What is Quran?

[saharali1991]

What is Quran?

Quran is the true word of God that He revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to be guidance for the whole mankind till the Last Day. Those who begin learning the Noble Quran should receive its verses as if they hear them directly from Allah, and they should abide to the commands they learn. So, Quran is not only a heavenly book we should learn, but it is basically a book of law and a complete and adequate constitution for whole Muslims learn quran with tajweed .
my site
alazharquranteaching.com

 

[EveningSkye111]

What is “mulsm?”

 

[PseuTonym]

What is Quran?

Quran is the true word of God that He revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him)

Did God dictate the words to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him), or did God reveal the ideas and allow the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to select the words?

 

[Vico]

What is “mulsm?”

I think the poster means Muslim.

The sources of the Koran (substantially the work of Mohammed) can be reduced to six:

1. 
   *]The Old Testament (canonical and apocryphal) and the hybrid Judaism of the late rabbinical schools.
   *]The New Testament (canonical and apocryphal) and various heretical (to Christianity) doctrines.
   *]Sabaism, a combination of Judaism, Manicheism, and Babylonian.
   *]Zoroastrianism.
   *]Hanifism (twelve of Mohammed’s followers were members of this sect).
   *]Native ancient and contemporary Arabian beliefs and practices.
   
   Oussani, G. (1910). Koran. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. newadvent.org/cathen/08692a.htm

 

[SalamKhan]

Did God dictate the words to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him), or did God reveal the ideas and allow the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to select the words?

Surah Najm, verses 2-4:

“Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred.
Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.
It is not but a revelation revealed”

We believe the Prophet (S) did not speak from his own desire, but from Divine inspiration. It is impossible for the Prophets (A) to speak from their own desires. The proof of this is that truthfulness is necessary for them, and lying is impossible. One proof that lying is impossible for the Prophets (A) is that if it were possible, then it is possible for their claim to Prophethood to be false; and there will be no certainty in their claims. To assert that the Prophets (A) can speak of their own desires, would admit the possibility of them lying due to their human nature. Therefore, it is impossible for the Prophets (A) to speak from their own desires.

This being the case, it is obvious that the Prophet (S) did not only utter Al Furqan (Qur’an) when he spoke, and by extension it should be obvious that the Sahaba would place great importance to the words of the Prophet (S) outside of Al Furqan, otherwise why would they place great importance on Al Furqan and not anything else the Prophet (S) said when everything the Prophet (S) said was from Divine inspiration? This is the proof for Hadith.

May Allah guide all of us to the straight path, and may He protect us from misguidance. And May Allah raise the rank and honour of His beloved Prophet and Messenger, Muhammad (S), and may He grant peace and blessings upon the Family, Companions and Wives of the Prophet (S).

 

[Lenten_ashes]

What is Quran?

Quran is the true word of God that He revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to be guidance for the whole mankind till the Last Day. Those who begin learning the Noble Quran should receive its verses as if they hear them directly from Allah, and they should abide to the commands they learn. So, Quran is not only a heavenly book we should learn, but it is basically a book of law and a complete and adequate constitution for whole Muslims learn quran with tajweed .
my site
alazharquranteaching.com

Hi saharali.

Yes, we know Muslims believe the Koran is the word of Allah.

Christians believe it is not inspired. It is not compatible with Christian theology.

Thanks.

 

[ClearWater]

Hi saharali.

Yes, we know Muslims believe the Koran is the word of Allah.

Christians believe it is not inspired. It is not compatible with Christian theology.

Thanks.

That’s right.

 

[PseuTonym]

everything the Prophet (S) said was from Divine inspiration.] This is the proof for Hadith.

George H. W. Bush is quoted as having said the following:

“I do not like broccoli. And I haven’t liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I’m President of the United States and I’m not going to eat any more broccoli.”

Did the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) ever say anything like that?

Did the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) shop for his own food, and personally cook the food that he would eat? Or did he always say something like “surprise me”, and let others choose what foods would be prepared for him?

 

[SalamKhan]

George H. W. Bush is quoted as having said the following:

“I do not like broccoli. And I haven’t liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I’m President of the United States and I’m not going to eat any more broccoli.”

Did the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) ever say anything like that?

Did the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) shop for his own food, and personally cook the food that he would eat? Or did he always say something like “surprise me”, and let others choose what foods would be prepared for him?

It’s an odd question, judging from your posts you appear to be atheist. If so, maybe you should have that displayed that as your ‘religion’ to avoid giving people the false impression that you’re actually interested in theology.

No, the Prophet (S) did not complain about the food he ate.

 

[PseuTonym]

judging from your posts

Did you already read the following posts?

From Pontius Pilate to Ignaz Semmelweis: a Brief History of Clean Hands
Pontius Pilate washed his own hands. Eventually, Ignaz Semmelweis arrived and taught that washing the hands can have BOTH a symbolic meaning AND direct, practical significance. So the Bible critic’s question, “Figurative or literal?” can commit the logical fallacy known as “false dilemma.”

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13892895&postcount=5

If you want to know whether or not your arguments are sound, then you need to look for flaws in them. One cannot even proofread a document for trivial typographical errors unless one looks for errors. You cannot attempt to revise an argument and remove a flaw until after you are aware that the flaw exists.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=12629100&postcount=179

(In response to the following:
“Why should we waste any more time on such trivialities?”)
Perhaps that was a rhetorical question, but I’m thinking that I might be able to provide at least the beginning of an answer.

1. The less knowledge required, the greater the number of people who can understand and participate in the discussion.
2. If I provide a very clear and simple counter-example to a claim (and I mean clear and simple ideas, not attitudes), then it doesn’t merely serve to gain approval from people who are on “my side” in a debate, but has a chance of actually influencing the beliefs of my opponent in the debate.
3. Should I continue, or are two reasons enough?
   forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=14339701&postcount=373

No, the Prophet (S) did not complain about the food he ate.

I apologize for providing an example that seems to have created a misunderstanding. I didn’t intend to ask specifically about complaints. I intended to ask whether or not he said anything about food, not abstract generalizations about food, but ordinary comments and requests that are appropriate when interacting with people, such as “Could I have more chick peas, please? They were delicious, and I’m still hungry.”

If everything that he said was from Divine inspiration, then all such utterances – if the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) actually spoke like that on occasion – were from Divine inspiration.

 

[SalamKhan]

Did you already read the following posts?

If everything that he said was from Divine inspiration, then all such utterances – if the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) actually spoke like that on occasion – were from Divine inspiration.

No.

There were occasions when food was little, and the Prophet (S) miraculously fed multitudes with little, not just himself.

 

[Elena321]

I personally believe it is a good thing for people of different religions to discuss their faiths.
There are people of good will in every religion (and agnostics etc too).
I am a Catholic partly because of cultural reasons-Ie:being born to a Catholic family and predominantly Catholic nationality-and also partly due to seeing the greatness in Jesus Christ’s teachings.

One thing I don’t understand (and I hope this doesn’t offend) about the Islamic religion is the acceptance of more than one wife for a man.
I can understand there may have been a need for this in historical times when Muhammad was alive as women were made widows due to wars factor etc and likely didn’t have the capacity to fend/provide for themselves so this would have been a practical solution.
However,I can see no rational for the allowance of more than one wife in these modern times.

None of the reasons that I have heard some Muslims give are acceptable and they have not provided adequate reasoning.
Some have tried to state that men naturally have a stronger “base needs” or sex drive than women or are naturally more immoral so should be granted with option of having more than one wife.
This “argument” to me holds no weight and I don’t believe as true.
Others have stated that if a man wants more than one wife he must be able to provide for them equally-financially,emotionally,physically but why would a man be allowed this in Islam and not a woman?

Jesus said that one husband should have one wife and one wife should have one husband.
That neither should have more and he didn’t show partiality to the persons gender.

Christianity has sometimes its problems too but it seems to be to be more fairer to women than Islam.

I’m aware that Islam has some fairness to women by allowing women to own land etc but to have one set of rules for how many men can marry and a different set of rules for how many women can marry seems wrong to do.

 

[Vico]

Hi saharali.

Yes, we know Muslims believe the Koran is the word of Allah.

Christians believe it is not inspired. It is not compatible with Christian theology.

Thanks.

Not compatible, particularly because Islam denies:

• The Most Holy Trinity (One God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)
• Original Sin
• Divine Incarnation (the Son assumed a human nature)
• Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ
• That justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ

 

[PseuTonym]

There were occasions when food was little, and the Prophet (S) miraculously fed multitudes with little, not just himself.

First, it seems appropriate to draw attention to the fact that we are discussing utterances of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), rather than food. Food was merely an example that I selected, but my focus was on your claim about the spoken words of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

That now allows a transition to the following question: did the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) speak aloud prayers that were answered by God with miracles of food to feed multitudes? One alternative, suggested to me by your actual wording “the Prophet (S) miraculously fed multitudes with little, not just himself” is that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had a paranormal power to directly cause miracles to occur, without relying upon prayer, and without relying upon God.

Could you please tell me what “the Prophet (S)” means? I would communicate using your terminology, but I cannot in good faith copy the words that you are using unless I have an explanation of what they mean. My goal isn’t to influence others to adopt my attitudes. My goal is to communicate as clearly as possible and understand ideas.

 

[Vonsalza]

What is Quran?

Quran is the true word of God that He revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to be guidance for the whole mankind till the Last Day. Those who begin learning the Noble Quran should receive its verses as if they hear them directly from Allah, and they should abide to the commands they learn. So, Quran is not only a heavenly book we should learn, but it is basically a book of law and a complete and adequate constitution for whole Muslims learn quran with tajweed .
my site
alazharquranteaching.com

Directly from Allah? Isn’t it true that Muhammad never wrote it down? I understood it was written down by his companions after his death. If that’s true, then the Quran is the word of Allah as remembered by Muhammad’s friends, as spoken by Muhammad, as remembered from his middle-age.

Additionally, why did we need the Quran if Allah spoke through other men in earlier times? If their teachings became corrupted, then why can’t the same have happened to the Quran?

Finally, if the Quran is only properly studied in Arabic, what was the language of God for the four-thousand years-or-so of written human history before that vernacular of Arabic even existed?

 

[Athanasiy]

What is Quran?

Quran is the true word of God that He revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) to be guidance for the whole mankind till the Last Day. Those who begin learning the Noble Quran should receive its verses as if they hear them directly from Allah, and they should abide to the commands they learn. So, Quran is not only a heavenly book we should learn, but it is basically a book of law and a complete and adequate constitution for whole Muslims learn quran with tajweed .
my site
alazharquranteaching.com

In different Muslim countries, the Koran is used in its own way. There is a difference between Islam in the former communist republics, аnd its more stringent versions that we see, for example, in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Islam can exist, for example, in the form in which it exists in Bashkiria or Tatarstan?
or do you think the application of the Koran allowing co-existence of other religious denominations is not acceptable?

 

[BoomBoomMancini]

No.

There were occasions when food was little, and the Prophet (S) miraculously fed multitudes with little, not just himself.

I think what he’s asking is this: Was everything Muhammad said divine revelation? Even very mundane statements like, “Please pass the salt.” or “It’s late, I’m going to bed”? Or only those statements that relate to theology/morality?

 

[Marie5890]

(looks like a “post and run” sort of OP, to me. It doesn’t look like they have been back)

 

[PseuTonym]

I think what he’s asking is this: Was everything Muhammad said divine revelation? Even very mundane statements like, “Please pass the salt.” or “It’s late, I’m going to bed”? Or only those statements that relate to theology/morality?

Thank you for the effort.

Your specific example “Please pass the salt” is interesting. It raises the question of the cost of salt from ancient Rome to the emergence of Islam. When the word “salary” referred to money paid to soldiers so that they could buy salt, I presume that each individual soldier safeguarded his own money and his own salt. After all, nobody at a dinner table would say, “Please pass the bag of gold coins.” There would be no shared bag of gold coins that people help themselves to in whatever quantity desired.

 

[SalamKhan]

First, it seems appropriate to draw attention to the fact that we are discussing utterances of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), rather than food. Food was merely an example that I selected, but my focus was on your claim about the spoken words of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

That now allows a transition to the following question: did the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) speak aloud prayers that were answered by God with miracles of food to feed multitudes? One alternative, suggested to me by your actual wording “the Prophet (S) miraculously fed multitudes with little, not just himself” is that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had a paranormal power to directly cause miracles to occur, without relying upon prayer, and without relying upon God.

Could you please tell me what “the Prophet (S)” means? I would communicate using your terminology, but I cannot in good faith copy the words that you are using unless I have an explanation of what they mean. My goal isn’t to influence others to adopt my attitudes. My goal is to communicate as clearly as possible and understand ideas.

No, that is blasphemous. Nothing, good or bad, occurs without the Will of Allah. The Prophet (S) does not possess power within himself to create such miracles. No one, possesses power within themselves to create any of their own actions; our power is derivative.

(S) means ‘ṣallā Allāhu ʿalayhi wa- ala ālihi wa-sallam’, translated “blessings of God be upon him and his family and peace”.