What is the Capital of Israel aka the Holy Land?

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and has the Vatican taken a stance on this be it Tel Viv or Jerusalem since the Vatican is a recognized state by the United Nations
 
The Knesset and the Prime Minister and the headquarters of the departments of the Israeli government are all in Jerusalem. Not in Tel Aviv or any other city.

Jerusalem is the actual capital, I don’t know if Vatican City has an embassy at all in Israel, or where it is. My understanding is that most countries who have embassies in Israel are in Tel Aviv.
 
Jerusalem is the Holy City, the city around which Our Lord was born, lived, and was crucified. The Church respects the interests of Jews and Muslims in Jerusalem. The modern State of Israel is not a religious issue for Catholics. The UN tried to partition Israel in 1948 into Jewish and Arab states. The Jews agreed but the Arabs declared war. This terror war has continued to this very day. The Jews have always been willing to negotiate peace, but the Arabs refuse. Those who want to make peace, like President Sadat, are murdered. The Vatican, and most of the world, has been bending over backward trying to appease the Muslims for decades now. We need to re-focus our attention on the victims of the terror war, the Christians and Jews.
 
After ripping the land from the inhabitants after World War One, I should hope everyone would bend over backwards for the people of Palestine. I don’t know if “sure, we’ll give you a sliver of your former territory so these refugees that nobody else wants can have a state. And then they’ll slowly start encroaching into that sliver anyway.” doesn’t sound like bending over backwards.
 
After ripping the land from the inhabitants after World War One, I should hope everyone would bend over backwards for the people of Palestine.
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Actually, that isn’t exactly an accurate portrayal of the historical situation. There have been a remnant of Jews in Israel long before both world wars dating back many centuries.
 
Agreed. It’s a complicated issue. But the OPs explanation isn’t exactly accurate either.
 
Do you mean vote?
Bear in mind that the Vatican State has a permanent seat as an observer in the UN.
You may understand better the perspective of their participation in terms of her mission.
It would be useful to read the following so as to better understand how their presence is mutually appreciated and why.
It is interesting.And short.

Here is the link

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=56121#.Wj8xNqVlnqB

“7 February 2017 – Ever since 1964, when it was informally accepted to the United Nations General Assembly, the Holy See has had a permanent seat at international discussions and used its observer status to go on record about matters of peace and human dignity.”
 
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Don’t know and don’t much care. As Catholics, we are the new Israel. Capitol: Heaven.
 
Byt we have to live and interact with other persons on earth. To me, this means we have to take an interest in the affairs of earth. Some of them, at least. Jerusalem has always been a holy city for Christians, Jews, and Muslims.
 
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I assume this question was prompted by the recent controversy, so I will answer it as such. Every country in question has the right to declare which city is their capitol and countries who have diplomatic relations with that country are expected to put their embassy in that city. Diplomatic missions outside the capitol are consulates.

Bill Clinton signed the bill that officially recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel and directed that the embassy be moved there. He didn’t put that law into action and neither did Bush or Obama. Trump is just following both diplomatic tradition and the US law.

Philadelphia was the capitol of the US before DC. But there are no foreign embassies in Philadelphia or any other US city. Other countries respect our capitol and we should respect theirs. The US has embassies in 136 countries. Israel is the only one where the embassy is not in the capitol city.
 
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The Vatican hasn’t issued any big statements and I don’t expect it will since it is primarily interested with peace among Christians, Jews, & Muslims in the Holy Land, which has never been an easy thing. Just next door to Israel, the Pope has been working hard for peace in Egypt. Egypt is the most Christian country among the Arab nations.

Israel is a controversy and will continue to be a controversy. It was created by the British Empire and large numbers of people came into an already inhabited territory. Jerusalem is the 3rd holiest city in Islam behind Mecca and Medina, being the place where many of their prophets taught, including Isa (Jesus), and holds great significance for them. So the Islamic world, and in particular the Arab world, doesn’t have a high opinion of Israel post-1945.

Countries keep their embassies in Tel Aviv to avoid getting involved in the flame of politics that are uniqely related to the Israeli state.

The Holy Father, as the head of state of the Vatican in addition to the Vicar of Christ, has favored a negotiated (two state) solution:

 
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When the Turks owned what is now Israel, nobody called for a Palestinian state in the west bank.
When the Brits owned it, nobody called for a Palestinian state there.
When Jordan owned it, nobody called for a Palestinian state there.
It was only when Jews took it from Jordan that the outcry for a Palestinian state in the west bank arose.

There is a majority Arab Palestinian state in Gaza. Jews can’t live there.
There is a majority Arab Palestinian state in Jordan. Jews can’t own land there.
Other than a desire to oust Jews from the west bank and turn it into an Islamic state where Jews can’t live, what is the reason why the world needs a third Palestinian majority state?

Truth is, there isn’t one.
 
The sad irony is so does the object central to the debates, Palestine.
 
Only the human desire for peoples to occupy and call their own lands that they have occupied for centuries in spite of the powers that sweep over their lands on occasion through the centuries. The American first nations are another example.
 
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Only the human desire for peoples to occupy and call their own lands that they have occupied for centuries in spite of the powers that sweep over their lands on occasion through the centuries.
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There are some blogs where you regularly see Istanbul named as “occupied Constantinople”. The intention is not wholly serious, though. It’s clearly meant as a sarcastic dig at the so-called “occupation” by Israel of territory claimed by the Palestinians.
 
Your comparisons simply don’t follow.

The Ottoman was an imperial power that controlled large swathes of territory. It didn’t take control of Palestine and then inject millions of outside people into a small strip of territory.

Britain was an imperial power that controlled large swathes of territory. It didn’t take control of Palestine and then (until later) inject millions of outside people into a small strip of territory.

Once Britain did what it did, and the state of Israel was formed, that is what happened. It’s not like you’re paying taxes to some distant central government. You literally have cities of people moving into your homeland.

There isn’t historically a “Palestinian nation” since it has always been controlled by imperial powers for centuries, but once defined borders became established and a foreign people & culture arrived in large numbers, that idea was all-but forced among the Muslims who lived there. It was either that or leave the country to a neighboring state that doesn’t necessarily want them… and so they are sent back. They don’t really belong in Israel and they don’t really belong in a neighboring country. So where they belong is ultimately nowhere. Yet you can’t un-move the Israeli nation now that what is done is done.

So the situation is complicated and it has been since 1948. If it had an easy fix, it would have already been fixed. The Vatican has promoted a two state solution and I wouldn’t expect its view to change anytime soon. In reality this likely won’t happen because Israel is a nuclear power and - like Saudi Arabia - enjoys American patronage. Plus a two state solution has limited popularity on both sides.

Will the situation simmer down? Maybe. It will take a long time though, and maybe time won’t even do the trick. If parents consistently raise their children with an adversity towards Israel, then that adversity will live on generation after generation.
 
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