What is Spirit?

[ynotzap]

The spirit is being defined with revelation. My question is that: If some does not accept spirit hence what is to be instead of spirit?

Spirit,is something that is understood but not sensed, it is not of material substance, not having any dimension. When referring to knowledge we are speaking of a spiritual reality, knowledge is not sensed, although acquired through the senses by a spiritual faculty of the soul called intelligence. The soul of man is spiritual in nature, real, existing, but not physical. There is the unseen, and un-sensed world that can only be understood by the spiritual intelligence of man. A good illustration is to compare “breadth” which is real (but physical) and not seen (excluding signs of vapor) to a spiritual substance, the idea that it is not seen but real. Spiritual beings have natures, and existence. They can even affect physical things, and are superior to physical things because they possess intelligence and wills, all spiritual faculties, they possess a high degree of understanding by their nature for they intuit knowledge from God. We have to rationalize because we are united to matter, our bodies which impede our understanding and knowledge, the human brain is limited in it’s functions, thus limiting the intellects activity, we experience physical fatigue, The order experienced in the world is the effect of a spiritual being, God. By a spiritual faculty we come to understand the existence of God by understanding the effects observed in His creation, all a spiritual reality.

 

[GaryTaylor]

You stated well. But the part whic I underlined (nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit) is a bit uncertain. Because we cannot comprehend nature of God. And "spirit moving over waters " refers to not God but to some which God created(Jesus or an Angel). Anyway we cannot associate nature of God with anything. God create spirit but God is not a spirit. Because in one context spirit is principle or law but God is not a law! God create laws.

We do not need to learn and comprehend the nature of God but we need to find and know God.

Alright so we have consciousness, we have your understanding energy etc and we have the Word breathed-intellect.

We have a conceptual reality no different than love.

 

[ynotzap]

You stated well. But the part whic I underlined (nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit) is a bit uncertain. Because we cannot comprehend nature of God. And "spirit moving over waters " refers to not God but to some which God created(Jesus or an Angel). Anyway we cannot associate nature of God with anything. God create spirit but God is not a spirit. Because in one context spirit is principle or law but God is not a law! God create laws.

We do not need to learn and comprehend the nature of God but we need to find and know God.

We can comprehend somethings about God. He is Pure Spirit, He is the “IAm Who Am” He is Existence, and give existence to all things. In Isaiah 3l:3 " The Egyptians are men not God, their horses are flesh not spirit." Isaiah makes a distinction between between men and God, between flesh and spirit. John 4:24 “God is Spirit, and those that worship Him, worship Him in spirit and truth.” John 6, 63. “It is the Spirit that gives life to the flesh.”
I know that Islam does not believe in the Holy Trinity, The Father, the Son(Jesus),and the Holy Spirit are all one God. And because of this Mystery confusion reigns in Islam. that’s why it is called a “Heresy” This doesn’t mean all Islam belief is wrong, but this a major obstacle to the truth.

How can you find Him, when you deny Him, in Jesus Christ? And how can you love Him when you do not recognize Him, God-man who walked among us. To know Him is to love Him, and to love each other. We are part spirit because we have an immortal, spiritual soul tlhat can not be destroyed by matter, the soul because it is spirit gives life to the body. When the body can not sustain the activity of the soul, it departs into the world of God, a spiritual world. Actually all existing things, the material world and spiritual world are God’s. At the Resurrection our bodies will be spiritualized like the body of Jesus, at His Resurrection. The Spirit moving over the waters, is the Creator Spirit, the Holy Spirit. A simple way to look at this is to imagine: The Father is the Administrator, The Son is the Legislator, and the Holy Spirit is the Executor, and they are One God. Law is of the mind, it exists in thought, and thought is spirit, you can not sense it, but know it. Knowing is a spiritual activity of the soul. God is truth, and knowledge, and love.

 

[ynotzap]

You stated well. But the part whic I underlined (nature of God is a living, immaterial Spirit) is a bit uncertain. Because we cannot comprehend nature of God. And "spirit moving over waters " refers to not God but to some which God created(Jesus or an Angel). Anyway we cannot associate nature of God with anything. God create spirit but God is not a spirit. Because in one context spirit is principle or law but God is not a law! God create laws.

We do not need to learn and comprehend the nature of God but we need to find and know God.

If you do not comprehend the nature of God, how can you know He is not Spirit? How can '“spirit moving over waters” create land and sky, and water if not God, even an Angel can not bring something into existence. Jesus can give life. Only God can give life. Only God can forgive sins, Jesus said “Your sins are forgiven” Even if you only regarded Jesus as a great Prophet, and a prophet is the “Mouth piece of God, and can not lie, if chosen by God” and the Pharasees said “…see, what more excuse do we need, He makes Himself God” when Jesus said “…before Moses came to be I am.” When Moses approached the Burning Bush, he asked God. “What shall I call you, God replied " I Am Who Am” God would not expect you to love Him if you do not know anything about Him, and especially if He became man and died for you that you might have eternal life with Him. Islam is confused. and I know who is responsible for the confusion. But that is something you will have to discover for yourself. The New Testament is the Fulfillment of the Old Testament, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, is the same God that St.Paul experienced on the road to Damascus. He made the same mistake that Islam is making. If you are sure Islam is the truth, than there is no danger from investigating further to understand the difference between Islam, and Christianity. You will either be “enlightened, or confirmed in your own beliefs”

 

[GaryTaylor]

That is a good illustration. The consciousness is morality so the source of it cannot be the brain which is consist of matter and work with energy.

Alight. in the Quran God said “be” and it was? Would you say thats conscious intelligence? Consciousness is a field of one’s awareness, it discerns and gives consent to conceptual realities not of ourselves created, like love and morality which are universal.

God is pure spirit as suggested? Or the word spirit is causing the disturbance?

 

[GaryTaylor]

Why do you say everything is the result of consciousness but do not give any annonated knowledge. Forexample you can say that the consciousness is result of energy or magnetic field or wave etc?

This is a result of consciousness. You understand these theories from a physics-electrical perspective I want to speak to you. Let me ask you a simple question, what is the source of the energy which creates the electromagnetic field and the frequency?

 

[ynotzap]

hasantas:

Do Muslims have a relationship with Allah? Do they experience His presence in their lives, I don’t mean just believe in His presence. I mean discern His presence. Christians do have encounters with Jesus Christ, God-man. This constitutes conversion, the encounter produces a new way of life one that is centered on Jesus, who by His Holy Spirit bestows on man his graces, supernatural gifts, and virtue, spiritual powers. Does your Allah have that kind of relationship with Muslims? Do Muslims experience a growth of deep love for Allah because they can experience being identified with Him in their life, and how He truly loves them, and cares for them, even in great tragedy. Can you ask Him for this personal encounter and he answers? I know of a Muslim who had, he was about to take his own life because he thought that he failed Allah he received no answer from Allah, at the moment when he put the gun to his head, he had an Encounter with Jesus, who identified Himself with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, and all that is in between. His whole life was changed, and now he evangelizes his brother Muslims. His life was even threatened. But with the Spirit God gave him in Jesus, he continues to spread the “Good News”