 - All men are called to this catholic unity of the People of God. . . . And to it, in different ways, belong or are ordered: the Catholic faithful, others who believe in Christ, and finally all mankind, called by God’s grace to salvation.

838 - The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter." Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church.

One can always depend on the Catechism.

 

[PRmerger]

Non-denominational churches are Christian churches that generally call themselves “Christians/Very Basic Christians/Non-denominational Christians!”, generally believe in (All of or most of.) the very universal basics of Christianity,

Who decides what is the “very universal basics of Christianity”?

For the Bible does not tell us.

For discernment on what is a “universal basic” we must rely on man, yes?

So who decides whether, say, “baptism now saves you” is a universal basic or a secondary tenet of Christianity?

 

[VikingGirlTBird]

Hi vikingirl,
I was wondering about a couple of issues being that you are part of this new age church. shrug:

Hi Kempo1!

How are you?

I believe that God, especially Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, The Twelve Apostles, and Early Christians did created and established Christ’s Church on earth so that all of humanity can be united as Christians/Christian Brothers and Sisters/“Adopted” Children of God. As a non-denominational Christian, I believe that Christ’s Church was not meant to be of a particular Christian denomination (The Roman Catholic Church/The Orthodox Christian Church.) but, simply a Christian Church with many different denominational Christians/non-denominational Christians/Messianic Jews all united by their belief in Jesus Christ. But, if Jesus Christ did indeed created and established “one true original.” Church (Christ’s Church.) that he wanted all Christians to be apart of, I don’t think we will ever come close to proving that he did because of all these different kinds of historical/archaelogical/religious/sciencetific evidence/theories/interpretations/etc. Even if we did one day found out/proven (Which I extremely highly doubt it.) that he indeed did what I just said above, that there would still be many different Christians/Non-Christians who would say that they simply do not understand, believe in, agree with, and etc about what we had just proven/found out about “Christ’s true/original Church.” that no matter how hard we all try to convince them all of the truth…that they would never probully believe the truth no matter what happens. Religion is ALWAYS going to extremely consiversal and we can never ever prove nor disprove any thing, most things, or many things about religion extremely unfortunitly. That is the extremely sad truth about all of this!

I don’t think all this consistant seperation between Christian denominations neither causes more good or bad today. Instead, I think all of this consistant seperation mostly causes neutrualality (Neither good or bad.) today. Most Christian denominations are more alike than they are different from each other and they are mostly all united by the belief in Jesus Christ, even though they are different in many aspects and will most likely they never be completley united as Christians. Most Christian denominations are extremely good Christians and love, support, respect, and etc other Christian denominations as their fellow Christians/Christian Brothers and Sisters/Human Beings. Only a few of them are extremely evil, radical, and terrorist like that they concently persecute, discrimminate, and etc against other Christian denominations/Non-Christian religions (Like most or some Christian denominations did back in history.). Yes, I believe that some Christian denominations (Especially the extremely evil ones.) seem extremely “lost”, unusual, strange, and bizarre because myself and other Christian denominations do not know too much about them, don’t understand many things about them and/or don’t agree with them on many things.

As for your father-in-law, I think it is really great that he is trying to his very best to search for and really trying to mostly or completely learn alot about and understand alot about different religions/religious denominations so that he can pick the very best/right one for him. But, extremely unfortunitly, many people can take all of their lives, end up being extremely lost and confused, lost their faith completely, can not find the very best/right religion for themselves not matter how hard they try, and etc while doing their very best to search for the very best/right religion for themselves. I think the very best/right thing to do right now is to pray to God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit for guidence/help because they are completely sovereign, they have complete control over all things in existence, they can guide/misguide people, they are all knowing/seeing/hearing/understanding, they know what is best, they are all loving/forgiving, they never ever break their promises, and etc. Hopefully all of them will answer your prayers (Even though they may not answer your prayers the way you want them too, that they will not always give you what you want but, will give what is best for you/everybody, and etc.) but, if they do not grant your wish please find peace in that everything is part of God’s plan, everything happens for a very good reason, God works in mysterious ways, and that God is all loving/forgiving.

I will most definently pray for you and your father-in-law! Best of wishes and good luck to you two! May God bless you two always! Hugs! Peace!

Love,
VikingGirlTBird!

 

[CopticChristian]

Hi Kempo1!

How are you?

I believe that God, especially Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, The Twelve Apostles, and Early Christians did created and established Christ’s Church on earth so that all of humanity can be united as Christians/Christian Brothers and Sisters/“Adopted” Children of God. As a non-denominational Christian, I believe that Christ’s Church was not meant to be of a particular Christian** denomination (The Roman Catholic Church/The Orthodox Christian Church.) but, simply a Christian Church with many different denominational **Christians/**non-denominational **Christians/Messianic Jews all united by their belief in Jesus Christ. But, if Jesus Christ did indeed created and established “one true original.” Church (Christ’s Church.) that he wanted all Christians to be apart of, I don’t think we will ever come close to proving that he did because of all these different kinds of historical/archaelogical/religious/sciencetific evidence/theories/interpretations/etc. Even if we did one day found out/proven (Which I extremely highly doubt it.) that he indeed did what I just said above, that there would still be many different Christians/Non-Christians who would say that they simply do not understand, believe in, agree with, and etc about what we had just proven/found out about “Christ’s true/original Church.” that no matter how hard we all try to convince them all of the truth…that they would never probully believe the truth no matter what happens. Religion is ALWAYS going to extremely consiversal and we can never ever prove nor disprove any thing, most things, or many things about religion extremely unfortunitly. That is the extremely sad truth about all of this!

I don’t think all this consistant seperation between Christian **denominations **neither causes more good or bad today. Instead, I think all of this consistant seperation mostly causes neutrualality (Neither good or bad.) today. Most Christian **denominations are more alike than they are different from each other and they are mostly all united by the belief in Jesus Christ, even though they are different in many aspects and will most likely they never be completley united as Christians. Most Christian denominations **are extremely good Christians and love, support, respect, and etc other Christian denominations as their fellow Christians/Christian Brothers and Sisters/Human Beings. Only a few of them are extremely evil, radical, and terrorist like that they concently persecute, discrimminate, and etc against other Christian **denominations/**Non-Christian religions (Like most or some Christian denominations did back in history.). Yes, I believe that some Christian denominations (Especially the extremely evil ones.) seem extremely “lost”, unusual, strange, and bizarre because myself and other Christian **denominations **do not know too much about them, don’t understand many things about them and/or don’t agree with them on many things.

As for your father-in-law, I think it is really great that he is trying to his very best to search for and really trying to mostly or completely learn alot about and understand alot about different religions/religious denominations so that he can pick the very best/right one for him. But, extremely unfortunitly, many people can take all of their lives, end up being extremely lost and confused, lost their faith completely, can not find the very best/right religion for themselves not matter how hard they try, and etc while doing their very best to search for the very best/right religion for themselves. I think the very best/right thing to do right now is to pray to God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit for guidence/help because they are completely sovereign, they have complete control over all things in existence, they can guide/misguide people, they are all knowing/seeing/hearing/understanding, they know what is best, they are all loving/forgiving, they never ever break their promises, and etc. Hopefully all of them will answer your prayers (Even though they may not answer your prayers the way you want them too, that they will not always give you what you want but, will give what is best for you/everybody, and etc.) but, if they do not grant your wish please find peace in that everything is part of God’s plan, everything happens for a very good reason, God works in mysterious ways, and that God is all loving/forgiving.

I will most definently pray for you and your father-in-law! Best of wishes and good luck to you two! May God bless you two always! Hugs! Peace!

Love,
VikingGirlTBird!

Viking Girl,

I ask you to understand that the notion of denomination is Protestant. Therefore when you speak of this unity and that unity or this and that you are speaking of Protestants. There is a thread somewhere here on the notion of “non-denominations” and non-denominations are Protestant, Oh, it is this one…

So as you read this ask yourself this.

Is it fair to say that those that believe in God believe that God is all powerful?

Is it fair to say that those that believe in God and are Christian believe that the Universe was created by and for the Son who is also God?

Is it fair to say that those that believe in God and are Christian believe tha the Son came to Earth became man and sent the Spirit as another paraclete?

Is is fair to say that those that follow Christ believe that the Bible is the word of God?

If the Bible is the word of God and God is all poweful and God cannot lie…then when you read your Bible rethink what you wrote while contemplating this…

Jesus said “I will build my Church”…did He lie?

Paul says that the Church is the Bride of Christ? Was Paul whacko?

Jesus said that from the beginning concerning Divorce it was Adam and Eve…divorce is not allowed…do you believe that?

Paul says in Romans that the Old Covenant is like a dead spouse so that the people of God can join with Christ as a new spouse. Was Paul looney?

So if Christ is the head of the Church, and Christ is God/man, and if God is all powerful and said he would build a Church through which the manifold wisdom of God is known, to be the pillar and foundation of truth and the Church is the Bride and Jesus said that union is forever and no divorce…

If God created the heavens and the Earth as we believe …do you want me to believe that the Bride of Christ went astray?..do you want me to believe that the Bride of Christ was dissolved? Do you want me to believe that the Bride of Christ was divorced or died?

If God can keep the heavens and the Earth in play…then are you questioning the ability of Christ as the head of the Church to keep His Church together or did He lie when He said He would build His Church…

If He built it, it was as if it was a new heaven and Earth…and when you look in the sky and see the stars…you believe that they are there because God created and maintained them… Do you want me to believe that creation conquered Christ? Do you imagine that He can build and keep His Church?

I do imagine that it is so.

 

[rinnie]

A big problem I see with the so called ND church’s is this. It tries to be a one size fits all.

I was told I can go as a RC and you can go as a Protestant etc. We all pray together to our God.

So my question would be where is the teaching? Guidance? And above all authority and the Holy Eucharist?

Seems to be not only non Dem. but non-existamt!

 

[novusCatholic]

As a non-denominational Christian, I believe that Christ’s Church was not meant to be of a particular Christian denomination (The Roman Catholic Church/The Orthodox Christian Church.) but, simply a Christian Church with many different denominational Christians/non-denominational Christians/Messianic Jews all united by their belief in Jesus Christ.

In the OT, there was a pretty strict set of laws and rules for God’s people. Discipline and unity mattered.

In the NT, the Apostles kept a pretty tight leash on the various communities that were being established. When a community began to drift away from their teachings, they brought them back in line. It was ONE Church. One set of beliefs, one faith, one baptism, etc.

What’s our best chance of getting it right? Going with our own ideas? Following the teachings of a person who has lived in the past 200 - 500 years? Latching onto the attractive ideas of someone who happens to be popular at the moment because his teachings accommodate the leanings of modern society? I say our best chance is to follow the teachings of the original Church that has existed since the time of the Apostles!

Take a look at the writings of the first generations of Christians (the Church Fathers) to see what they believed and how they worshipped. There is a reason why these people believed what they believed. We are 2,000 years removed, but some of these guys learned directly from the Apostles or from their disciples. When you learn what they believed, you will see that those beliefs match up with what the Catholic Church has always taught.

There is only one truth. Everyone can’t be right.

 

[kempo1]

Hi vikingirltbird,
you see i take issue with the fact that the common view of people like my father in law and yourself is that you go out and try all these different churches and see what fits your discription of what a church should be. Do you see the error in this? It should not be this way.that is one of the big problems caused by the reformation is that people began to interpret scripture and church doctrine in there own personal way which leads to all this confusion for todays christian. As a Catholuc christian i know and trust the judgement of the church and its leaders because i know that they have an unbroken line of training in Holy scripture and church doctrine that goes all the way back to the apostles. That is why it is so easy to be Catholic and keep coming back for more. Its that quite confidence that i have knowing i will not be led astray by some weird doctrine or a renegade preacher. We have 2000 years of church history. Knowing i dont have to look anywhere else well there is a peace about it that i cant explain, you would have to experience it. I my self left and explored different churhes, got all confused by all the different beliefs, but i started studying and praise God i came back HOME TO ROME!!! thanks for your reply and God bless

 

[zz912]

1. I believe that God, especially Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, The Twelve Apostles, and Early Christians did created and established Christ’s Church on earth so that all of humanity can be united as Christians/Christian Brothers and Sisters/“Adopted” Children of God.

Yes, Jesus did build His Church on St. Peter, the Rock. And that Church has ONE Baptism, ONE Faith, ONE Hope, ONE Lord, ONE Spirit. The Church is ONE. With ONE Faith.

As a non-denominational Christian, I believe that Christ’s Church was not meant to be of a particular Christian denomination (The Roman Catholic Church/The Orthodox Christian Church.) but, simply a Christian Church with many different denominational Christians/non-denominational Christians/Messianic Jews all united by their belief in Jesus Christ.

And yet you should re-read the NT. The Apostles were quick to bring wayward believers back into line when they started to stray from the ONE Faith. There was a hierarchy that had authority to preach and teach, and importantly, to CORRECT those who were wrong.

But, if Jesus Christ did indeed created and established “one true original.” Church (Christ’s Church.) that he wanted all Christians to be apart of, I don’t think we will ever come close to proving that he did because of all these different kinds of historical/archaelogical/religious/sciencetific evidence/theories/interpretations/etc.

I’m sorry, but this is a bunch of nonsense. We have MANY of the writing of the first Christians, even those who learned the faith DIRECTLY from the Apostles. Read their writings and see if your version of Christianity matches up with theirs. Try starting with the Didache, it’s not too long and should give you some insight. It was written in the 40-50’s AD as one of the very first instruction manuals to teach Christians how to worship.

Even if we did one day found out/proven (Which I extremely highly doubt it.) that he indeed did what I just said above, that there would still be many different Christians/Non-Christians who would say that they simply do not understand, believe in, agree with, and etc about what we had just proven/found out about “Christ’s true/original Church.” that no matter how hard we all try to convince them all of the truth…that they would never probully believe the truth no matter what happens.

We can’t force people to accept the Truth. All we can do is present Him to them, and let the Holy Spirit do the work. But it is not our job to deny them the Truth because they “probably” wouldn’t believe.