What is the Catholic teaching on 1 Cor. 1:8?

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From the outside looking in, it appears that both sides are saying that a Christian should have faith and good works.

Benny12 seems to be saying, if I understand correctly, that good works are the by-product or “fruit” of faith but not part of it, whereas FHansen and Julius Caesar, as I understand it, contend that good works are a part of the expression of faith and therefore part of the overall faith equation (faith without works is dead).

Scenario:
If a self-identifying Christian who had once publicly “accepted Christ” and dedicated his life to God at an altar call and was once enthusiastic and zealous for God now willfully sins (robbing banks, murder, adultery, etc) and doesn’t repent, Catholics (and others) would say the guy lost his salvation because he sinned seriously and didn’t repent, although God is his final judge.

If he sincerely repents and turns back to God, he is forgiven and can re-establish his relationship with God and the Church. His salvation depends on what he does from that point on.

On the other hand, folks who believe like Benny12 would probably maintain that the guy in question was never truly saved in the first place or else he wouldn’t have strayed so far. In other words, his fruits contradicted his faith declaration.

However, if the person repents and turns back to God, it shows that he is part of the ‘elect’ and that he was predestined to remain in Christ. He just “back slid” for a time because “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”.

Getting close to understanding the positions?
 
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And I’m saying that’s the wrong question. Do WE do the will of the Father?
 
And considering that Jesus lost Judas it’s clear will means desire.
 
Benny12 said:
If you believe they are necessary then you are adding to the sacrifice of Christ for way of salvation.
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We’re just doing whatever He wants. That only upholds and confirms Christ’s sacrifice because without that there’s no reconciliation with God to begin with, no grace available, no way to do His will. We’re simply to follow Jesus in His own willingness to suffer and sacrifice, to do the Father’s will.
 
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Jesus literally said He lost Judas. Give an example where it says he wasn’t saved
 
“I protected those you have Me and not one of them was lost except the one destined to be lost.”

If God gave Judas to Jesus, wasn’t Judas saved?
 
You left out EXCEPT THE ONE DRSTINED TO BE LOST. Jesus lost Judas.
 
Benny12 said:
The Bible says that the one who indwells believers is greater than the one who is in the world.

1 John 4:4 You are of God, my little children, and have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world

According to Paul those who have trusted Christ have been delivered from the possibility of demonic possession.

Ephesians 2:2 in which you once lived, following the course of this world, following the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work among those who are disobedient
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And the Bible also says that those who abandon Jesus will find it impossible to go back.

For it is impossible in the case of those who have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become partakers of the Holy Spirit, tasted the good word of God and the miracles of the coming age, and then have committed apostasy, to renew them again to repentance, since they are crucifying the Son of God for themselves all over again and holding him up to contempt.
Hebrews 6:4‭-‬6 NET

2Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

And the Bible also makes it clear that some will depart in the last days.

*1Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.*KJV
 
Benny12 said:
LOL…makes you wonder why you folks think He built His church on Peter.
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Because He said so.
Anyhow, The context is Peter was not Peter was not setting his mind on the things of God.
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At that moment Peter was fulfilling the devil’s wishes.
Satan didn’t actually enter Peter like he did Judas
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Which says nothing about the fact that Judas was an Apostle of Jesus with a share in His ministry.
 
And Peter and the other Apostles acknowledge the possibility and reality of Christians falling away.

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth.
2 Peter 3:17 NET

 
No. But the person partakes in the Spirit.

You still have yet to address 2nd Peter.
 
And I noticed you still won’t address 2nd Peter.

Peter is playing Satan’s role in the passage.
 
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