What is the book? And who is this person?

[Seek_Truth]

Who is Jesus reffering to in the book of Isaiah, Chapter 29 Verse 12?

Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

 

[mdrummer5]

Who is Jesus reffering to in the book of Isaiah, Chapter 29 Verse 12?

Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

I’m not an expert but you really need to read the quote in context. Jesus didn’t say that, Isaiah is one of the prophets who spoke of Jesus and the book is a metaphor, I don’t believe it’s referring to a specific person.

 

[Seek_Truth]

So it’s Isaiah who says this right?

 

[Seek_Truth]

I’m not an expert but you really need to read the quote in context. Jesus didn’t say that, Isaiah is one of the prophets who spoke of Jesus and the book is a metaphor, I don’t believe it’s referring to a specific person.

What do you think it’s referring to

 

[jakasaki]

11
**For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll.

And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say to him, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I can’t; it is sealed.” **

12
**Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, “Read this, please,” he will answer, “I don’t know how to read.” **

If you read 11 & 12 the verse(s) make sense.

 

[Barbkw]

Who is Jesus reffering to in the book of Isaiah, Chapter 29 Verse 12? Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

For footnote and introduction information on the Chapter see:

usccb.org/nab/bible/isaiah/intro.htm

usccb.org/nab/bible/isaiah/isaiah29.htm

4 [9-12] Jerusalem in her blindness refuses to believe God’s revelation that she will be saved.

Be irresolute, stupefied; blind yourselves and stay blind! Be drunk, but not from wine, stagger, but not from strong drink!

For the LORD has poured out on you a spirit of deep sleep. He has shut your eyes (the prophets) and covered your heads (the seers).

For you the revelation of all this has become like the words of a sealed scroll. When it is handed to one who can read, with the request, “Read this,” he replies, “I cannot; it is sealed.”

When it is handed to one who cannot read, with the request, “Read this,” he replies, “I cannot read.”

The Lord said: Since this people draws near with words only and honors me with their lips alone, though their hearts are far from me, And their reverence for me has become routine observance of the precepts of men,

Therefore I will again deal with this people in surprising and wondrous fashion: The wisdom of its wise men shall perish and the understanding of its prudent men be hid.

Woe to those who would hide their plans too deep for the LORD! Who work in the dark, saying, “Who sees us, or who knows us?”

Your perversity is as though the potter were taken to be the clay: As though what is made should say of its maker, “He made me not!” Or the vessel should say of the potter, “He does not understand.”

 

[jakasaki]

Who is Jesus reffering to in the book of Isaiah, Chapter 29 Verse 12?

Isaiah 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

Poster:

I know where you are going with this. Muslims like to use 29:12 to refer to mohamad.

As it is claimed that mohamad was in a cave and an “angel” appeared to him asking him to read/recite and he said that he cannot read.

29:12 is not referring to mohamad.

 

[mdrummer5]

What do you think it’s referring to

The links that Barb posted are much more informative than I can be, but when I read it what I get out of it is basically that it’s a metaphor for mankind essentially finding excuses for not accepting God’s word. Verse 11 even says “And the entire vision shall be to you like the words of a sealed book” The fact that it’s phrased in this manner indicates that it is a metaphor so there is no actual book so your first question is not applicable. Again, Barb’s references no doubt come from someone way more educated, but that’s what I get out of it.

 

[Barbkw]

To me personally, that chapter and verse of Isaiah, is found again in at least two other places:

Acts 8:30 -

usccb.org/nab/bible/acts/acts8.htm

Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”

He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?”

So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. This was the scripture passage he was reading: “Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter, and as a lamb before its shearer is silent, so he opened not his mouth. In (his) humiliation justice was denied him. Who will tell of his posterity? For his life is taken from the earth.”

Then the eunuch said to Philip in reply, “I beg you, about whom is the prophet saying this? About himself, or about someone else?”

Then Philip opened his mouth and, beginning with this scripture passage, he proclaimed Jesus to him.

As they traveled along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, “Look, there is water. What is to prevent my being baptized?”

**And in Revelation **(where St. John witnesses the opening of the sealed scrolls).