What is space?

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Space is simply extra degrees of freedom for movement of Mind state within Mind. It is simply an illusion since we are minds intertwined to each other like a dot surrounded by nothingness.
 
Space is simply extra degrees of freedom for movement of Mind state within Mind. It is simply an illusion since we are minds intertwined to each other like a dot surrounded by nothingness.
Have you informed NASA of this.
 
Immanial Kant is dead and buried and so is his world of illusion. Apparantly some people haven’t heard!

Linus2nd
 
Immanial Kant is dead and buried and so is his world of illusion. Apparantly some people haven’t heard!

Linus2nd
Rockford is so behind the times the world could end today and it would take 20 years for Rockford to catch up!😃
 
Space is simply extra degrees of freedom for movement of Mind state within Mind. It is simply an illusion since we are minds intertwined to each other like a dot surrounded by nothingness.
I’m not buying that…

… but I am curious how you came to make this statement.
 
Space is simply extra degrees of freedom for movement of Mind state within Mind. It is simply an illusion since we are minds intertwined to each other like a dot surrounded by nothingness.
How is a “dot surrounded by nothingness” like “minds intertwined”?🤷
 
From Merriam-Webster:
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/space
Full Definition of SPACE
1: a period of time; also : its duration
1: a period of time; also : its duration
2a : a limited extent in one, two, or three dimensions : distance, area, volume
b : an extent set apart or available
c : the distance from other people or things that a person needs in order to remain comfortable
3 : one of the degrees between or above or below the lines of a musical staff — compare line
4a : a boundless three-dimensional extent in which objects and events occur and have relative position and direction
b : physical space independent of what occupies it —called also absolute space
5: the region beyond the earth’s atmosphere or beyond the solar system
6a : a blank area separating words or lines
b : material used to produce such blank area; especially : a piece of type less than one en in width
7 : a set of mathematical elements and especially of abstractions of all the points on a line, in a plane, or in physical space; especially : a set of mathematical entities with a set of axioms of geometric character — compare metric space, topological space, vector space
8a : linage
b : broadcast time available especially to advertisers
9: accommodations on a public vehicle
10a : the opportunity to assert or experience one’s identity or needs freely
b : an opportunity for privacy or time to oneself
 
How is a “dot surrounded by nothingness” like “minds intertwined”?🤷
First we have to accept that mind has no volume like a dot. Mind is a dot but has forms inside and it is singular. To understand, let me give you an example, assume that you have a piece of paper with a painting on it, the paper is mind and painting is state of mind as you could erase and paint different thing on it. Now crumple the piece of paper as much as you could to simple ball. The ball is mind in real form, of course the state of mind has very different form from normal, but that is what is understandable for mind.

We are intertwined since in the previous example the painting could represent a person walking so act of walking with another person who has a mind is represented as a state of Mind so the second person could experience it. Without Mind we couldn’t experience anything. Now think of whole beings, namely minds and mind which intertwined to each other, within minds decide and do things and Mind adopt itself to changes. Just put all minds and Mind on a dot which is a possibility since they don’t occupy any volume so you get the picture. There is no inside and outside for this mixture and what is left outside is absolute nothingness.
 
If you shut out reality, you are left with zero. That is why Kant is passe in the world of philosophy. Of course there are always those who didn’t get the word.

Linus2nd
I didn’t get the memo. But of course I never heard of Kant so I really “Kant” comment.🤷😃
I have a Bachelor degree so would that be 1 degree above zero?:rolleyes:
 
Of course, ‘space’, by definition, does not exist. Nothing does not exist. Space is nothing. If it is not nothing, it is not space. And if space does not exist, neither is matter possible, since there is no possible location for it. Therefore nothing exists. Except God, who is All, in whom there is not shadow of change.

Now, as for the proposition is that it is a form of freedom of mind, yes that is true. The mind imagining movement, or changing orientations of ‘objects’, which are in reality nothing but states of mind.

But in reality, mind itself is also nothing. “Past mind cannot be held, present mind cannot be retained and future mind cannot be grasped.”- Diamond Sutra.

“Truly, the mind is like space; it ‘seems’ to face in all directions; it ‘seems’ to transcend everything, it ‘seems’ to be in everything. But in reality, the mind does not exist.”- Avadhatu Gita, I-9
 
If you shut out reality, you are left with zero. That is why Kant is passe in the world of philosophy. Of course there are always those who didn’t get the word.

Linus2nd
Yes, but there are also some who care nothing for fashion and trends. Kant, I suspect, could not care less. After all, the ‘world of philosophy’ (and any other world, for that matter) is only a phenomenon.

God, ‘I AM’, alone is noumena.

Therefore, all things which we perceive can safely be dismissed as mere phenomena.
 
Of course, ‘space’, by definition, does not exist. Nothing does not exist. Space is nothing. If it is not nothing, it is not space. And if space does not exist, neither is matter possible, since there is no possible location for it. Therefore nothing exists. Except God, who is All, in whom there is not shadow of change.
Space is degree of freedom within Mind/mind.
Now, as for the proposition is that it is a form of freedom of mind, yes that is true. The mind imagining movement, or changing orientations of ‘objects’, which are in reality nothing but states of mind.
It is not only freedom of mind which true, mind itself is true too.
But in reality, mind itself is also nothing. “Past mind cannot be held, present mind cannot be retained and future mind cannot be grasped.”- Diamond Sutra.
Mind is something, without that we couldn’t experience anything.
“Truly, the mind is like space; it ‘seems’ to face in all directions; it ‘seems’ to transcend everything, it ‘seems’ to be in everything. But in reality, the mind does not exist.”- Avadhatu Gita, I-9
Mind is not like space, space is degree freedom within mind.
 
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