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The spirit is being defined with revelation. My question is that: If some does not accept spirit hence what is to be instead of spirit?
Consciousness.The spirit is being defined with revelation. My question is that: If some does not accept spirit hence what is to be instead of spirit?
What is that “Consciousness”? What is that consist of? Can you exposition?Consciousness.
Consciousness is the essence of any being with the ability to experience and affect. It doesn’t consist of anything.What is that “Consciousness”? What is that consist of? Can you exposition?
If that is so what is source of consciousness?Consciousness is the essence of any being with the ability to experience and affect. It doesn’t consist of anything.
Everything is the result of consciousness and not vice versa.If that is so what is source of consciousness?
Why do you say everything is the result of consciousness but do not give any annonated knowledge. Forexample you can say that the consciousness is result of energy or magnetic field or wave etc?Everything is the result of consciousness and not vice versa.
No, everything is manifestation of act of consciousness.Why do you say everything is the result of consciousness but do not give any annonated knowledge. Forexample you can say that the consciousness is result of energy or magnetic field or wave etc?
But yet you have not given any information about consciousness! Does that come from God or nature?No, everything is manifestation of act of consciousness.
Yes spirit is a breath, law from God. Could you explain further! Or could you give some proofs for soul because some think that the source of morality and senses and life is not spirit but something else like energy. Bahman claims the source is the consciousness but he does not give any information.The Latin word root for spirit-- and its equivalents in Greek and Hebrew – mean breath.
Spirit can be understood as a breath from God.
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That is a good illustration. The consciousness is morality so the source of it cannot be the brain which is consist of matter and work with energy.For me, spirit is from God and is analogous to the airwaves that brings about the picture and sound of a television. Based on this analogy, God’s spirit is responsible for all consciousness. I believe it’s a big mistake to assume that consciousness is brought about by the brain, similar to how absurd it would be to believe that the picture and sound of a television are somehow produced by the television itself.
That sounds like Buddhism. But how can there be consciousness with something which is conscious?No, everything is manifestation of act of consciousness.
Consciousness is the essence of any being and it grants the ability to experience and create. It is very simple and it is primary.That sounds like Buddhism. But how can there be consciousness with something which is conscious?
You might be thinking of the creation of Adam and Eve when God said, " Let us make man in our image and likeness. " And then God " …breathed life into them. " In this context " spirit " means " soul " of principle of life.The spirit is being defined with revelation. My question is that: If some does not accept spirit hence what is to be instead of spirit?
You stated well. But the part whic I underlined (nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit) is a bit uncertain. Because we cannot comprehend nature of God. And "spirit moving over waters " refers to not God but to some which God created(Jesus or an Angel). Anyway we cannot associate nature of God with anything. God create spirit but God is not a spirit. Because in one context spirit is principle or law but God is not a law! God create laws.You might be thinking of the creation of Adam and Eve when God said, " Let us make man in our image and likeness. " And then God " …breathed life into them. " In this context " spirit " means " soul " of principle of life.
On the other hand, when Genesis speaks of the " Spirit " moving over the waters, it is refering to God creating the waters. God is a spirit, a living spirit…
But throughout the Scriptures, Old and New, " spirit " refers to an immaterial, living soul. The human soul is immaterial and living and the nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit… And an angel is a living, immaterial spirit or soul. We don’t usually refer to God as a soul, but we could.
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The word spirit comes from Latin spiritus, breath.Yes spirit is a breath, law from God. Could you explain further! Or could you give some proofs for soul because some think that the source of morality and senses and life is not spirit but something else like energy. Bahman claims the source is the consciousness but he does not give any information.
I think your best Islamic philosophers would agree with me. Of course we cannot know God as he actually is in himself. But we can know something true about him from the things he has made. In the Scriptures he is definitely known as a Spirit. As for interpreting the " spirit moving over the waters, " we have to say that that Spirit is God because we are talking about creation and only God can create. We can call God pure, self sufficient Existence, Being, Spirit. At least Thomas Aquinas doesn’t see anything wrong with it.You stated well. But the part whic I underlined (nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit) is a bit uncertain. Because we cannot comprehend nature of God. And "spirit moving over waters " refers to not God but to some which God created(Jesus or an Angel). Anyway we cannot associate nature of God with anything. God create spirit but God is not a spirit. Because in one context spirit is principle or law but God is not a law! God create laws.
We do not need to learn and comprehend the nature of God but we need to find and know God.