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Did any of the Twelve before Pentecost?
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Lol.
Did Judas share in Jesus’s ministry?
The fact that Satan entered into Judas is merely a way of saying that Judas was in league with Satan.
And in the last days as the Bible says many will depart from the faith and teach false doctrines. Aren’t they in league with Satan?
Did Judas share in Jesus’s ministry?
The fact that Satan entered into Judas is merely a way of saying that Judas was in league with Satan.
And in the last days as the Bible says many will depart from the faith and teach false doctrines. Aren’t they in league with Satan?
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Julius_Caesar
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And I showed you what that meant. You proved nothing.I’ll tell you what, I showed you that Satan entered Judas.
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Julius_Caesar
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You think it means Judas was possessed. That’s not what it means.So when scripture says, “Satan entered Judas” it really doesn’t mean Satan entered Judas?
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Julius_Caesar
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Hebrews 10 and the story of Ananias and Sapphira disagree.My point is Judas wasn’t saved because, like the examples I gave, Satan cannot enter Christians
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Julius_Caesar
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Can you give me any evidence that Judas was possessed?
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Over time, gradually fell back into old habits from before he accepted Christ. Hung out with wrong crowd after moving back to the old neighborhood where he didn’t have any Christian friends or mentors. He started out trying to evangelize them but over time, they influenced him instead.guess my first question would be
How does someone who has dedicated his life to God at an altar call and was once enthusiastic and zealous for God now willfully sins (robbing banks, murder, adultery, etc)?
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From Barnes Biblical Commentary
Luke 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas - It is not necessary to suppose that Satan entered personally into the body of Judas, but only that he brought him under his influence; he filled his mind with an evil passion, and led him on to betray his Master. The particular passion of which Satan made use was “avarice” - probably the besetting sin of Judas. To show its exceeding evil and baseness, it is only necessary to say that when it produced its “appropriate” effect in this case, it led to the betraying and crucifixion of the Son of God. We may learn, also, that when Satan “tempts” people, he commonly does it by exciting and raising to the highest pitch their native passions. He does not make them act contrary to their nature, but leads them on to “act out” their proper disposition.
Luke 22:3
Then entered Satan into Judas - It is not necessary to suppose that Satan entered personally into the body of Judas, but only that he brought him under his influence; he filled his mind with an evil passion, and led him on to betray his Master. The particular passion of which Satan made use was “avarice” - probably the besetting sin of Judas. To show its exceeding evil and baseness, it is only necessary to say that when it produced its “appropriate” effect in this case, it led to the betraying and crucifixion of the Son of God. We may learn, also, that when Satan “tempts” people, he commonly does it by exciting and raising to the highest pitch their native passions. He does not make them act contrary to their nature, but leads them on to “act out” their proper disposition.
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I was going to post something here but I’ve changed my mind.
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Julius_Caesar
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Andrew and John did the same thing in John 1.
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Julius_Caesar
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He was one of those in the boat that that called Him Son of God.
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Julius_Caesar
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Here’s the verse.
When they went up into the boat, the wind ceased. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
Matthew 14:32-33 NET
Notice how the text doesn’t say “with the exception of Judas because Judas didn’t believe to begin with.”
When they went up into the boat, the wind ceased. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
Matthew 14:32-33 NET
Notice how the text doesn’t say “with the exception of Judas because Judas didn’t believe to begin with.”
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Julius_Caesar
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That’s called apostasy which happens to true.believers ALL THE TIME.
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Julius_Caesar
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No. It means they abandoned the faith. Check Hebrews 10.
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What’s hilarious about this is that you seem not to read a dictionary.(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
Nowhere in that definition does it say an apostate is a false believer.
Nowhere in that definition does it say an apostate is a false believer.
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I like how you just cut out random verses without context and say you honor Scripture.
Nevertheless you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. I have not written to you that you do not know the truth, but that you do know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. The person who confesses the Son has the Father also.
1 John 2:20-23 NET
John here speaks of fake teachers: people who deny Christ and teach others to do so.
He’s not makong a general statement about appstates or unrepentant persons.
Nevertheless you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know. I have not written to you that you do not know the truth, but that you do know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son. Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. The person who confesses the Son has the Father also.
1 John 2:20-23 NET
John here speaks of fake teachers: people who deny Christ and teach others to do so.
He’s not makong a general statement about appstates or unrepentant persons.
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Julius_Caesar
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It only contradicts you. Nowhere in the Bible does it say an apostate never really believed.
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Julius_Caesar
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Paul baptized everyone in the jailer’s household.
But that’s a whole nother topic. What do you say to 2 Peter and Hebrews that true believers are in danger of falling away?
But that’s a whole nother topic. What do you say to 2 Peter and Hebrews that true believers are in danger of falling away?
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Now Hebrews and 2nd Peter.
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Julius_Caesar
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And the dangers that true believers face.
For if we deliberately keep on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins is left for us, but only a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that will consume God’s enemies . Someone who rejected the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses . How much greater punishment do you think that person deserves who has contempt for the Son of God, and profanes the blood of the covenant that made him holy, and insults the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:26-29 NET
Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the honor both now and on that eternal day.
2 Peter 3:17-18 NET
For if we deliberately keep on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins is left for us, but only a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that will consume God’s enemies . Someone who rejected the law of Moses was put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses . How much greater punishment do you think that person deserves who has contempt for the Son of God, and profanes the blood of the covenant that made him holy, and insults the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:26-29 NET
Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard that you do not get led astray by the error of these unprincipled men and fall from your firm grasp on the truth. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the honor both now and on that eternal day.
2 Peter 3:17-18 NET
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